[GJM] Fw: Is God Dead?

[mary rose]

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From: "Nick St Clare" <ecotort at gn.apc.org>
To: <peterchallen at gmail.com>; "Discussion Forum for Global Justice" 
<discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [GJM] Is God Dead?


 If God exists, and there is only ONE God, 'who' is Almighty, All
 Powerful, and All Pervasive, then the fact that we are alive means that
 that God must be alive...
 If such a God were dead, we would all be dead....

 If God exists, and there is only ONE God, 'who' is Almighty, All
 Powerful, and All Pervasive, then such a 'being' is very probably
 existing in realms of which we have little or no knowledge, and is
 probably very far beyond being concerned with life and death as we
 perceive them.

 If God exists at all, then he/she/it/they must be alive!

 Imagine that we have a miscreant child, and we feel sure that without
 intervention, this child is going to do something which is going to
 cause itself, and/or other people harm or injury.
 We try to reason, to gently persuade, further reasoning, more
 persuasion, all to no avail.
 We may threaten the child with the likely consequences of it's actions,
 with punishment, yet all is still of no avail, the child is even more
 determined than ever to take the undesirable course of action....
 What to Do??
 If we are not to kill the child to prevent the undesirable course of
 action, then we have to let it go to learn by its self, the hard way!

 Now let us look at humanity, and let us imagine a God [with the upper
 echelons of the planetary hierarchy (if there is such a hierarchy...)]
 looking down at us.
 We have been given teachers, saints martyrs, gurus, saddhus, yogis, t'ai
 chi masters and mistresses and prophets of doom; we have been, and we
 now are being 'punished' with diseases of the body, the emotions, the
 mind, and the spirit... all to the very same NO AVAIL !
 We insist on persisting in our undesirable course of action...
 Maybe God is Praying that we WAKE UP?
 GET REAL?
 MAYBE DO SOMETHING CREATIVE WITH OUR TIME HERE
 INSTEAD OF WANTONLY DESTROYING HEAVEN HERE ON EARTH??

 Perhaps 2012 is an opportunity, such that if we have sorted our mess out
 by then, we may be permitted to evolve to the next stage of our human
 development....?

 WHO KNOWS ??

mary rose:

Nick - I love the way you think, feel, and express yourself on this. If I 
were a
few years younger, we could have children together.    So,

here's some oxytocin flowing your way.  You do understand that ocytoxin
is a neuropeptide in our body that causes us to have feelings of closeness,
bonding and friendship with one another when we reach out and touch someone
don't you?  And, that if we want to avoid war and create peace, we need to 
get
the oxytocin flowing between us.  That means doing things like working and
playing together, dancing, and socializing, and getting to know one another 
better.
Reaching out and hugging some one, or doing a handshake, or touching someone
on the shoulder, or putting your arm around someone in friendship are all 
appropriate
ways of making heart to heart contact and solidifying a relationship, as the 
oxytocin
created in this manner acts as a bonding agent between people.  .

Nature really has provided all these things for us as a natural component in 
our
system.  What she didn't provide was an operating manual, darn it.  So, 
we've
left to learn how to manage our system by doing.  And, I guess the Universal
Mind jsut designed us that way.  But parents still think they have to 
"parent"
us instead of leaving us alone as you suggest doing here.

While you speak of God, IMHO, it's Mother Earth that is one tough cookie.
And, as the saying goes, "It's not nice to fool around with Mother Nature,"

with love and hugs, and in gratitude for all that you do Nick, and all that 
we do
together.

mary rose .






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