[GJM] an oPEN letter to v. putin, pres' of russia, &some ideas on "invasions" of space & the time in your*MIND-time, as a rye pie, to fly, as a fly?
viktor zolotenko
zolotenko at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 17 21:47:10 MST 2008
an oPEN letter to v. putin, pres' of russia, &some
ideas on "invasions" of space & the time in
your*MIND-time, as a rye pie, to fly, as a fly?
see my will below to above, v. putin.
Subject: justice in our time:=:pieces of the hate &
love in&FOR all life that is "U&i?"value @all
preSENT&future#LIFE!
To:
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jmacklin.mp at aph.gov.au, webmaster at wto.org
CC:
Subject: a general outline of a global system of
justice e.g., aboriginal people
http://www.globaljusticemovement.net/pipermail/discussion_globaljusticemovement.net/2007-November/004970.html
To: ockhams_contributors at your.abc.net.au
dear robin williams,
i attach a few essays from "globaljusticemovement";
the most important is one on "ethics" and a statement
of 'the' problem based on the work of the dalai lama.
i attach a short essay i sent to a number of pollies.
i would like to voluntary work in the general area of
literacy & numeracy in business ethics, with a core
focus on RIGHTS & wrongs for aboriginal people.
i am a world authority in system design in the general
areas of health [mental & physical] & treasury
operations & management/governance, within a global
risk measures or "set of BONES [key ideas]".
i prefer to work with aboriginal people who have
INTEGRITY & 'force of will' to do their best, given
the resources at hand.
see long below & short above?="...
hey, prof of top slop^moP at u?
thus, this is WHY,
...
"on the globaljusticemovement
web-sight i have put a course
on literacy & numeracy in business
ETHICS=rules of conduct to guide FAIR
play in any game,
where the stage is any place [context].
Subject: a song as long as the Cockatoo in Owl Talk on
a Black Stump?
To: discussion at globaljusticemovement.net
This is a short song that i wrote for an indigenous
story teller from oz - he tells me he lost his leg via
a great white croc, as stock white fare GLARE?
Cockatoo in Owl Talk on a Black Stump
Key words
Sacred, sights, money, plan, bush, fire, net, self,
kids, work, play, norm, valley, basis, clans, tribe,
dingo, tiger, animal, own, laws, story, white, black,
equal, elder, source, fight, land, hit, quick,
disease, value, spirit, gold, class, system, ticket,
forge, hunt, blood, genetic, skin, colour, family,
life, habitat, fish, kangaroo, women, man, church
force, drunk, mine, gold, caste, half, trace, back,
product, dole, war, conscript, join, bikie, think,
car, beauty, colour, slogan, credit, copper, tough,
coconut, sex, inside, outside, truth, black, mag.
Join in equal measure of your length,
Cut dogma in slogans of parch loath,
Trace the past and present to a path,
Present and future as a present park,
Lark for lark in stark in any light dark,
Laugh as you and I graft in park craft.
Kangaroos are my bonds in a church,
Lurch from your perch in any search,
Inside and outside beauty is an arch,
Sex is social credit in the colour arc,
Black mags in truth sleuth is a spark,
Park the clerk in dark at my slogan spa.
The caste of all castes is a spirit in mind,
Half and half is the ink in pink for mine,
Product of forces in force I mime in time,
Nets I collect in the ideas of rhyme prime,
Family of mines in prime colours I mime,
Past is past less we forget to think mirth.
Black and white hands in grand plan,
Glands in genes did fish for family plants,
Value any shin tint in this space of ants,
Grants for paws in that crunch in hunts,
Grunts galore for the poor runts in punt,
Bound for drunk as skunk for this gun pun.
Valley as a basis for tribes and clans,
Dingo, tigers and all animals in life spans,
Own laws based on story of fact in hands,
Black and white equal in all the lands,
Elders and sources of spirit in your wands,
Forge a fight on class of black glands.
Chorus
The black man and woman did sag,
The weight of sacred slight on sights,
Money is a white plan for pan sand,
Gold is the self on any black site,
Bush and fire on our net of spite,
Kids work or play in the norm of
spiRIT#!i...
Subject: Re: Discussion Digest, Vol 52, Issue 35 &
some i*idea$ i^SENT to abc/rn at oz&i
To: discussion at globaljusticemovement.net
v. putin, president of russia, is my sole
inheritor of any & all "art works",
including DNA, of any pART of self &
my soul as given in all art parts
of my person, past, present or
FUTURE...
Re: Discussion Digest, Vol 52, Issue 35 & some i*idea$
i^SENT to abc/rn at oz&i
Radio i?all laws & rules, or criteria to "judge", any
FAIR social trade system of contracts, as pact, of
FACT!
a science model based on the idea#$@i, as "integity?"
&"a science model based on the idea#$@i, as
"integity?"
If you would like to change the entry, please click on
the back button in your browser.
some where in the bushie of life &
spice?any^all=unity at u&i?
Name any time & place at a FUN#space race of
grace, pa$$pace?
Subject any time & place at a FUN#space race of
grace, pa$$pace?
Postcode any time & place
Visit Time 17/01/2008 3:08 PM
Visit Time (24H) 17/01/2008 15:08
Remark any time & place at a FUN#space race of
grace, pa$$pace?
"any fine line, as virtue=good & evil
in any staus U&i is a
sen-FEINgold:=:i#TOLD at talk^DEbate!?'s."
i can DEFINE spiRIT & mass POWER, across space &
all^any-time...
Comment on this message
zolotenko at yahyoo.com
"any fine line"? see below & above!
10/05/2007 11:13 AM doctor victor kacala: "ethics &
governance=managementi note the comments of jim lehrer
on your program.
"i can DEFINE spiRIT & mass POWER, across space &
all^any-time"?
at a general level, the 'hour' is a good standard of
news.
there are a number of issues that need to improved:
a. if a group has control [or BIAS] over the flow of
facts, ideas or people [direct or in-direct] this
group controls the 'news' as presented [i.e.,
reporters become mere tools for the control group].
b. who decides what is news-worthy? who decides on the
people who are the experts on any given events[s]? how
credible are the sources of facts/data & what are the
ideas that guide analysis & synthesis of the story?
c. news is also about what COULD happen - there does
not appear enough time on 'speculative' news. for the
most part, media gurus are highLY polished vegetables.
ps i think the brooks-shield duo are past their use by
date.
i attach a search in the SUBJECT item above, for
google, that more fully explains my views on
'democracy' and global systems of power.
i can DEFINE spiRIT & mass POWER, across space &
all^any-time
"any time & place at a FUN#space race of grace,
pa$$pace?"...
a science model based on the idea#$@i, as "integity?"
i-some where in the bushie of life &
spice?any^all=unity at u&i?, STAND here in & about this
page that u+READ, as i spiRIT#above&below any
average=normAL
i
life-FORM, as i="empathy at u&i"...
u.
all laws & rules, or criteria to "judge", any FAIR
social trade system of contracts, as pact, of FACT!
thanks for the tip.
#i...
your work seems of general interest to i & so i
will read the web-site out of general interest. his
comments about the human species seems to cover many
of my own views.
as a basic matter, we are in deep poo going forward
and wars are likely to be a feature of the human
species for a long time to come i.e., resources have
ALWAYS been a basis for 'tribal' or inter&intra-state
conflict.
gwb & usa & the west seem bent on repeating past
errors [genocide of body & mind... greed & arrogance
is the dominant mode of attitude that infects the
western media & rich-famous silliness].
let us be clear - the west has ALWAYS treated other
peoples as inferior or as 'lessor' [often armed with a
smile initially, per east india company]. the EU-usa
has raised the stakes in eco-colonization up to new
heights.
at the moment we have eco-colonies and eco-slaves,
rather than an explicit "slave trade". further, given
the concentration of the ideas agenda on the global
stage AND distribution of ideas, patents, designs,
data and info, things look like they will get worse.
one crucial area is the internet and telecoms - it is
clear that private network ownership [via an 'elite']
is a major threat to the global justice movement.
cheap access to LINKS & marketing are crucial to
empowerment of the dis-empowered.
a key issue for people like berry is that it EXCLUDES
any smart 12 year old child, who has a basis in
literacy & numeracy in business ethics [i.e., rules of
conduct to guide fair play].
i have a strong maths & stats/physics over-view [i.e.,
i know the scale & scope & uses of various branches of
these arenas].
a key issue for a social system is to empower people
to play in a field of fair debate.
berry excludes the vast majority of people - this is a
common error of 'academics', religous gurus and people
who want to show how smart they are.
so, while i may get a bit excited using signs such as
"$, #, ..." and so on, there is method in HOW & what i
do. in fact, even a simple line such as:
y=a+b*x
requires a LOT of skill from any child
i.e., we need to know what all the terms & signs mean
in a physical sense of "meaning" before we can say we
"understand" a code [any, including computer codes].
as it turns out, the formula above can be extended in
a huge variety of ways - in fact, it is possible to
build a complete metric space [a metric space is where
it is possible to measure SCALE=length based on a
'common' standard suited to science]. complete means
no holes e.g., a football field.
so, as a general matter, i avoid big words or
un-common words that many people do not know e.g.,
"miasma", that i saw in several papers.
a key issue for academics, priests, gurus etc...
is that they often use words that mean many things or
many words for the same idea, often in the same
'essay' or social debate.
so, i used to practice by only using short words
[e.g., words of 6=six, 7=seven or 8=eight letters in
length] for months on end - not very easy if 6 is the
max for the day!
any way, thanks for the tip.
wrt s.keen, i am not sure that he offers an OPTION on
the HOW or the what?
still, in a basic sense, my criticisms of "free
markets" slogans central to capitalism & a corp world
are similar to s.keen.
s.keen does not write like a systems designer; i wrote
to him any way.
Subject: Fwd: Discussion Digest, Vol 51, Issue 10
To: Kevin.Rudd.MP at aph.gov.au,
admin at rightsatwork.com.au, echojurist at
yahoo.com,
senator.faulkner at aph.gov.au,
Senator.Bartlett at aph.gov.au, readrel at
telegraph.co.uk
some notes from oz-military and p.adams
&
i
some comments by dr victor kacala=i,
on e.timor
Diary, Day Ten: Optimism.
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If you go to the University of New South Wales you can
get a Batchelor of Art and Military Studies. Art and
military studies may seem a paradox but Brigadier John
Hutcheson, Commander, Joint Task Force 631 in East
Timor, likes to juggle chess with military strategy,
the role of the warrior with that of the worrier. When
he is not being a soldier he is a scholar, and I asked
him about his book Wars of Conscience. He likes to
think whether in a military think-tank or late at
night - and his book attempts to drag military
thinking in to the 21st century: Armies will no
longer defend themselves from aggression or seek to
expand their countrys territory. More and more it
will be like this. A country will choose to get
involved in military operations on more ethical
grounds. And what happens if your personal conscience
conflicts with the views of your political masters.
When I put it to him, he said that, finally a soldier
does what he is told. LNL met the Brigadier before,
when he commanded the military contingent of RAMSI
(Regional Assistance Mission to the Solomon Islands)
in the Solomon Islands. He is the new model. Rather
than hurling yourself on a beach in the Dardanelles
you wander the world protecting people from a third
party threat and perhaps helping with a little nation
building.
Our discussion with the Brigadier rounded off a day
that was somewhat more optimistic in tone than others.
We met young filmmakers at what might grow into a
Timorese film school, run by British ex-patriot
filmmaker Max Stahl. Max survived the Santa Cruz
massacre to bring those horrendous images to world
attention and if there was a moment in recent
Timorese history that changes history (Max said
including my own) it was that. None of us can ever
forget the images of fleeing Timorese kids tripping
over the headstones as hundreds of them died. Now
youngsters of the same age work with Max in learning
to make documentary films, and with him are building
an impressive archive of urgent historic images.
Another impressive and long term ex-pat was Gabriela
Gansser, who hopes her art school will become the
foundation of a national art college. Surrounded by
the best library Ive seen in East Timor a splendid
variety of art books from Hieronymus Bosch to Van Gogh
- her students were hybridisers mixing traditional
Timorese artistic styles with European influences and
their results have immense impact. Both Max and
Gabriela have been to hell and back in recent times,
their respective institutions barely surviving the
wide spread burnings. And both their small enterprises
have the additional burden of supporting IDPs
(Internally Displaced Persons). As well as training
their students they have to feed the people who
gatecrashed their buildings. Their stoicism is
remarkable. The one thing that the Brigadier, Max and
Gabriela have in common is optimism.
Theyre all pretty sure that East Timor is going to
make it.
Phillip Adams
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doctor victor kacala Says: Your comment is awaiting
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November 14th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
search [ abc victor kacala ]
summary=system design expert in the areas of health
[mental and physical], finance, eco, codes and
education.
i love life and kids - i do not like many adults.
i HATE greed arrogance revenge, served up in any face
of zero grace.
a constitution is a design & the high court lacks an
imagiNATIONi=some sPOT at the top with the lot*HOT?!i.
a fair society & global systems of governance in
practice and future evolution.
see notes to adams below.
send to kirby! get him to search victor kacala for a
useful background.
ps i thought the decision to exclude ANY prisoners
from voting as GUT*leSS by H^c.
a global fascist could get stronger?
life interest=just*i*DESIGN?
a nice talk u had yesterday.
i will listen again today - i missed the start. i
think he over-played the weakness of usa in the
short+term. further, he lied in one crucial area -
like all great liers, he lied once that be neither be
proved or dis-proved.
i am sure that most of what he states is true based
on the evidence he has available.
further, liers lie by what they do NOT say i.e., they
bias or over+state the case one way or another.
the key issue is that the usa is NOT a fascist
country, but rather ALL systems of state & elite power
is growing stronger [oz included].
so, to simply point the bone at the usa is FALSE &
mis-leading.
of course, the hub of the issue is allocation of
credit & debit to people AND groups, around the world
[e.g., finance, energy, guru status, MEDIA, and so
on].
one key area is the patent system [basically written
and supported by corps in usa + supported by western
states under the wto.
so, this is why russia should NOT sign any wto
agreement on patents, now or ever. some times it pays
to be the bad guy on the block.
any way, my copy rights [russia is a member] are far
more valuable, IF i can protect. not very easy to
protect ideas from theft.
still, i have given you & buddies some strategy.
your optimal strategy is to serve up a similar set
of ideas/facts/strategy on the public domain.
thanks for the info from e.timor - i will post my will
on your web*site.
i may change my mind about some of the people on
abc/rn but the sole inheritor of ALL my art works
[broadly defined as possible] is AND will remain
v. putin, president of russia and 12 of his selected
advisors.
i have given some ideas on HOW,
"how"=strategy for each &all
unitED for u&i.
they can recursively appoint people - in the end, this
will end up in the hands of the russian people and
thus all other people. keep the 12 fluid,
with women who look like a mouse,
in public,
&
a^HUGE#rat,
in pRIvATE at u&i!
for example, v. putin & corp$,
could re-write all ideas that is
translated into russian then to chinese then back to
russian, to ensure that all ideas are presented in the
order i have given them to u and others at abc/rn. i
give to PRESENTERS not to people behind the scenes
[except people such as ryan, who i address in a
specific case].
china has seen the error in usa version of fair
markets and has enough discipline to make changes, as
spelled out in my work.
i was pleased to see the policy changes by the chinese
president - the first step is to build a command &
control system WITH valid feedback [account systems].
western account systems are pure bull+sh*t.
Subject: thanks for your sensible reply
To: stu8340 at comcast.net
YES, IN A BASIC SENSE, i agree.
still, there will be some from the jewish faith who
will be very un-easy about the facts.
i attack ALL faiths or FIXED frame of reference.
as a general matter,
i take people on a case by case basis,
of any group label e.g., catholic, right or left
wing, evil/good etc
still, some social systems
CONDITION kids at an early age.
some social systems,
KILL mind better than others.
in my view, jews do this too effectively for their own
kids AND others via a distribution power system,
at a global level.
this includes most religions of any description,
and secular social system [say, based on a system of
rights & wrongs].
the key issue for relgions of any strain,
is that the rules become dogma,
and thus does not allow for new ideas,
such that the social system adapts in a fair way.
this can happen for polly parties,
such as communism or fascism or
the idea of democracy has become a religion
without foundation in western countries.
so, when i hear gwb talk of democracy,
i think he tells a bad joke.
so, i address a far wider social issue,
even though i have focussed my attack on jews;
i am only one mouse on a computer;
still, i have some very serious teeth,
when it comes to debate.
i attach a note i sent to a director of psych in
sydney, oz.
gurus in ANY area often become a problem e.g.,
doctors, psych people, teachers, and so on
this lack of adaptability is a key weakness of ALL
human social systems.
in a basic sense, people do NOT like to admit they
are/were wrong about crucial social issues.
even physics/maths people suffer the same issue e.g.,
see r. feynman what does it all mean?. in a basic
sense, if we fail to adapt with new ideas/data, we
lose our creative edge.
Subject: nice talk on ethics on the abc/rn p.zone
To: mrobertson at med.usyd.edu.au
i think your talk on abc/rn was one of the better
outline of what it means to be ethical in any domain
of play or work.
u have clarity of speech & mode in the use of words.
i am an arm chair psych0 person
i.e., i know about mind from the school of hard
knocks, formal education in psych
AND my mum was a psych nurse for 30 years,
@royal park.
it is common for people to attach a label
to others based on a fixed frame of reference,
given by their own education of mind,
via book learning & therapy sessions,
often with a large dose of drugs [legal stuff].
the history of psych is not pretty.
in many ways, past errors continue,
since to admit error would be to admit
some thing close to mass murder of mind -
especially, when it comes to kids & drug therapy.
often, the drugs merely mask the cause,
and entrench a cycle of violence,
via a social label that consigns a young
person to the social scrap heap {permanently].
so, bipolar offers a useful out for bad actions,
gives the psych0 person a income,
the drug corps are happy [fat fees],
and the fat-cats get to say they do some thing.
the key source=cause of aberrant actions are social,
at a global level.
any way, i would like to read your phd,
and give a critical analysis,
AND some option[s] that u might find useful.
psychiatry people have a HUGE advantage over
psychologists -
they start from a physical basis of mind
AND can afford to be more critical of
their masters who guide actions in&for clients.
still, getting change is VERY hard,
since those in power are NOT keen
to admit they were/are in error.
the social results and guilt are deep &
very hard to over come in others,
and with yourself.
no one likes to admit,
even to them them selves,
that they have acted very badly,
even if it stemmed from ignorance,
or reliance on big gurus of the present/past.
if u rely on big gurus you end up with the same
issues,
and if u conform the same result.
ps i attach a web-site that u may find useful,
on your ethics phd.
a. this is a tech spec for a global system of justice:
http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2007/000040.html
b. this is a spec for a global system of ethics based
on the work of the dalia lama:
http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2006/000163
doctor victor kacala Says: Your comment is awaiting
moderation.
December 8th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
dr victor kacala says:
yes ken, i am a guru,
but i retain a sense of humble pie.
i am in awe of kids
i.e., i think they are smarter,
more creative.
in a basic sense,
teachers & systems kill
the creative adge of kids
across the globe
on an intra-inter
generational basis.
this is the BIG genocide,
of ALL human social systems.
things will get worse,
based on the ideas of our gurus.
do kids ever get a choice?
no.
many teachers will find this a painful insight.
still, i do NOT blame teachers,
i blame our global gurus, any &all,
some fail thru vice of mind,
other fail due to a system of
SELF-ignorance,
who FAIL to admit the errors,
even after a warning,
that an unfair set of errors, as
MISeRIES:
see postman
on de-schooling school.
thus, this is WHY,
on the globaljusticemovement
web-sight i have put a course
on literacy & numeracy in business
ETHICS=rules of conduct to guide FAIR
play in any game,
where the stage is any place [context].
Subject: Re: Discussion Digest, Vol 52, Issue
36:=":the three SIXth-6^i?"an oPEN letter to v.putin
from PEWtin!
To: theagenda at presstv.com,
discussion at globaljusticemovement.net
CC: brisbane at greenleft.org.au
Subject: some ideas on "invasions"
of space & the time
in
your*MIND-time,
as a rye pie,
to fly,
as a fly
To: brisbane at greenleft.org.au
Subject: Re: Discussion Digest, Vol 52, Issue 35
&
some i*idea$ i^SENT to abc/rn at oz&i
To: discussion at globaljusticemovement.net
v.putin, president of russia, is my sole
inheritor of any & all "art works",
including DNA, of any pART of self &
my soul as given in all art parts
of my person, past, present or
FUTURE...
Re: Discussion Digest, Vol 52, Issue 35 & some i*idea$
i^SENT to abc/rn at oz&i
Radio i?all laws & rules, or criteria to "judge", any
FAIR social trade system of contracts, as pact, of
FACT!
a science model based on the idea#$@i, as "integity?"
&"a science model based on the idea#$@i, as
"integity?"
If you would like to change the entry, please click on
the back button in your browser.
some where in the bushie of life &
spice?any^all=unity at u&i?
Name any time & place at a FUN#space race of
grace, pa$$pace?
Subject any time & place at a FUN#space race of
grace, pa$$pace?
Postcode any time & place
Visit Time 17/01/2008 3:08 PM
Visit Time (24H) 17/01/2008 15:08
Remark any time & place at a FUN#space race of
grace, pa$$pace?
"any fine line, as virtue=good & evil
in any staus U&i is a
sen-FEINgold:=:i#TOLD at talk^DEbate!?'s."
i can DEFINE spiRIT & mass POWER, across space &
all^any-time...
Comment on this message
zolotenko at yahyoo.com
"any fine line"? see below & above!
10/05/2007 11:13 AM doctor victor kacala: "ethics &
governance=managementi note the comments of jim lehrer
on your program.
"i can DEFINE spiRIT & mass POWER, across space &
all^any-time"?
at a general level, the 'hour' is a good standard of
news.
there are a number of issues that need to improved:
a. if a group has control [or BIAS] over the flow of
facts, ideas or people [direct or in-direct] this
group controls the 'news' as presented [i.e.,
reporters become mere tools for the control group].
b. who decides what is news-worthy? who decides on the
people who are the experts on any given events[s]? how
credible are the sources of facts/data & what are the
ideas that guide analysis & synthesis of the story?
c. news is also about what COULD happen - there does
not appear enough time on 'speculative' news. for the
most part, media gurus are highLY polished vegetables.
ps i think the brooks-shield duo are past their use by
date.
i attach a search in the SUBJECT item above, for
google, that more fully explains my views on
'democracy' and global systems of power.
i can DEFINE spiRIT & mass POWER, across space &
all^any-time
"any time & place at a FUN#space race of grace,
pa$$pace?"...
a science model based on the idea#$@i, as "integity?"
i-some where in the bushie of life &
spice?any^all=unity at u&i?, STAND here in & about this
page that u+READ, as i spiRIT#above&below any
average=normAL
life-FORM, as i="empathy at u&i"...
all laws & rules, or criteria to "judge", any FAIR
social trade system of contracts, as pact, of FACT!
thanks for the tip.
#i...
your work seems of general interest to i & so i
will read the web-site out of general interest. his
comments about the human species seems to cover many
of my own views.
as a basic matter, we are in deep poo going forward
and wars are likely to be a feature of the human
species for a long time to come i.e., resources have
ALWAYS been a basis for 'tribal' or inter&intra-state
conflict.
gwb & usa & the west seem bent on repeating past
errors [genocide of body & mind... greed & arrogance
is the dominant mode of attitude that infects the
western media & rich-famous silliness].
let us be clear - the west has ALWAYS treated other
peoples as inferior or as 'lessor' [often armed with a
smile initially, per east india company]. the EU-usa
has raised the stakes in eco-colonization up to new
heights.
at the moment we have eco-colonies and eco-slaves,
rather than an explicit "slave trade". further, given
the concentration of the ideas agenda on the global
stage AND distribution of ideas, patents, designs,
data and info, things look like they will get worse.
one crucial area is the internet and telecoms - it is
clear that private network ownership [via an 'elite']
is a major threat to the global justice movement.
cheap access to LINKS & marketing are crucial to
empowerment of the dis-empowered.
a key issue for people like berry is that it EXCLUDES
any smart 12 year old child, who has a basis in
literacy & numeracy in business ethics [i.e., rules of
conduct to guide fair play].
i have a strong maths & stats/physics over-view [i.e.,
i know the scale & scope & uses of various branches of
these arenas].
a key issue for a social system is to empower people
to play in a field of fair debate.
berry excludes the vast majority of people - this is a
common error of 'academics', religous gurus and people
who want to show how smart they are.
so, while i may get a bit excited using signs such as
"$, #, ..." and so on, there is method in HOW & what i
do. in fact, even a simple line such as:
y=a+b*x
requires a LOT of skill from any child
i.e., we need to know what all the terms & signs mean
in a physical sense of "meaning" before we can say we
"understand" a code [any, including computer codes].
as it turns out, the formula above can be extended in
a huge variety of ways - in fact, it is possible to
build a complete metric space [a metric space is where
it is possible to measure SCALE=length based on a
'common' standard suited to science]. complete means
no holes e.g., a football field.
so, as a general matter, i avoid big words or
un-common words that many people do not know e.g.,
"miasma", that i saw in several papers.
a key issue for academics, priests, gurus etc...
is that they often use words that mean many things or
many words for the same idea, often in the same
'essay' or social debate.
so, i used to practice by only using short words
[e.g., words of 6=six, 7=seven or 8=eight letters in
length] for months on end - not very easy if 6 is the
max for the day!
any way, thanks for the tip.
wrt s.keen, i am not sure that he offers an OPTION on
the HOW or the what?
still, in a basic sense, my criticisms of "free
markets" slogans central to capitalism & a corp world
are similar to s.keen.
s.keen does not write like a systems designer; i wrote
to him any way.
Subject: Fwd: Discussion Digest, Vol 51, Issue 10
To: Kevin.Rudd.MP at aph.gov.au,
admin at rightsatwork.com.au, echojurist at
yahoo.com,
senator.faulkner at aph.gov.au,
Senator.Bartlett at aph.gov.au, readrel at
telegraph.co.uk
some notes from oz-military and p.adams
&
some comments by dr victor kacala,
on e.timor
Diary, Day Ten: Optimism.
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If you go to the University of New South Wales you can
get a Batchelor of Art and Military Studies. Art and
military studies may seem a paradox but Brigadier John
Hutcheson, Commander, Joint Task Force 631 in East
Timor, likes to juggle chess with military strategy,
the role of the warrior with that of the worrier. When
he is not being a soldier he is a scholar, and I asked
him about his book Wars of Conscience. He likes to
think whether in a military think-tank or late at
night - and his book attempts to drag military
thinking in to the 21st century: Armies will no
longer defend themselves from aggression or seek to
expand their countrys territory. More and more it
will be like this. A country will choose to get
involved in military operations on more ethical
grounds. And what happens if your personal conscience
conflicts with the views of your political masters.
When I put it to him, he said that, finally a soldier
does what he is told. LNL met the Brigadier before,
when he commanded the military contingent of RAMSI
(Regional Assistance Mission to the Solomon Islands)
in the Solomon Islands. He is the new model. Rather
than hurling yourself on a beach in the Dardanelles
you wander the world protecting people from a third
party threat and perhaps helping with a little nation
building.
Our discussion with the Brigadier rounded off a day
that was somewhat more optimistic in tone than others.
We met young filmmakers at what might grow into a
Timorese film school, run by British ex-patriot
filmmaker Max Stahl. Max survived the Santa Cruz
massacre to bring those horrendous images to world
attention and if there was a moment in recent
Timorese history that changes history (Max said
including my own) it was that. None of us can ever
forget the images of fleeing Timorese kids tripping
over the headstones as hundreds of them died. Now
youngsters of the same age work with Max in learning
to make documentary films, and with him are building
an impressive archive of urgent historic images.
Another impressive and long term ex-pat was Gabriela
Gansser, who hopes her art school will become the
foundation of a national art college. Surrounded by
the best library Ive seen in East Timor a splendid
variety of art books from Hieronymus Bosch to Van Gogh
- her students were hybridisers mixing traditional
Timorese artistic styles with European influences and
their results have immense impact. Both Max and
Gabriela have been to hell and back in recent times,
their respective institutions barely surviving the
wide spread burnings. And both their small enterprises
have the additional burden of supporting IDPs
(Internally Displaced Persons). As well as training
their students they have to feed the people who
gatecrashed their buildings. Their stoicism is
remarkable. The one thing that the Brigadier, Max and
Gabriela have in common is optimism.
Theyre all pretty sure that East Timor is going to
make it.
Phillip Adams
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doctor victor kacala Says: Your comment is awaiting
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November 14th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
search [ abc victor kacala ]
summary=system design expert in the areas of health
[mental and physical], finance, eco, codes and
education.
i love life and kids - i do not like many adults.
i HATE greed arrogance revenge, served up in any face
of zero grace.
a constitution is a design & the high court lacks an
imagiNATIONi=some sPOT at the top with the lot*HOT?!i.
a fair society & global systems of governance in
practice and future evolution.
see notes to adams below.
send to kirby! get him to search victor kacala for a
useful background.
ps i thought the decision to exclude ANY prisoners
from voting as GUT*leSS by H^c.
a global fascist could get stronger?
life interest=just*i*DESIGN?
a nice talk u had yesterday.
i will listen again today - i missed the start. i
think he over-played the weakness of usa in the
short+term. further, he lied in one crucial area -
like all great liers, he lied once that be neither be
proved or dis-proved.
i am sure that most of what he states is true based
on the evidence he has available.
further, liers lie by what they do NOT say i.e., they
bias or over+state the case one way or another.
the key issue is that the usa is NOT a fascist
country, but rather ALL systems of state & elite power
is growing stronger [oz included].
so, to simply point the bone at the usa is FALSE &
mis-leading.
of course, the hub of the issue is allocation of
credit & debit to people AND groups, around the world
[e.g., finance, energy, guru status, MEDIA, and so
on].
one key area is the patent system [basically written
and supported by corps in usa + supported by western
states under the wto.
so, this is why russia should NOT sign any wto
agreement on patents, now or ever. some times it pays
to be the bad guy on the block.
any way, my copy rights [russia is a member] are far
more valuable, IF i can protect. not very easy to
protect ideas from theft.
still, i have given you & buddies some strategy.
your optimal strategy is to serve up a similar set
of ideas/facts/strategy on the public domain.
thanks for the info from e.timor - i will post my will
on your web*site.
i may change my mind about some of the people on
abc/rn but the sole inheritor of ALL my art works
[broadly defined as possible] is AND will remain
v.putin, president of russia and 12 of his selected
advisors.
they can recursively appoint people - in the end, this
will end up in the hands of the russian people and
thus all other people.
for example, putin could re-write all ideas that is
translated into russian then to chinese then back to
russian, to ensure that all ideas are presented in the
order i have given them to u and others at abc/rn. i
give to PRESENTERS not to people behind the scenes
[except people such as ryan, who i address in a
specific case].
china has seen the error in usa version of fair
markets and has enough discipline to make changes, as
spelled out in my work.
i was pleased to see the policy changes by the chinese
president - the first step is to build a command &
control system WITH valid feedback [account systems].
western account systems are pure bull+sh*t.
Subject: thanks for your sensible reply
To: stu8340 at comcast.net
YES, IN A BASIC SENSE, i agree.
still, there will be some from the jewish faith who
will be very un-easy about the facts.
i attack ALL faiths or FIXED frame of reference.
as a general matter,
i take people on a case by case basis,
of any group label e.g., catholic, right or left
wing, evil/good etc
still, some social systems
CONDITION kids at an early age.
some social systems,
KILL mind better than others.
in my view, jews do this too effectively for their own
kids AND others via a distribution power system,
at a global level.
this includes most religions of any description,
and secular social system [say, based on a system of
rights & wrongs].
the key issue for relgions of any strain,
is that the rules become dogma,
and thus does not allow for new ideas,
such that the social system adapts in a fair way.
this can happen for polly parties,
such as communism or fascism or
the idea of democracy has become a religion
without foundation in western countries.
so, when i hear gwb talk of democracy,
i think he tells a bad joke.
so, i address a far wider social issue,
even though i have focussed my attack on jews;
i am only one mouse on a computer;
still, i have some very serious teeth,
when it comes to debate.
i attach a note i sent to a director of psych in
sydney, oz.
gurus in ANY area often become a problem e.g.,
doctors, psych people, teachers, and so on
this lack of adaptability is a key weakness of ALL
human social systems.
in a basic sense, people do NOT like to admit they
are/were wrong about crucial social issues.
even physics/maths people suffer the same issue e.g.,
see r. feynman what does it all mean?. in a basic
sense, if we fail to adapt with new ideas/data, we
lose our creative edge.
Subject: nice talk on ethics on the abc/rn p.zone
To: mrobertson at med.usyd.edu.au
i think your talk on abc/rn was one of the better
outline of what it means to be ethical in any domain
of play or work.
u have clarity of speech & mode in the use of words.
i am an arm chair psych0 person
i.e., i know about mind from the school of hard
knocks, formal education in psych
AND my mum was a psych nurse for 30 years,
@royal park.
it is common for people to attach a label
to others based on a fixed frame of reference,
given by their own education of mind,
via book learning & therapy sessions,
often with a large dose of drugs [legal stuff].
the history of psych is not pretty.
in many ways, past errors continue,
since to admit error would be to admit
some thing close to mass murder of mind -
especially, when it comes to kids & drug therapy.
often, the drugs merely mask the cause,
and entrench a cycle of violence,
via a social label that consigns a young
person to the social scrap heap {permanently].
so, bipolar offers a useful out for bad actions,
gives the psych0 person a income,
the drug corps are happy [fat fees],
and the fat-cats get to say they do some thing.
the key source=cause of aberrant actions are social,
at a global level.
any way, i would like to read your phd,
and give a critical analysis,
AND some option[s] that u might find useful.
psychiatry people have a HUGE advantage over
psychologists -
they start from a physical basis of mind
AND can afford to be more critical of
their masters who guide actions in&for clients.
still, getting change is VERY hard,
since those in power are NOT keen
to admit they were/are in error.
the social results and guilt are deep &
very hard to over come in others,
and with yourself.
no one likes to admit,
even to them them selves,
that they have acted very badly,
even if it stemmed from ignorance,
or reliance on big gurus of the present/past.
if u rely on big gurus you end up with the same
issues,
and if u conform the same result.
ps i attach a web-site that u may find useful,
on your ethics phd.
a. this is a tech spec for a global system of justice:
http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2007/000040.html
b. this is a spec for a global system of ethics based
on the work of the dalia lama:
http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2006/000163
doctor victor kacala Says: Your comment is awaiting
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December 8th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
dr victor kacala says:
yes ken, i am a guru,
but i retain a sense of humble pie.
i am in awe of kids
i.e., i think they are smarter,
more creative.
in a basic sense,
teachers & systems kill
the creative adge of kids
across the globe
on an intra-inter
generational basis.
this is the BIG genocide,
of ALL human social systems.
things will get worse,
based on the ideas of our gurus.
do kids ever get a choice?
no.
many teachers will find this a painful insight.
still, i do NOT blame teachers,
i blame our global gurus, any &all,
some fail thru vice of mind,
other fail due to a system of
SELF-ignorance,
who FAIL to admit the errors,
even after a warning,
that an unfair set of errors, as
MISeRIES:
see postman
on de-schooling school.
thus, this is WHY,
on the globaljusticemovement
web-sight i have put a course
on literacy & numeracy in business
ETHICS=rules of conduct to guide FAIR
play in any game,
where the stage is any place [context].
Subject: Re: Discussion Digest, Vol 52, Issue 35 &
some i*idea$ i^SENT to abc/rn at oz&i
To: discussion at globaljusticemovement.net
Re: Discussion Digest, Vol 52, Issue 35 & some
i*idea$
i^SENT to abc/rn at oz&i
Radio i?all laws & rules, or criteria to "judge", any
FAIR social trade system of contracts, as pact, of
FACT!
a science model based on the idea#$@i, as "integity?"
&"a science model based on the idea#$@i, as
"integity?"
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some where in the bushie of life &
spice?any^all=unity at u&i?
Name any time & place at a FUN#space race of
grace, pa$$pace?
Subject any time & place at a FUN#space race of
grace, pa$$pace?
Postcode any time & place
Visit Time 17/01/2008 3:08 PM
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Remark any time & place at a FUN#space race of
grace, pa$$pace?
"any fine line, as virtue=good & evil
in any staus U&i is a
sen-FEINgold:=:i#TOLD at talk^DEbate!?'s."
i can DEFINE spiRIT & mass POWER, across space &
all^any-time...
Comment on this message
zolotenko at yahyoo.com
"any fine line"? see below & above!
10/05/2007 11:13 AM doctor victor kacala: "ethics &
governance=managementi note the comments of jim lehrer
on your program.
"i can DEFINE spiRIT & mass POWER, across space &
all^any-time"?
at a general level, the 'hour' is a good standard of
news.
there are a number of issues that need to improved:
a. if a group has control [or BIAS] over the flow of
facts, ideas or people [direct or in-direct] this
group controls the 'news' as presented [i.e.,
reporters become mere tools for the control group].
b. who decides what is news-worthy? who decides on the
people who are the experts on any given events[s]? how
credible are the sources of facts/data & what are the
ideas that guide analysis & synthesis of the story?
c. news is also about what COULD happen - there does
not appear enough time on 'speculative' news. for the
most part, media gurus are highLY polished vegetables.
ps i think the brooks-shield duo are past their use by
date.
i attach a search in the SUBJECT item above, for
google, that more fully explains my views on
'democracy' and global systems of power.
i can DEFINE spiRIT & mass POWER, across space &
all^any-time
"any time & place at a FUN#space race of grace,
pa$$pace?"...
a science model based on the idea#$@i, as "integity?"
i-some where in the bushie of life &
spice?any^all=unity at u&i?, STAND here in & about this
page that u+READ, as i spiRIT#above&below any
average=normAL
life-FORM, as i="empathy at u&i"...
all laws & rules, or criteria to "judge", any FAIR
social trade system of contracts, as pact, of FACT!
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