[GJM] Fw: Going Mainstream? [globalnetnews-summary] DID ANCIENT BIOTECHNOLOGY CREATE "NEPHILIM"?

[mary rose]

IMHO, this fits right in with our present dialogue on religion and the 
omission (from the Roman version of both religion and God) of those 
documents I have hereforeto mentioned.  Which, as I have previously said, 
leaves us with an incomplete picture of both God and religion.  In order to 
make intelligent decisions, we must have the ability to contemplate the 
whole dynamic in order to fully understand anthing whether it be God or a 
piece of dung.

When we all "get this" we may be able to move forward into the future in 
health and wellness.  In the meantime we will continue to run into one 
another in the asylum.  Hopefully soon we will tire of being nut cases and 
design a key that will open the exit from insanity door.

mary rose

P.S. May I suggest that everyone, as Co-learners, busy themselves with a 
couple websites here re: religion, giants and Nefilim, while I tend to some 
other matters.  And maybe we can have more of an intelligent discussion on 
the subject of "Why were these omissions made in the Bible? and how do we 
rectify this?"

The Bible UFO Connection - The Connections - Human Anomalies ...Historical 
North American Giants. 1792 New York, Buffalo: Turner's History of the 
Holland Purchase reports that 7 and 8 foot skeletons were found at an ...
www.bibleufo.com/humanphenom7.htm  And, since I am from Ohio, and familiar 
with the "mound builders fo that region, who were also giants, am posting 
another link for your perusal on this. There is much, much more on the Net 
if you just take a little time to Google, please.. 
www.burlingtonnews.net/ohiogiants.html

And don't be surprised at all the other anomolies you are going to run into 
on these sites. Even people with horns growing out of their heads.  Possibly 
some problems that Ninhursag ran into when she was attempting to clone Eve.?
Too bad the author of this article hadn't as yet read Zacharia Sitchin's 
translations of the Sumerian Tablets before writing this, he might have been 
more in-formed.   mr.     .      .

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DID ANCIENT BIOTECHNOLOGY CREATE "NEPHILIM"?
 http://www.newswithviews.com/Horn/thomas10.htm
By Thomas R. Horn
May 23, 2007
NewsWithViews.com

"The benei Elohim saw the daughters of Adam, that they were fit extensions" 
(Gen 6:2, Interlinear Hebrew Bible).

May 3, 2007 -- RaidersNewsNetwork.com -- In the study of the Old Testament 
Book of Genesis, beings of great stature called "giants" appear, which some 
scholars believe came into existence after powerful angels known as 
'Watchers' descended to earth and used women (or their biological matter) to 
construct bodies of flesh, which they used to "extend" themselves into the 
material world.

The Apocryphal books of Enoch, 2 Esdras, Genesis Aprocryphon and Jasher 
support the Genesis story, adding that the sin of the angels grew to include 
genetic modification of animals as well as humans. The Book of Jasher, 
mentioned in the Bible in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18, says, "After the 
fallen angels went into the daughters of men, the sons of men taught the 
mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order to provoke the 
Lord"(4:18). This clear reference to the Genesis 6 record illustrates that 
"animals" were included in whatever cross-species experiments were being 
conducted, and that this activity resulted in judgment from God. The Book of 
Enoch also supports this record, saying that after the fallen angels merged 
their DNA with women, they "began to sin against birds, and beasts, and 
reptiles, and fish" (7:5,6). The Old Testament contains associated reference 
to genetic mutations, which developed among humans following this activity, 
including unusual size, physical strength, six fingers, six toes, animal 
appetite for blood and even lion-like features among men (2 Sam 21:20; 
23:20).

What if, by corrupting the species barrier in which each creature was to 
recreate after its "own kind," Watchers had successfully mingled 
human-animal DNA and combined the hereditary traits of different species 
into a single new mutation? An entirely new being-Nephilim-might have 
suddenly possessed the combined intelligence and instincts (seeing, hearing, 
smelling, reacting to the environment) of several life forms and in ways 
unfamiliar to creation.

Will modern biotechnology resurrect Nephilim?

Today, molecular biologists classify the functions of genes within native 
species but are unsure in many cases how a gene's coding might react from 
one species to another. In recombinant DNA technology, a "transgenic" 
organism is created when the genetic structure of one specie is altered by 
the transfer of a gene or genes from another. This could change not only the 
genetic structure of the modified animal and its offspring, but its 
evolutionary development, sensory modalities, disease propensity, 
personality and behavior traits among other things.

Such transgenic tinkering already exists in many parts of the world 
including the United States, Britain and Australia where animal eggs are 
being used to create hybrid human embryos from which stem cell lines can be 
produced for medical research. A team at Newcastle and Durham universities 
in the UK recently announced plans to "create hybrid rabbit and human 
embryos, as well as other 'chimera' embryos mixing human and cow genes." 
More alarmingly, the same researchers have already managed to reanimate 
tissue "from dead human cells in another breakthrough which was heralded as 
a way of overcoming ethical dilemmas over using living embryos for medical 
research."[1] In the United States, similar studies led Irv Weissman, 
director of Stanford University's Institute of Cancer/Stem Cell Biology and 
Medicine in California to create mice with partly human brains, causing some 
ethicists to raise the issue of "humanized animals" in the future that could 
become "self aware" as a result of genetic modification. Even the President 
of the United States, George W. Bush in his January 31st, 2006 State of the 
Union Address called for legislation to "prohibit.. creating human-animal 
hybrids, and buying, selling, or patenting human embryos."

Not everybody shares these concerns. A radical, international, intellectual, 
and cultural movement known as "Transhumanism" supports the use of new 
sciences including genetic modification to enhance human mental and physical 
abilities and aptitudes so that "human beings will eventually be transformed 
into beings with such greatly expanded abilities as to merit the label 
'posthuman.'"[2]

I have personally debated leading transhumanist, Dr. James Hughes on his 
weekly syndicated talk show, Changesurfer Radio. Hughes is Executive 
Director of the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies and teaches 
at Trinity College in Hartford Connecticut. He is also the author of 
"Citizen Cyborg: Why Democratic Societies Must Respond to the Redesigned 
Human of the Future", a sort of Bible for transhumanist values. Dr. Hughes 
joins a growing body of academics, bioethicists and sociologists who support 
"large-scale genetic and neurological engineering of ourselves..[a] new 
chapter in evolution [as] the result of accelerating developments in the 
fields of genomics, stem-cell research, genetic enhancement, germ-line 
engineering, neuro-pharmacology, artificial intelligence, robotics, pattern 
recognition technologies, and nanotechnology.. at the intersection of 
science and religion [which has begun to question] what it means to be 
human.."[3]

In related development, Case Law School in Cleveland was awarded a $773,000 
grant in April 2006 from the National Institutes of Health to develop 
guidelines "for the use of human subjects in what could be the next frontier 
in medical technology - genetic enhancement." Maxwell Mehlman, Arthur E. 
Petersilge Professor of Law, director of the Law-Medicine Center at the Case 
Western Reserve University School of Law, and professor of bioethics in the 
Case School of Medicine is leading the team of "law professors, physicians, 
and bioethicists in the two-year project to develop standards for tests on 
human subjects in research that involves the use of genetic technologies to 
enhance 'normal' individuals - to make them smarter, stronger, or 
better-looking."[4]

Other law schools including Stanford and Oxford have recently hosted "Human 
Enhancement and Technology" conferences where transhumanists, futurists, 
bioethicists and legal scholars merged to discuss the ethical and legal 
ramifications of posthumans.

In his book "Life, Liberty and the Defense of Dignity: The Challenges of 
Bioethics," the former chairman of the President's Council on Bioethics, 
Leon Kass provided a status report on where we stand today regarding 
transhumanism. He warned in the introduction that "Human nature itself lies 
on the operating table, ready for alteration, for eugenic and psychic 
'enhancement,' for wholesale redesign. In leading laboratories, academic and 
industrial, new creators are confidently amassing their powers and quietly 
honing their skills, while on the street their evangelists are zealously 
prophesying a posthuman future. For anyone who cares about preserving our 
humanity, the time has come for paying attention."[5]

Not to be outdone in this regard by the National Institute of Health, DARPA 
and other agencies of the U.S. military have taken inspiration from the 
likes of Tolkein's Lord of the Rings. In a scene reminiscent of Saruman the 
wizard creating monstrous Uruk-Hai to wage unending, merciless war, we find 
billions of American tax dollars have flowed into the Pentagon's 
Frankensteinian dream of "super-soldiers" and the "Extended Performance War 
Fighter" program. Not only does the EPWFP envision "injecting young men and 
women with hormonal, neurological and genetic concoctions; implanting 
microchips and electrodes in their bodies to control their internal organs 
and brain functions; and plying them with drugs that deaden some of their 
normal human tendencies: the need for sleep, the fear of death, [and] the 
reluctance to kill their fellow human beings," but Chris Floyd in an article 
for CounterPunch a while back quoted the Daily Telegraph and Christian 
Science Monitor, saying "some of the research now underway involves actually 
altering the genetic code of soldiers, modifying bits of DNA to fashion a 
new type of human specimen, one that functions like a machine, killing 
tirelessly for days and nights on end.... mutations [that] will 
'revolutionize the contemporary order of battle' and guarantee 'operational 
dominance across the whole range of potential U.S. military employments."[6]

In keeping with our editorial, imagine the staggering implications of such 
science if dead Nephilim tissue was discovered with intact DNA and a 
government somewhere that was willing to clone or mingle the extracted 
organisms to make Homo-nephilim. If one accepts the biblical story of giants 
as real, such discovery could actually be made someday, or perhaps already 
has been and was covered up. The technology to resurrect the extinct species 
already exists, and cloning methods are being studied now for use with 
bringing back Tasmanian Tigers, Wooly Mammoths and other extinguished 
creatures.

"Let not the dead live, let not the giants rise again." (Isaiah 26.14, 
Douay-Rheims Version).

The reference above from the Book of Isaiah 26:14 could be troubling, as it 
may reflect a prayer from the prophet, a petition to God not to allow the 
giants to incarnate again. Did Isaiah pray this way because he knew 
something about the future, something related to a future return of 
Nephilim?

The relationship between creatures called "Rephaim" and the Nephilim of 
ancient texts is enlightening, as Rephaim are viewed as the spirits of dead 
Nephilim in the grave. The word "Rephaim" carries with it the meaning 'to 
heal' or to be 'healed' as in a 'resurrection'. In the Ras Shamra texts, the 
Rephaim are described as both human and divine beings who worshipped the 
Amorite god Ba'al, the ruler of the underworld, where the Rephaim served as 
his acolyte assembly of lesser gods, kings, heroes, and rulers. These beings 
were believed to have power to return from the dead through incarnation in 
bodily form as 'Nephilim'. The ability of Rephaim to be reincarnated in this 
way as living Nephilim is viewed by some as the explanation for Nephilim 
existing before, and after, the Great Flood.

The book of Job may elucidate this idea when it says, "Dead things are 
formed from under the waters. . . ." (Job 26.5). The dead in this text are 
Rephaim and the phrase "are formed" is from "Chuwl", meaning to twist or 
whirl as in a double helix coil or genetic manufacturing. When combined with 
something my good friend Steve Quayle once wrote, the word "Chuwl" takes on 
added meaning:

"When the Greek Septuagint was created, the Hebrew word Nephilim was 
translated into Greek as 'gegenes.' This is the same word used in Greek 
mythology for the 'Titans', creatures created through the interbreeding of 
the Greek gods and human beings. The English words 'genes' and 'genetics' 
are built around the same root word as gegenes; genea meaning 'breed' or 
'kind'. Thus, the choice of this word again suggests a genetic component to 
the creation of these giants."[7]

And what about this prophecy from Isaiah:

"The vision which Esaias son of Amos saw against Babylon. Lift up a standard 
on the mountain of the plain, exalt the voice to them, beckon with the hand, 
OPEN THE GATES, YE RULER. I GIVE COMMAND AND I BRING THEM: GIANTS ARE COMING 
TO FULFILL MY WRATH [emphasis added]. . . . For behold! the day of the Lord 
is coming which cannot be escaped, a day of wrath and anger, to make the 
world desolate. . . . And Babylon . . . shall be as when God overthrew Sodom 
and Gomorrah. . . . It shall never be inhabited . . . and monsters shall 
rest there, and devils shall dance there and satyrs shall dwell there . . ." 
(Isaiah 13:1-3, 9, 19-22, [Septuagint Version]).[8]

Given what is happening in Babylon (Iraq) and biotechnology today, we may be 
witnessing the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy.

Footnotes:

1, Picken, Jane. Medical Marvels, The Evening Chronicle, April 13, 2007
2, Wikipedia, The Free Enclyclopedia. Transhumanism, 2 May. 2007. Wikimedia 
Foundation Inc.
3, Grassie, William. What does it mean to be Human? A John Templeton 
Foundation Research Lecture Query, 2006
4, Case Western Reserve University. Case Law School receives $773,000 NIH 
grant to develop guidelines for genetic enhancement research: Professor Max 
Mehlman to lead team of law professors, physicians, and bioethicists in 
two-year project, April 28, 2006
5, Kass, Leon R. Life, Liberty and the Defense of Dignity: The Challenge for 
Bioethics, Encounter Books; 1 edition (October 25, 2002)
6, Floyd, Chris. Monsters, Inc.: The Pentagon Plan to Create Mutant 
"Super-Soldiers", CounterPunch, January 13, 2003
7, Quayle, Steve. Genesis 6 Giants. Bozeman, MT: End Time Thunder 
Publishers, 2002.
8, A vision which esails son of Amos Saw against Babylon