[GJM] Understanding the communication of Jesus/Bible is not Dark--there are various narrations ..Please read Qu'ran
robert searle
dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Jun 6 07:43:22 MDT 2008
I think it is best to agree to disagree, and leave it at that.
R.Searle
--- On Fri, 6/6/08, Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam <mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam <mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [GJM] Understanding the communication of Jesus/Bible is not Dark--there are various narrations ..Please read Qu'ran
> To: dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk
> Cc: "Discussion Forum for Global Justice" <discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>, "FixGov" <fixgov at yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, 6 June, 2008, 1:53 PM
> Dear Robert and all who have not read all of the Holy
> Qu'ran with due reverence
>
> Greetings for peace,
>
> Before Jesus, indeed, humanity had messengers..but the
> persona of Jesus is distinct in that he was born through
> the command of Allah..and for Allah/ the Arabic word for
> the Creator..He was distinct and performed miracles with
> the permission..Misdeeds of men and women cannot be
> attributed to the person of Jesus as it is
> clearly noted that it is only by the deeds that
> men and women will have a passage for heaven. I have no
> respect for Freke(s) and other such atheistic social
> constructivists..for whom Jesus is creation of fertile
> imagination and Muhammad, the last messenger,a mobster..It
> is these idiots who have driven men and women from the
> prayer halls and show them in the ecologically hostile
> dancing halls and bars..for alterning consciousness.
>
> Please do not mix up the messengers with the Creator of the
> messengers..I did not expect this from u..Semantically Allah
> as the Creator is not same as Muhammad, Jesus,Moses , Rama,
> Krishna, Buddha..who took birth and walked the earth like
> all of us.. They deserve respect not worship that is
> reserved for the Almighty only.
>
> You may like to read my post on social order in the month
> of September at http://muhammad_mukhtar_alam.tigblog.org
>
> Please under the hurdles in monetary reform and this is
> becuase of rebellion against the commands of Allah/God .
>
> I wish if only pious Christians, people of Moses ,Muslim,
> monotheistic Brahmins ,Sikhs and Buddhists unite for
> accepting the command against usury..we would niether have
> inflation nor inequity..
>
> Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 6/6/08, robert searle
> <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> From: robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [GJM] Bible is not Dark--there are various
> narrations ..Please read Qu'ran
> To: discussion at globaljusticemovement.net
> Date: Friday, 6 June, 2008, 5:36 PM
>
> Dear Muhammad, et al,
> Freke, and Gandy are highly respected scholarly
> authors, and check, and
> double check their information.I am sure they have read the
> Quran . What they
> have been trying to do is to get to the "hidden"
> truth of certain
> religions.
>
> The book which they wrote about Christianity was quite
> fascinating. It was
> called the Jesus Mysteries. It revealed that the Bible
> teachings concerning the
> life of Christ were clearly copied in the main from
> specific tales about Osiris,
> and Dionysius. However, such claims have been known for
> decades amongst many
> Christian scholars. What Freke, and Gandy did was merely to
> popularize this
> "revelation". In other words, Christianity is
> largely a re-hash of
> pagan, or "heathen" thinking, and beliefs under a
> different name....
>
> As far as I am concerned this does not undermine a personal
> belief in Christ.
> It merely expands it into something more extraordinary, and
> wonderful. The Real
> Christ is the PURE HIGHER INNER SELF. It does not matter
> (eg. Allah, Krishna,
> Ram, et al)what name you give It because what matters is
> your FAITH, AND BELIEF
> in It. The SELF is nothing but a projection from God, and
> is WHO, AND WHAT WE
> REALLY ARE without all the negative mental/emotional
> baggage. So, all this
> religious bickering about who has the real ultimate
> spiritual authority becomes
> essentially meaningless in the light of all this.
>
>
>
>
> Robert Searle
>
>
> --- On Fri, 6/6/08, Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
> <mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
> <mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [GJM] Bible is not Dark--there are
> various narrations
> ...Please read Qu'ran
> > To: "Discussion Forum for Global
> Justice"
> <discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
> > Date: Friday, 6 June, 2008, 6:30 AM
> > Dear Mary
> >
> > Please read the holy Qur'an for references to
> Bible..
> > &nbsp;Freke and Gandy&nbsp;appears
> to have not read
> > the holy Qu'ran. I guess u have not read the
> Holy
> > Qur'an. Please keep Liptons and Valerie aside
> for a
> > while. I have been hearing about them for these
> many years.
> > They describe and there is no prescription for the
> issues
> > that we are dealing as part of global challenges.
> We need
> > to unite with inter-faith commons.&nbsp;
> People in the
> > past ,present and the future will be held
> accountable for
> > their deeds only on the Day of Judgement.
> > &nbsp;
> > I started reading that in early 90's as part
> of
> > understanding the word of Allah..There is always
> scope for
> > scrutiny. Please use all the intellectual
> energy..but for
> > the sake of our own temporal and eternal
> wellebeing, it is
> >
> important&nbsp;that&nbsp;&nbsp;we
> get the grace
> > to abide by the work..Freke did injustice to
> himself for
> > calling Muhammad a mobster in a negeative
> sense..all the
> > communicators address the masses..
> > &nbsp;
> > &nbsp;
> > &nbsp;
> >
> > --- On Fri, 6/6/08, mary rose
> > &lt;maryrose333 at att.net&gt; wrote:
> >
> > From: mary rose
> &lt;maryrose333 at att.net&gt;
> > Subject: [GJM] The Dark Bible
> > To: FixGov at yahoogroups.com, "Discussion Forum
> for
> > Global Justice"
> >
> &lt;discussion at globaljusticemovement.net&gt;
> > Date: Friday, 6 June, 2008, 4:11 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I thought this webpage had been posted to the
> > Co-learner's list
> > but perhaps&nbsp;not.&nbsp;
> Anyway, i have had an
> > inquiry as to the URL
> > for this site so am publishing it again for the
> convenience
> > of
> > anyone who missed it.&nbsp;
> .&nbsp;
> > &nbsp;
> > http://nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible2.htm
> > &nbsp;
> > The URL for the main page of this site
> is:&nbsp;
> > &nbsp;
> >
> http://nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm
> > &nbsp;
> > IMHO, i feel that anything published as "the
> word of
> > God"
> > should be scrutinized from every angle because
> there are
> > so many people who have been
> "enculturated" from
> > birth
> > to believe the Bible is beyond scrutiny as every
> word was
> > written by God.&nbsp;
> > &nbsp;
> > When, in fact, as Freke and Gandy ask:
> > &nbsp;
> > "What if the old testament is a work of
> > fiction,&nbsp;Jesus never&nbsp;
> > existed, and Muhammed was a mobster?&nbsp;
> >
> &nbsp;.&nbsp;&nbsp;.&nbsp;
> > &nbsp;
> > mary rose
> >
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