[GJM] Fw: [MasjidNabwi] Re: [DeepInOurBible] GOSPEL OF pAUL ??/ GJM thread on contradictions in Bible
Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
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Thu Jun 19 23:41:04 MDT 2008
I am sending the mail to all the distinguished members who were interested in finding consistency in Bible..
--- On Thu, 19/6/08, salina salha <guidance4allofyou at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: salina salha <guidance4allofyou at yahoo.com>
Subject: [MasjidNabwi] Re: [DeepInOurBible] GOSPEL OF pAUL ??
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Date: Thursday, 19 June, 2008, 11:09 PM
Even the most skeptical scholars today agree that the vast majority of
> the text attributed to Jesus is in all probability His words. Within
> these words lie the Gospel and the difference between the Bible and
> the Koran.
REPLY :- NO .THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BIBLE AND QURAN IS THAT QURAN TILL TODAY IS IN ACCORDANCE TO JESUS (PBUH)TEACHINGS OF ONE GOD . WHILE BIBLE IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEACHINGS OF PAUL :
THE ACID TEST :-
After Jesus returned to Heaven, the Rich and Powerful Paul claimed to have spoken to Jesus and then added to much of the later part of the GOspel we have today
Although we see from Paul's writings, that he often differs from the Teachings of Moses and Jesus, and seems to have a hidden Motive for adding to the Gospel
Paul said:
"but to others I say, yes, I, not the lord…."(1 corin 7:12)
luke said:
"I resolved also… to WRITE…" (luke 1:1,4)
Paul said:
"now concerning…I have NO command from the lord, but I give MY opinion…" (1 corin 7:25)
Paul said:
" therefore I think…" (I corin 7:26)
Paul said:
"…. According to MY opinion.."(1 corin 7:40)
Paul said:
" I certainly THINK…" (1 corin 7:40)
Paul said:
" see! I, PAUL, am telling you…."(galat 5:2)
'Paul' did not preach according to Christ but instead according to himself and his own opions.
This will help us to distinct from Jesus himself and the man 'Paul'
It is all over the Bible that 'Paul' preached according to his own gospel, and Not the Gospel of Jesus.
For example;
"Remember Jesus Christ, risen from the dead, of the seed of David, according to my gospel:" 2 Timothy 2:8
Did God create 'Paul' from a miraculous birth? Were the Wise men expecting 'Paul', was 'Paul' one of the original disciples? Did 'Paul' ever see Jesus in the Flesh? No No No and No.
Have you ever found it odd that after Jesus spent all that time with His Disciples, his own Brothers and Friends who he Trusted and they grew to understant his mission and Parables, did you find it odd that Jesus would return unexpectedly and speak to 'Paul' and tell 'Paul' to tell everyone that the 'Law of Moses is a Curse'?
As a matter of fact, his purpose for makeing his own Gospel was that he could remove works to convert more gentiles,
'Paul' says;
"What then is my reward? That, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel without charge, so as not to use to the full my right in the gospel." 1 Corinthians 9:18
The current Translations say a "without charge" in Greek it says "adapanos", this word is only used one time in the entire Gospel and could mean "Free from Works"
This Meaning is confirmed in the very next verses that Paul removed the Laws to convert more gentiles;
"For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a slave to all, that I might win the more." 1 Corinthians 9:19
"To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews; to those under the law I became as one under the law--though not being myself under the law--that I might win those under the law. 9:20
"To those outside the law I became as one outside the law--not being without law toward God but under the law of Christ--that I might win those outside the law."
If any one is familiar with the Gospel, they would know there is no such thing as the 'Law of Christ' according to Jesus himself;
"He that loveth me not keepeth not my words: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's who sent me." John 14:24
Jesus Clarifies that the Law is not his, it is God's only, the Only Law is God's Law, and there is no such thing as Christs Law as 'Paul' Admits he does not follow God's Law and Makes up this term 'Christ's Law' which Jesus himself denies.
Pual wrote the Gospel to make it free from the the Law of God as he himself admits he did not follow the Laws of God.
Therefore Paul was makeing a anti-God gospel and used Christ as a scapegoat, God leaves it up to us to recognize the contradictions between 'Paul' and "Jesus"
We see here that Paul was against the Law;
"But now we are Delivered form the Law" (Rom 7:6)
"A man is not justified by works of the Law, but by faith f Jesus Christ" (Gal. 2:16)
"For as many as are of the works of the Law are Under the Curse" (Gal. 3:10)
"In that He said "A new covenant He had mand the first Old. now that which Decayeth and waxeht Old is ready to Vanish Away." (Heb. 8:13)
What does Jesus say about such a man?
"Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:19
'Paul' not only taught men that the commandments are ole, a curse, vanishing, will not deliver, will not justify, etc.., but Also Admits that he himself did not follow the commandments of God but makes up a term called 'commandments of Christ'
Which There are No Such Thing According to Jesus.
To summarize, 'Paul' made a gospel free from works to convert more gentiles in consicuence contradicting Jesus and upseting Jesus's disciples;
"And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise [their] children, neither to walk after the customs." Acts 21:21
Do you think any God loveing Jew would tell people to forsake Moses, but 'Paul' did as the Disciples were complaining because he wanted to convert Gentiles. Did Jesus preach to Forsake the Laws of Moses Or to Keep the Commandments?
Paul admits there is confusion and mystery in the Gospel of Jesus and says that he himself will fill in the blanks;
"And on my behalf, that utterance may be given unto me in opening my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel," Ephesians 6:19
Thus he used his status and wealth to spread his gospel.
'Paul's' inspiration Does Not comes from divine authority
If you consider 'Paul' a Saint, then why does he Admit that the Spirit of Evil is in his body? Also admiting that he is doing Evil and not incontrol of himslef all while writing his gospel.
"If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that [it is] good. Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
"For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but [how] to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do."
"Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me." (Rom 7:16-21
It suprizes me that Christians would take the words of a man who admits he is evil and does not follow the Laws of God and yet, ignore the Teachings of Jesus who was Sent By God.
" DON'T DARE TO BE DIFFERENT JUST DARE TO BE YOURSELF !!"
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