[GJM] Fw: [FixGov] Fw: [globalnetnews-summary] Starbucks has a bitter plan Apologies Link Correction

[robert searle]

--- On Thu, 3/7/08, robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [GJM] Fw: [FixGov] Fw: [globalnetnews-summary] Starbucks has a bitter plan
To: "Discussion Forum for Global Justice" <discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
Date: Thursday, 3 July, 2008, 10:41 AM







Dear All,
 
 
          It seems that Bill Ellis has "seen the light", and realized that it costs money to feed the millions starving to death each year. The solution ofcourse, and many other relevant matters is my project TRANSFINANCIAL ECONOMICS.
 
 
       http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Transfinancial_Economics
 
 
The above link has been updated throwing more depth, and light on the subject.
 
 
R.Searle      

--- On Thu, 3/7/08, mary rose <maryrose333 at att.net> wrote:

From: mary rose <maryrose333 at att.net>
Subject: [GJM] Fw: [FixGov] Fw: [globalnetnews-summary] Starbucks has a bitter plan
To: "Discussion Forum for Global Justice" <discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>, FixGov at yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 3 July, 2008, 1:12 AM



Bill Ellis writes in part:  
 
"There could still be a market system for other foods. Those wanting to 
eat meat, imports and other exotic foods should be allowed to buy it."
 
mary rose:  Really!!!! So, let's just continue the process of colonialization
with the wealthy being able to do as they choose while the poor people
suffer is what you are saying here -- the rich elite still need to have their 
privileges? Why haven't you included illegal drugs in this list?  
 
It seems to me that decisions have to be made "in the best interests of
all concerned,":and how can it be in the best interests of all concerned to
eat meat when 1) raising cattle for beef production is now found to be the 
number one contributor to greenhouse gases.  And, 2) cycling grain through
cattle is a very inefficient means of food production -- millions more people 
could be fed is beef were eliminated from our diet.  And, 3) meat-eating has 
been found to increase the risks of incurring heart disease and cancer 
substantially.  
 
The same is true of production for export of exotic fruits, of which coffee is
one. Export for sale of exotics deprives people of the developing world the
right to land for subsistence, and is therefore a driving factor behind worldwide
migration which had reached the rate 100 million people in 1997. I do not 
have the current figures, but they must be much higher now. 
 
Looks to me like you are trying to promote special interest groups here. 
Maybe you should run for Congress. 
 
And, if you feel I am being harsh, I'm still thinking about that young lady
we saw on the video yesterday, taking us adults to task, and rightfully so. 
Maybe you should watch that message again. 
 
with love and in gratitude for all that you do, Bill, and for all that we do together. 
 
mary rose 
 
We must be the change we wish to see in our lives. M. Gandhi.  I think that 
means 'walking our talk'.            
 
. 
 
  


 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bill Ellis 
To: FixGov at yahoogroups.com 
Cc: Discussion Forum for Global Justice 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FixGov] Fw: [globalnetnews-summary] Starbucks has a bitter plan






On 02, Jul 2008, at 3:22 PM, mary rose wrote:

> ... The great American lifestyle has to go ... [SNIP]

BE:
I challenge this statement.
The problem is not food production. The world already produces twice 
the food calories needed for an adequate diet and could produce even 
more. The problem is money. Food costs money. It is part of the 
world market.
What is needed is a two level global food system. Every person on 
Earth should be given free food for and adequate diet.
That amount of food should be a human right. That is the global free 
food level. Small local gardens should be supported by and for all of 
us

There could still be a market system for other foods. Those wanting to 
eat meat, imports and other exotic foods should be allowed to buy it.

IMHO
Bill Ellis
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/AGaianPara digm/files/

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