[GJM] Fw: Reply from Steve Nieman and response from Mary Rose was: Long reply form MR

[mary rose]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Nieman" <stevenieman at mac.com>
To: "Discussion Forum for Global Justice" 
<discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [GJM] Fw: Long reply form MR (was: A Question for Mary Rosefrom 
Robert Searle".)


 Dear Mary,

 Thanks for all the effort and time to write this response.

 I found it mysteriously fascinating.  It was like drinking a
 refreshing elixir.

 Let this list know when you publish your "The Sacred Search for the
 Who of I Am."  I'd love to read it.

 I agree that humankind worldwide is undergoing immense, significant
 change right now.  A lot of it is economic.  But you're right that
 real justice-based change can't happen without people losing
 themselves into Tao-power that surrounds all.

 I can't think of a more barren or dark existence than the meaning of
 Life supposedly being based purely on human reason or rationality, as
 some so-called humanists posit.  Life to me is this magical feeling,
 spirit, that we can feel surrounding us.  Like a powerful force
 field.  It is perhaps best manifested in what we call Love.  Some say
 ultimate reality is an embrace, which I totally agree with.

 Perhaps we are on the threshold of the feminine rejoining the
 masculine, so long absent from the doorstep of our human psyche.  It
 might heal the ego-split in Self that we have experienced for a long
 time.  Antoine de Saint-Exupery's insight is so true:  "It is only
 with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is
 invisible to the eye."

 Regards,
 Steve Nieman

Dear Steve,

Thank you for taking the time to comment on and respond to my post.
It was very heart-warming to read your words: regarding the "feminine
rejoining the masculine".

Of grave concern to me has been the lack of the feminine perspective from
both the FixGov and the Global Justice Movement list.  And I am thankful
for the number of women who participate in my bcc: list and thus contribute
to the Co-Learner's list, so that in posting I am able to forward their 
input
for consideration.

While certainly the monetary system is a very powerful force which drives 
the
rest of our social systems, it is only one part of the whole dynamic. But, 
as
defined by Dr. Jay Earley in Transforming Human Culture, it is the 
suppression
of the feminine through which we gained our "human soul," embedded in the
things mentioned previously (community, natural living, vitality, 
belongingness,
and equality) that has allowed the monetary system to so powerfully prevail 
in
setting the standards of a society. And, if we are to regain balance, then 
does
it not make sense to focus on the restoration of these values as our first 
priority
so that the scales are balanced?

And, then, should the first step in this direction be to continue to focus 
on the
design of  the perfect monetary system, or should the first consideration be 
given
to rebalancing our own minds and opening them to where the problem 
essentially
resides, and then transforming that aspect first.  It does seem that the 
order in
which one attempts to harness the horse and cart can be problematic.

And, in this respect, Robert Searle's "multi-dimensional" approach certainly
has merit, but he too seems fixated on transforming the monetary system 
prior
to addressing the basic masculine-feminine aspect which has so long been 
rooted
in the Adam and Eve mythology and imprinted in our mind via religious orders
which maintain their systems in the form of secret societies.   . .

Thank you again, Stephen for sharing your thoughts and sensitivity for this 
issue.

with love and in gratitude for all that you do and for all that we may do 
together.

mary rose

Steven, btw, is a member of the Global Justice Movement list.  For more on 
this list, please
see:  www.globaljusticemovement.net  Rodney Shakespeare and Peter Challen 
are Co-hosts
of this list, and thave been members of the FixGov list since almost the 
very beginning when I
asked Robert Stimpson, former list moderator, now deceased, to assist in 
starting.it.    .

We must be the change we wish to see in our lives.  M. Gandhi  .

Note:  I am under a deadline to complete a Power Point Presentation
on renewable energy for an Energy Fair and will be offline for most of
today and through the week end.  But will try to check in briefly so as
not to miss out on our dialogues.  .

mary rose


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> On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:41 PM, mary rose wrote:
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "robert searle" <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: <discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:19 AM
>> Subject: [GJM] A Question for Mary Rose.
>>
>>  Dear Mary Rose,
>>
>>          It is all very well coming up with all sorts
>>  of "news" stories about the global problems of our
>>  times....but what is your solution? (snip)
>>
>> Dear Robert,
>>
>> The solution, for me after many years of scientifically-based
>> reseach, is for humanity to evolve itself and learn how to use
>> more of the "brain power" it has been endowed with by itself.
>> You know, Einstein said we can't solve the problems with the
>> same kind of thinking that created them.
>>
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