[GJM] Understanding the communication of Jesus/Bible is not Dark--there are various narrations ..Please read Qu'ran

[Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam]

Dear Robert and all who have not read all of the Holy Qu'ran with due reverence
 
Greetings for peace,
 
Before Jesus, indeed, humanity had messengers..but the persona of Jesus is distinct in that he was born through the command of Allah..and for Allah/ the Arabic word for the Creator..He was distinct and performed miracles with the permission..Misdeeds of men and women cannot be attributed to the person of Jesus as it is clearly  noted that it is only by the deeds that men and women will have a passage for heaven. I have no respect for Freke(s) and other such atheistic social constructivists..for whom Jesus is creation of fertile imagination and Muhammad, the last messenger,a mobster..It is these idiots who have driven men and women from the prayer halls and show them in the ecologically hostile dancing halls and bars..for alterning consciousness.
 
Please do not mix up the messengers with the Creator of the messengers..I did not expect this from u..Semantically Allah as the Creator is not same as Muhammad, Jesus,Moses , Rama, Krishna, Buddha..who took birth and walked the earth like all of us.. They deserve respect not worship that is reserved for the Almighty only.
 
You may like to read my post on social order in the month of September at http://muhammad_mukhtar_alam.tigblog.org
 
Please under the hurdles in monetary reform and this is becuase of rebellion against the commands of Allah/God .
 
I wish if only pious Christians, people of Moses ,Muslim, monotheistic Brahmins ,Sikhs and Buddhists unite for accepting the command against usury..we would niether have inflation nor inequity..
 
Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
 


--- On Fri, 6/6/08, robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [GJM] Bible is not Dark--there are various narrations ..Please read Qu'ran
To: discussion at globaljusticemovement.net
Date: Friday, 6 June, 2008, 5:36 PM

Dear Muhammad, et al,
       Freke, and Gandy are highly respected scholarly authors, and check, and
double check their information.I am sure they have read the Quran . What they
have been trying to do is to get to the "hidden" truth of certain
religions. 

The book which they wrote about Christianity was quite fascinating. It was
called the Jesus Mysteries. It revealed that the Bible teachings concerning the
life of Christ were clearly copied in the main from specific tales about Osiris,
and Dionysius. However, such claims have been known for decades amongst many
Christian scholars. What Freke, and Gandy did was merely to popularize this
"revelation". In other words, Christianity is largely a re-hash of
pagan, or "heathen" thinking, and beliefs under a different name....

As far as I am concerned this does not undermine a personal belief in Christ.
It merely expands it into something more extraordinary, and wonderful. The Real
Christ is the PURE HIGHER INNER SELF. It does not matter (eg. Allah, Krishna,
Ram, et al)what name you give It because what matters is your FAITH, AND BELIEF
in It. The SELF is nothing but a projection from God, and is WHO, AND WHAT WE
REALLY ARE without all the negative mental/emotional baggage. So, all this
religious bickering about who has the real ultimate spiritual authority becomes
essentially meaningless in the light of all this.

 


Robert Searle


--- On Fri, 6/6/08, Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam <mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> From: Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam <mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [GJM] Bible is not Dark--there are various narrations
...Please read Qu'ran
> To: "Discussion Forum for Global Justice"
<discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
> Date: Friday, 6 June, 2008, 6:30 AM
> Dear Mary
> 
> Please read the holy Qur'an for references to Bible..
>  Freke and Gandy appears to have not read
> the holy Qu'ran. I guess u have not read the Holy
> Qur'an. Please keep Liptons and Valerie aside for a
> while. I have been hearing about them for these many years.
> They describe and there is no prescription for the issues
> that we are dealing as part of global challenges. We need
> to unite with inter-faith commons.  People in the
> past ,present and the future will be held accountable for
> their deeds only on the Day of Judgement. 
>  
> I started reading that in early 90's as part of
> understanding the word of Allah..There is always scope for
> scrutiny. Please use all the intellectual energy..but for
> the sake of our own temporal and eternal wellebeing, it is
> important that  we get the grace
> to abide by the work..Freke did injustice to himself for
> calling Muhammad a mobster in a negeative sense..all the
> communicators address the masses..
>  
>  
>  
> 
> --- On Fri, 6/6/08, mary rose
> <maryrose333 at att.net> wrote:
> 
> From: mary rose <maryrose333 at att.net>
> Subject: [GJM] The Dark Bible
> To: FixGov at yahoogroups.com, "Discussion Forum for
> Global Justice"
> <discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
> Date: Friday, 6 June, 2008, 4:11 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I thought this webpage had been posted to the
> Co-learner's list
> but perhaps not.  Anyway, i have had an
> inquiry as to the URL
> for this site so am publishing it again for the convenience
> of 
> anyone who missed it.  . 
>  
> http://nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible2.htm
>  
> The URL for the main page of this site is: 
>  
> http://nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm
>  
> IMHO, i feel that anything published as "the word of
> God" 
> should be scrutinized from every angle because there are
> so many people who have been "enculturated" from
> birth
> to believe the Bible is beyond scrutiny as every word was
> written by God.  
>  
> When, in fact, as Freke and Gandy ask:
>  
> "What if the old testament is a work of
> fiction, Jesus never 
> existed, and Muhammed was a mobster? 
>  .  .  
>  
> mary rose
>
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