[GJM] An Interview With Researcher Dr. Candace Pert, Ph.D. w/comment by mary rose

[robert searle]

Dear All,

        The problem with all this is that its approach, and understanding is incomplete with the Multi-Dimensional Hypothesis. However, they are ofcourse important steps in the right direction.


R.Searle.   

          http://kheper.net/essays/Multi-Dimensional_Science.html





--- On Sun, 13/7/08, mary rose <maryrose333 at att.net> wrote:

> From: mary rose <maryrose333 at att.net>
> Subject: [GJM] An Interview With Researcher Dr. Candace Pert, Ph.D.  w/comment by mary rose
> To: FixGov at yahoogroups.com, "Discussion Forum for Global Justice" <discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
> Date: Sunday, 13 July, 2008, 10:20 PM
> I want to forward this interview with Dr. Candace Pert as
> she demonstrates here how, what Dr. V. Vernon Woolf calls
> "holodynes," form in the body and remain there
> until they are transformed or released (matured) in such a
> way as to take on another form higher up in the chain of
> being. In the "Dance of Life," (2005) Dr. Woolf
> describes holodynes as:  
> 
> "Information systems that are holographic in nature.
> From "holo" meaning "whole" and
> "dyn" meaning "unit of power" as in
> "dynamic". Holodynes are considered holographic
> thought forms that have the power to cause. They are
> thought to exist within the water molecules of the
> microtubules" which form the structure for the cells
> that make up the body. 
> 
> That these holodynes reside within the body is
> substantiated by masage therapy, with an energy healing
> technique such as Reiki for example, demonstrating that
> when these entities (emotions) are brought to the surface,
> or to the attention of the conscious mind, they may then be
> transformed (healed/matured) using the power of the
> conscious mind to do so. But until they are encountered or
> discovered, they lie under the surface of our awareness,
> buried in the sub-conscious mind where they cause us to act
> without conscious recognition of where these actions are
> coming from. Recall the tooth paste tube incident, as told
> by Dr. Bruce Lipton, where someone may go ballistic upon
> finding the toothpaste lid left off of the tube by another
> family member, when the person making the discovery has
> been trained to always recap the tube from childhood, and
> possibly punished when they did not do so. More on the
> subconscious mind and how it operates at a later date 
> However, I do want to mention that Dr. Pert has come to the
> recognition that the cells of the body house the
> sub-conscious mind field.  So, now the question arises as
> to "if the body houses the sub-conscious mind, then
> where does the conscious mind reside"?  Especially
> when research is now strongly suggesting that
> "mind" or "consciousness" itself is
> "non-local". And, from this point then we are
> forced to extend our thinking into outer space (universal)
> called the "plenum" where the Universal Mind
> resides in the form of the "Akashic Field" as
> postulated by Dr. Ervin Laszlo and other researchers
> (physicists) of today. And this is where it begins to
> appear that each of us is configured like a personal
> computer that is then linked into a field (Akashic) which
> is configured like a huge mainframe computer, called the
> "Universal Mind" as it records everything from
> all time as recorded by the personal database of
> individuals.  So, perhaps each of us acts as an
> "information gathering and distribution center"
> designed to contribute data to the mainframe which then
> computes what action needs to be taken at any given time in
> order to ensure the progression of the universe into a
> higher order of consciousness/wellness.  And, within the
> framework, we must consider that it takes both negative and
> positive feedback/action in order to keep the system
> balanced/coherent. And, of course this thinking is very
> much supported by David Bohm's theory of there being an
> Implicate Order to the Universe.  And, then if we
> extrapolate this further into the study of Sacred Geometry
> and Fractals, we find further evidence of this being the
> case. The study of Sacred Geometry reveals that the
> Universe is mathmatically constructed, and, is very
> precisely constructed as well. So now, we are into the
> field of "intelligent design." 
> 
> And, now, in the context of "the new science" and
> the field of "epigenetics," when we ask the
> question as to where this "intelligence" comes
> from, it is "we" as a collective consciousness
> that appears to be the source -- the designer.  Thus, there
> is no God "out there," as formerly envisioned --
> everything is taking place from within us.  And so-called
> dieties, then, are but symbolic culturally-biased
> representations of our "inner"
> consciousness/awareness, as viewed by the holographic mind.
>  .       .    
> 
> Now, here is the Interview:             .     
> 
> 
> Approaching A Theory of Emotion:
> An Interview With Candace Pert, Ph.D
> By Lynn Grodzki, Fellow
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
>       The New Identify Process (NIP) and other forms of
> emotive psychotherapy embrace the healing tradition of
> catharsis--intense emotional expression is elicited within
> a contained therapeutic environment. This emotive therapy
> follows in a direct line from the earliest forms of ancient
> healing arts through recent scientific studies exploring the
> link between body and mind. The challenge for clinicians in
> answering the criticism about the use of catharsis is to
> conceptually bridge past and present in evaluating emotive
> methods. 
>       Happily, an unexpected voice has joined the debate
> about the importance of emotional therapy. Candace Pert,
> Ph.D., researcher and pharmacologist, may help point the
> way to a resolution of a problem that has faced clinicians
> using emotive methods for the last 100 years. In adding her
> biochemical research perspective to the discussion of the
> meaning and value of catharsis, she is addressing a weak
> point and the biggest problem that exists in the field of
> emotive, experiential psychotherapy. She is helping to
> formulate, for the first time, a unified theory of emotion.
> 
> 
>       First, a bit of history. Although the use of
> catharsis was a key element of treatment during the first
> 200 years of early psychotherapy (with Mesmer, Charcot,
> Janet, and Bruer), Freud's rejection of this cathartic
> method within psychoanalysis and his reliance on free
> association, "The talking cure" as a sufficient
> form of abreaction, spread until dominating the field. By
> 1920, methods of emotive psychotherapy moved to the fringes
> of conventional psychological practice. Freud gave as one of
> his reasons for rejecting emotive methods his frustration as
> a neurologist in trying to theorize about the workings of
> emotion. Although some of his colleagues continued to rely
> on methods of catharsis (notably Ferenczi, Brown and Reich)
> and although a second wave of interest sparked the
> development of additional methods in the early 1950's
> (by Janov, Lowen, Perls, Casriel and Jackins) the academic
> literature continues to reject catharsis, following Freud.
> Methods of emotive psychotherapy, when mentioned, are
> usually discounted as unproved and ineffective at best, or
> counterproductive and harmful at worst. Currently, the
> criticism of emotive therapy is based on the results of
> often flawed, past research about catharsis.
> 
> 
>       In some studies, catharsis is misdefined to mean any
> kind of ventilation (from watching a wrestling match to
> screaming, to hitting another person). Because clients
> require a safe space (environmental containment) in order
> to achieve a true experience of catharsis, the results that
> clinicians can produce in their office settings are hard to
> reproduce in laboratory settings. But the biggest hurdle to
> researching and validating emotional methods has been the
> vagueness about emotion itself. Until recently, little has
> been understood from a scientific basis about what emotion
> is and is not.
> 
> 
>       Psychological textbooks published only thirty years
> ago state, "Emotion is virtually impossible to define
> . . . except in terms of conflicting theories" and
> "No genuine order can be discerned within the
> field." As long as emotion remains an abstraction,
> lacking a unified theory base, it is impossible to research
> and validate methods of emotive therapy. The kinds of
> questions that need to be answered include: how emotion is
> manifest, how memory and emotion interact, whether emotion
> is concrete (real) or conceptual (a construct), if
> concrete, how emotion acts in the body, and how unexpressed
> emotion is stored.
> 
> 
>       Enter into this discussion Dr Candace Pert. For the
> past twenty years, Pert has been studying the movement of
> amino acid chains in the human body. In the process, she is
> unraveling the mystery of mind-body communication and
> changing forever the way we understand emotion.
> 
> 
>       For Pert, pharmacologist and professor at Georgetown
> University, the mind is not just in the brain -- it is also
> in the body. The vehicle that the mind and body use to
> communicate with each other is the chemistry of emotion.
> The chemicals in question are molecules, short chains of
> amino acids called peptides and receptors, that she
> believes to be the "biochemical correlate of
> emotion." The peptides can be found in your brain, but
> also in your stomach, your muscles, your glands and all your
> major organs, sending messages back and forth. After decades
> of research, Pert is finally able to make clear how emotion
> creates the bridge between mind and body.
> 
> 
>       Candace Pert lives in the world where emotions make
> scientific sense. As former Chief of Brain Biochemistry at
> the NIH for 13 years, she studied the inner workings of the
> body with an eye towards identifying and locating peptides
> and receptors. She became convinced these chemicals were
> the physical manifestation of emotion. In 1993, Pert
> appeared on Bill Moyer's landmark TV program Healing
> and Mind, where she explained her theories of emotion to a
> national audience. She attracted attention for being that
> rare scientist who can explain their work to a lay audience
> with a sense of humor and passion. These days Pert spends
> substantial amount of time in Rockville, Maryland, as a
> consultant on the trials of a new drug, Peptide T, that is
> part of a non-toxic AIDS therapy. She takes some time from
> her research and teaching schedule to lecture
> internationally on the issues of neuropeptides and
> mind-body communications.
> 
> 
>       I began to correspond with Pert several years ago,
> and in May of 1995, as a result of her desire to be part of
> the 1995 ISNIP Conference, we sat down to talk about a
> subject that interests both of us: the need for a unified
> theory of emotion. She offered some new, startling insights
> of her own that explain how experiential forms of
> psychotherapy and alternative medicine work. What follows
> is a portion of our discussion.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>       Lynn Grodzki: How do you understand the connection
> between memory and emotion? 
> 
>       Candace Pert: Experiments show that the hippocampus
> area of the brain [part of the limbic system] is the access
> or gateway into the whole emotional experience. Almost every
> variety of peptide receptor is found in the hippocampus.
> Through the peptide network, which is anything that has
> peptide receptors on it, you can access different memories,
> mood states or developmental stages. Strong emotions are the
> key variable that make us bother to remember things.
> 
> 
>       There is a lot of evidence that memory occurs at the
> point of synapse, there are changes that take place in the
> receptors. The sensitivity of the receptors are part of
> memory and pattern storage. But the peptide network expends
> beyond the hippocampus, to organs, tissue, skin, muscle and
> endocrine glands. They all have peptides receptors on them
> and can access and store emotional information. This means
> this emotional memory is stored in many places in the body,
> not just the brain. The autonomic nervous system is pivotal
> to this entire understanding. Its importance is much more
> subtle than has been thought. Every peptide that I have
> every mapped and more can be found in the autonomic nervous
> system. There is an emotional coding to the way our
> autonomic patterns are elaborated.
> 
> 
>       LG: The autonomic nervous system includes the spinal
> cord and the ganglion that are down either side. Is it
> possible that emotion could be stored in places like this
> indefinitely?
> 
> 
>       CP: Absolutely. Emotional memories are our earliest
> memories. One of my earliest memories is that I struck a
> match when my mother was making dinner. I just started a
> tiny fire, and she came over and put it out with her
> dishrag. I can still see the terror in her face. I think I
> must have been one year old. Emotional memories are long
> term memories, stored where we need them, for survival.
> 
> 
>       LG: Let's say you had forgotten this memory and
> you are in a situation where something similar happens,
> perhaps your own daughter plays with matches and you find
> your reaction has an intensity that suggests an earlier
> incident was attached to it. How is early emotional memory
> retrieved in the body?
> 
> 
>       CP: You can access emotional memory anywhere in the
> peptide/receptor network, in any number of ways. For
> example, if you have a memory that has to do with food and
> eating, you might access it by the nerves hooked up to the
> pancreas. You can access through any nodal point in the
> neural loop. Nodal points are places where there is a lot
> of convergent information with many different peptide
> receptors. In these nodal points there is potential for
> emotional regulation and conditioning.
> 
> 
>       LG: So we are programmed to be able to repeat
> emotional experience and we can access it through the body
> in many ways. What happens to emotions that are not able to
> be fully expressed?
> 
> 
>       CP: I have a whole theory about this. I believe that
> emotion is not fully expressed until it reaches
> consciousness. When I speak of consciousness, I include the
> entire body. I believe that unexpressed emotion is in
> process of traveling up the neural access. By traveling, I
> mean coming from the periphery, up the spinal cord, up into
> the brain. When emotion moves up, it can be expressed. It
> takes a certain amount of energy from our bodies to keep
> the emotion unexpressed. There are inhibitory chemicals and
> impulses that function to keep the emotion and information
> down. I think unexpressed emotions are literally lodged
> lower in the body.
> 
> 
>       In my mind, there are levels of integration. You are
> integrating lower brain areas when you move the emotion up
> and get it into consciousness. That's where you begin
> comprehension. I often tell a story in my lectures. I show
> a picture of a woman with hot coffee, who has dropped the
> cup and burned herself. She reacts to the scalding coffee
> by being startled and feeling pain. The emotional reflex
> moves up and up and up the body. When it finally gets to
> the level of the thalamus she says, "Oh, it's
> hotter than it usually is." But then I make a joke. I
> say, "It's only when it gets all the way up to the
> cortex that she can actually blame her husband."
> That's where we put the whole spin on it. Unexpressed
> emotions are buried in the body -- way, deep down in the
> circuitry of the organs, or the GI tract, or a loop in a
> ganglium. We even know what the memory storage looks like.
> It's protein molecules coupled up to receptors. Some
> thought it only gets stored in the brain. But it looks like
> that in the body, too. Your memories can get stored that way
> in a pancreas, for example.
> 
> 
>       LG: There is a belief that unexpressed emotion is
> harmful to the mind and body. IF you haven't fully
> grieved a loss, for example, your weakened immune system
> might make you a candidate for an illness, like cancer. How
> do you understand it, as a scientist?
> 
> 
>       CP: It think there is overwhelming evidence that
> unexpressed emotion causes illness. I'm a molecular
> Reichian!
> 
> 
>       LG: Reich had a model of working with emotion that is
> sometimes called the "conflict model" of
> catharsis. He thought there were two psychic forces at work
> in every individual. One is the force that wants to express
> emotion. The other is the force that seeks to prevent its
> expression, which he termed resistance. He thought the
> pressure of the two forces caused stasis, so his therapy
> techniques were designed to exhaust and weaken the
> resistance, to allow emotional expression to occur.
> 
> 
>       CP: I see it this way. The raw emotion is working to
> be expressed in the body. It's always moving up the
> neural access. Up the chakras, if you will, but really up
> the spinal chord. The need to resist it is coming from the
> cortex. All the brain; rationalizations are pushing the
> energy down. The cortex resistance is an attempt to prevent
> overload. It's stingy about what information is allowed
> up into the cortex. It's always a struggle in the body.
> The real, true emotions that need to be expressed are in the
> body, trying to move up and be expressed and thereby
> integrated. That's why I believe psychoanalysis in a
> vacuum doesn't work. You are spending all your time in
> your cortex, rather than in your body. You are adding to
> the resistance.
> 
> 
>       LG: You suggest a vertical model of catharsis,
> letting the emotion move up the body, perhaps finding ways
> to relax the cortex to allow the unexpressed emotion to be
> first experienced and then cognitively integrated.
> 
> 
>       CP: Let the emotion all bubble up. Let the chips fall
> where they may. My personal experience using catharsis was
> with the New Identify Process. I think the NIP bonding
> might serve to relax the cortex and let the emotion come
> through. I believe that the process of catharsis is not
> complete without saying things, because we must involve
> speech and the cortex, to know that the emotion has come
> all the way up and is being processed at the highest level.
> To feel and understand means you have worked it all the way
> through. It's bubbled all the way to the surface.
> You're integrating at higher and higher levels in the
> body, bringing emotion into consciousness.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>       Candace Pert, Ph.D. was the keynote speaker at the
> 1995 ISNIP Conference, September 23, 1995  
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
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