[GJM] #854, Kohler And Cook on #853, Re, [FixGov] THE COMING END OF DEMOCRACY?

[wesburt at juno.com]

Hi Folks,

Things are looking up.  "The powers that be" are slowly 
becoming aware that the wrong policy (TWP) of the 
last 113 years amounts to genocide done slowly.  But, 
eventually, without a change of policy, TWP amounts 
to genocide done completely.

I am in debt to Messrs. Kohler And Cook for the only 
two responses to #853 from my copy list of ten mail lists 
and forty individual addresses.  But again, I am pleased 
that folks at topica.com are back on my side of this debate, 
and have distributed #853 to four lists at topica.

Dear Urban, 
I agree completely with your analysis of our
present condition, but your analysis is incomplete. 
Our money system (FRS +  Banks) serves both our 
private and public sectors, but only our private sector 
"works like a charm." and has been copied so widely 
that we now have a One World private sector.  As we 
know, money gets power and power corrupts absolutely, 
if public opinion does not remain sovereign.  

As I have tried to show before, the optimum policy 
(TOP) has been the proprietary knowledge of our 
Emperors, Kings, Bishops, CEOs, day traders, 
celibate priests, gay men, and lesbian women since 
the beginning of time.  Everybody who counts learns 
TOP at his mother's knee, but our public schools do 
not teach it to the public.  This may account for the rise 
in "home schooling," but it would be better to teach 
the optimum policy in our public schools.  Who would 
object, after they realize that TWP continued will 
make the USA a third world nation.  Again, Urban, our 
corporations are not too powerful, our local governments 
need to follow Adam Smith's First Maxim Of Taxation, 
to reach parity with our private sector and share in the 
abundance produced by our private sector.  As you say, 
there will be enough for everybody, even as we moderate 
our wasteful consumption.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear Richard,
Of the many accomplished authors on the Internet, 
such as; James Cumes, Jerold Hubbard, John Bunzl, 
Richard K. Moore, Robert Searle, Rodney Shakespeare, 
Geoffrey Gardiner, Dick Eastman, and W. Curtiss Priest, 
to name just a few, you are the only author who, in 
less than a year, has concisely explained where the 
necessary economic stimulus must be applied, to be 
effective.  That is to say, it must be applied where it 
has been missing for the last 113 years in the USA. 
 In your recent post to Global Research CA., you 
wrote in part:     
        "In reality, the government should give people 
        much more money to spend than has been 
        proposed or even conceived of—but not through 
        more government borrowing from the Federal 
        Reserve. 
              As this writer has argued, the first thing that 
        should be done—today—is to pay each individual 
        in the nation an average stipend of $12,600 as a 
        National Dividend, based on the overall appreciation 
        of the economy due to harnessing the forces of 
        nature and technology.  
              This stipend should be tax-free and should be 
        paid now, without further delay. It would not be 
        inflationary, because it would be a credit against 
        the actual productivity of the nation and our ability 
        to produce goods and services at will if people 
        could afford to buy them."
~~~~~~~ End Excerpt from Mr. Cook's recent post ~~~~~

I have tried to put some numbers on the inner structure 
of the USA private sector, as follows:
WSB  
[$12,600/year X 300 million = $3,780 Billion/year = 27% 
of our July 2007 $13,970 Billion/year GDP economy.]
The amount of money used by the "real economy" is:
July 2007 M1    = $1,371 B
Sept.  2007 M1 = $1,395 B
Jan.    2008 M1 = $1,363 B ($30 Billion decline of M1 
since September 2007, as you say.

Looking at C. H. Douglas' A and B flows, as quantized 
by Wassily Leontief in his 1966 book, "Input-Output 
Economics:"
M1c-A = ($13,970 B)/(26 billing periods/yr) = $537B
M1c-B = ($13970 Bx1.5)/(52 billing periods/yr) = $403B
Total M1c = 940B, M1 reserve held by households 
and corporations = $431B =31% of M1. 

I worry that extending the National Dividend to the 
present work force may weaken their "work ethic."
Then what would we do?  Since human workers are 
about 90 to 95% efficient (output less subsistence cost)/
(output) their "no load loss" would not be so important 
for meeting the requirements for a free market as the 
"no load loss" of 40% efficient steam power plants.  But, 
the preproduction costs of development must be removed 
from the competitive variable cost data in both cases.
Below the forwarded messages from Urban and 
yourself I have added a copy of my only post, of 853, 
to get a response from "the powers that be."  They held 
M1 nearly constant at $1200 Billion for eight years, just 
to prove that the real economy could be held free of the 
speculative economy which lives on M2, M3, and debt, 
plus enough M1 to cover take home pay on Wall Street. 

Kind regards,

Wes Burt
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Forwarded Message #1 ~~~~~~~~ 
lurbankohler at yahoo.com>
To: FixGov at yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:28:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: #853, Re, [FixGov] THE COMING 
END OF DEMOCRACY?


Thanks Wes, for organizing and commenting 
on some good and relevant materials. I can't 
always follow all of your explanations , but I 
share what I think is your strong belief that 
our money system could be improved.

I especially like the CH Douglas quote about
resentment of that idea being akin to the 
resentment felt by anyone challenging 
religious dogma . . .

But I am puzzling over this quote from 
your last paragraph: . .. "The US private 
sector works like a charm and produces 
everything for which there is an effective 
demand. . . . . " 

Do you mean to say that's all there is 
to it? I have a sinking feeling it's an 
endorsement of a kind of libertarian 
attitude; that capitalism, free enterprise, 
works best if left alone. I would argue 
that business and corporations have 
been left TOO free to pursue the 
"bottom line" and this is one of the big
flaws --the mistake that Adam Smith 
inadvertantly fostered when he 
proclaimed that self interest would 
sort out and establish values and 
prices appropriate for the greatest 
good of all . . . . etc.

Well it's hard to be both clear and 
concise on such weighty matters, 
but I trust you can give me benefit
of doubt and try to understand what 
I am getting at. 

The above statement about the private 
sector providing so well would seem 
to, for example, encourage cutting the 
last of old growth forests, because 
the wood is so beautiful and useful 
for fine furniture and cabinets, that 
demand is becoming virtually 
unlimited as the supply steadily 
disappears. The resulting price (for
fallen trees) will always over-ride 
any consideration of the lasting 
but not-so-"bankable" value of living 
trees . This I think is the greatest flaw 
of the way our money system now 
works. Because our money is created 
as debt, ownership of treasures, 
enterprises, resources, infrastructure, 
etc. quickly goes into the hands of 
those willing to encumber any of 
these things with the most possible 
debt. Naturally under this kind of 
simplistic plan, natural resources 
that should belong to all earth's 
creatures, are steadily being 
privatized, and property rights being 
a fundamental tenet of "freedom," 
we watch helplessly as our planet
gets depleted and degraded . .  (the 
debt incurred to acquire the trees, 
etc. REQUIRES trees be cut down, 
water metered, finite resources of 
all kinds depleted . . . .)

I really wish I could be more concise 
with this, but if nobody sees what 
I'm saying at this point, I'm sorry . . 
. . --no point in taking it further. If 
anyone DOES see where I am trying 
to take these ideas, please help 
steer me out of the fog!
~~~~~ End Mr. Kohler ~~~~~


~~~~~~~~ Forwarded Message #2 ~~~~~~~~

From: Richard Cook rickycook21 at hotmail.com
To: wesburt at juno.com
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:33:21 -0500
Subject: RE: #853, Re, [FixGov] THE COMING 
END OF DEMOCRACY?

Thanks for the info






To: bruceport at xtra.co.nz; Discussion at globaljusticemovement.net;
FixGov at yahoogroups.com; chdouglas at yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:21:26 -0500
Subject: #853, Re, [FixGov] THE COMING END OF DEMOCRACY?
From: wesburt at juno.com

Dear Bruce,  

Thank you for keeping me on your copy list and for 
your thoughtful and sincere article which might be 
entitled: "Democracy Sucks Without The Law, and 
the US abandoned the Law in the 1890s."  I used 
the FixGov copy of your article for this reply because 
I share with Mary Rose and Bill Ellis their preference 
for a decentralized solution for global problems, rather 
than the centralized solution you propose because 
Western (Anglo/Saxon) Democracy has failed, as 
you say.

You write: "The Euro will become accepted as the 
only global currency, giving the EU universal political 
and economic power."  I agree.  The Euro nations have, 
since World War II, applied the whole Law to their public 
sectors as consistently as the US Corporations have, 
since the 1890s, applied the whole Law to their private 
sector affairs; the public be damned.  [Snipped by WSB]
~~~~~ End Mr. Cook ~~~~~

~~~~~~~~ Forwarded Message #3 ~~~~~~~~

 1994-09-08  #157 TOP
September 8, 1994
To:  Katharine Graham, Daniel P. Moynihan, 
Peter G. Peterson, and others.
Subject:  #157  TOP---The Optimum Policy for 
an Urban-Industrial Society.

Dear Leaders of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR):

        In a very few years the epitaphs on your 
tombstones will all read as follows:

              I saved 3% on my taxes
by destroying 36% of my country's potential GNP.
                 Rest in peace.

        Where is it written in THE WASHINGTON POST, 
in FAMILY AND NATION,in FACING UP, or in THE TORAH 
that Americans must be content with 64% of the 
Swiss standard of living?  I cannot find it!  To the 
contrary, each of those great sources of truth 
proclaims that one Law applies to all men and all 
institutions.  The trouble is, of course, that all 
twelve tribes of Israel received the whole Law at 
Mt. Sinai in 1491 B.C., King Rehoboam of Judah 
abandoned equitable taxation and family values 
in 975 B.C., and ten of the twelve tribes who also 
knew the whole Law were lost to history in 721 B.C.  
Not until 1776 A.D. was the Law partially reinvented 
by Franklin, Jefferson and Paine to assure the
stability and prosperity of an agrarian society.  
Another century passed before the whole Law, TOP, 
The Optimum Policy, covering the Twelve Moral 
Commandments and the proper functions of government 
in an Urban-Industrial society, was reinvented 
in Switzerland and Scandinavia, and a half century 
later, in Japan and Germany under CFR members 
Douglas MacArthur and John J. McCloy, respectively.

        The United States has not made TOP its 
public policy because Thomas Paine, Abraham Lincoln, 
James A. Garfield, John Kennedy, and Bill Clinton 
each made the mistake of attacking a powerful 
vested interest before the benefits of his proposed 
reform were effectively presented to the American 
public.  Without TOP in the public sector of the 
U. S. economy, even with 113 years of TOP in the 
private sector, successful reform of our public 
affairs is technically impossible.  Such U. S. 
government initiatives as "Reconstruction" 1865, 
"Perestroika in Cuba" 1899, "Perestroika in Haiti"
1915, the "New Deal" 1932, the "War On Poverty" 
1964, and "Health Care Reform" 1994 all 
disappointed their proponents because our 18th 
century public policy for an agrarian society was 
not TOP, and is not TOP, for assuring stability, 
justice, and prosperity in today's urban-industrial
society.

        Leaders of the CFR must do for God, Country, 
and their neighbors what they did after World War II 
for Japan, Germany, and their private corporations.

Respectfully,
Wesley S. Burt
~~~~~~~~~~ End WSB ~~~~~~~~~~

   TOP and TWP are cognoscible by sixth graders from
         Fig. 7-9.gif on Dr. W. Curtiss Priest's web site:
          <http://www.epie.org/cyber-soc/default.htm>
 TOP = 100% Capitalism --- TWP = 0 to 50% Capitalism
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