[GJM] Fw: Please read and suggest other ways to coordinate action: (was: Words for the wise (important)

[mary rose]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Robinson" <danrob at efn.org>
To: "mary rose" <maryrose333 at att.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Words for the wise (important)


 Certainly if I agree with everything in a book, or if I disagree to
 the point of not understanding it, I won't learn from it.

 How would I ever know to what degree my subconscious beliefs match or
 don't match my conscious goals and dreams? Success or lack of it also
 depends on circumstances of the external world.

 True, I'm never "single minded", always with many thoughts, goals and
 dreams. To be otherwise would seem to greatly limit in what I could
 accomplish.

 It didn't mention costs. (Oops, yes, $695. Must be for CEOs and such
 who really need it). I don't think it would appeal to me, but it's
 worth considering.

 Dan

Dear Dan, I really empathize with you re: the costs of
these seminars and workshops where perhaps the
material is delivered with more clarity than is possible
here on the Internet.  But, it is my hope and desire that
given time, we can accomplish Online what is accomplished
at live events, even more quickly and with better results.
And, at no, or very minimal cost so that everyone has
access to the information so vitally needed today. .

It is my honest feeling that social and cultural transformation
is a "must" at this time if we are to survive the "unprecedented
in human recorded history challenges, as the human family.
We have for too long, accumulated very bad "habit patterns"
(holodynes") in our sub-conscious mind that run our lives today,
but are totally "unrecognized" by the conscious mind as they run
"under the radar" so to speak.

We're talking about things like how we have let the monetary system take
control of our lives, rather than us controlling the system.  We're
talking about being programmed to "live to eat" rather than "eating
to live". We're talking about only seeing "war" as being the path
to "peace" not peace itself -- how ridiculous.

What we are really speaking of here is "systems management,"
and relatively speaking, "management" is a concept new to the
human family.  And while we may more easily understand how
to apply systems management to, say, "our ecosystems in order for
more people to have a higher standard of living based on Earth
values," it is still foreign for us to think in terms of managing our
emotions naturally through learning how to control the output of
neuropeptides such as endorphins and oxytocins, so that life is
more peaceful for us, which, in turn makes the world more peaceful. .

Dr. Woolf is currently featuring some online courses in
Holodynamics, and, at a reasonable price, but which may still
be beyond the means of many, especially in this economic
downturn where the costs of everything are going up, up, up.
Check out his website for availability on these.
www.holodynamics.com

But, I do understand very clearly that we all need this "new"
information today, and that it is something that we should
not have to pay for since it applies to all of us, and whether
we have access to it or not, will in the end, inevitably determine
whether any of us survives.

It is very much as Thomas Berry says:  "We will go into the
future as a single sacred family or we will perish in the desert."
But, at the same time, there is recognition that those who have
the new information available today, and are able to disseminate
it effectively for the benefit of others, have to cover their present
expenses and be compensated in some way for their "learning
curve" time of the past when they incurred a great deal of expense
while obtaining the information themselves. .

But, I do believe that in order to "in-form" everyone, it is necessary
for us to turn to both Internet and TV, and to DVD and video formats.
Of course, You Tube is helping many obtain a lot of information
as are the DVDs currently available.  Certainly, Bruce Lipton
has a lot of information available on DVD's where he graphically
presents information in a way that may be easily assimilated dependent
upon the viewer.  And they are affordable to almost everyone -- a
group can go in together and purchase them, incurring very little
expense in so doing, and coupled with the ability to get further information
here by presenting questions to the Co-learner's group, of which Bruce
Lipton is a member, is an option to attending a life seminar, if it is cost
prohibitive for someone truly interested.

I do believe that DVD presentations in private homes and small alternative
theaters are the best way to go as this format allows for group discussion
afterward.  As well it provides for group support in facilitating the
transformation process that takes place as a result of new information
being assimilated by the group. .

And, of course, we have a precedent set here on the Co-learner's
List for the effectiveness of this approach.  Mary Nelson, along with three 
other
people, presented, for four years staight on a weekly basis, related 
documentary
movies, in a local theatre in Nevada City, CA. The presentations were then
followed by a facilitated discussion.

This action very much supports the concept I have been promoting for the
formation of a Community Learning and Information Center network into which
communities worldwide could be invited and limited in number only by the
number of communities in the world. And simultaneous transformation could be
taking place in an unlimited number of communities at one and the same time.
The network would be connected via the Internet and a website.

But one of the main problems here is getting people to obtain and view
the necessary information. Like a horse, we can lead one to water, but
can't make it drink. I live in a community that is beyond belief in the 
state
of denial in which many live. But, I am also cognizant that this is due to 
the
"pathology of dissociation" (among other pathological states) in which most
in this community live today.  Much of the thinking here is embedded in
"Well this is the way we've always done things and it's too late to change
now," or "Well God created this, and its the way He wants it, and there
isn't much I can do about it."  And breaking through this type of 
"faith-based
God-programming" is almost, if not, impossible, to accomplish.

One of the things that I very much realize is the danger that Dr. Rima 
presents
in the form of CODEX, as it threatens the very ability of any of us to 
protect
ourselves through natural means.  And discussions such as this will 
certainly
not be permitted under CODEX, and I doubt very much whether presentations
by people like Dr. Lipton or Dr. Woolf will be permitted.  And certainly 
natural
products such as those of Dr. Patrick Flanagan will be banned, as we are 
forced
to used chemical pharmaceuticals manufactured by companies like Monsanto.

And I am talking about not only in the U.S. but in Europe and the rest of 
the world
as well.

Dr. Rima, may I suggest that you get in touch with Mary Nelson
and have a conversation about how to do the private home showings and where
she obtained her source of movies, and also a good source of videos.  And, 
then,
beginning with a showing on CODEX, if there is one available, begin to 
encourage
private showings around the world among your circle of influence  in order 
to get
enough people together to stop CODEX, and begin taking action on other 
issues
as well. I will send you Mary's e-mail address in another message after 
gaining her
permission to do so.

Once started then other members of the list with large circles of influence 
could
then be persuaded to assist you in getting this going.

So serious are the implications for CODEX that it would not surprise me at 
all if
the intent of it could not be stretched to prohibit research into things 
like alternative
energy resources, so great is the push for nuclear power. .

with love and in gratitude, Dan for all that you do and all that we do 
together as
Co-learners.

mary rose

We must be the change we wish to see in our lives.

       .

      . .

.    .   .


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> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:02 PM
> Subject: Words for the wise (important
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> In other words you can read the book cover to cover and say yes, yes, yes 
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