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> Today's Topics:
> 
>    1. Re: Paula Gloria and Robert Ashford!! (Zack
> Johnson)
>    2. Re: #852, Steve Consilvio On The just war
> theory (Steve Consilvio)
>    3. Re: Fwd: World Trade Organization - WTO
> hearings on Zeroing
>       dispute opened to the public (E. Crockett)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:37:29 -0500
> From: "Zack Johnson" <zackjohnson at louisiana.usa.com>
> Subject: Re: [GJM] Paula Gloria and Robert Ashford!!
> To: "Discussion Forum for Global Justice"
> 	<discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
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>  Steve, you write:
> 
> "Robert Ashford states that 'once you understand
> that capital creates its
> own capital'..."
> 
> You really are a goosey little fellow, aren't you? 
> Ashford never said
> the words you attribute to him, not anything even
> close.  It's just
> something you, not Ashford, dreamed up.  What he
> talks repeatedly of is
> "the right to acquire capital with the earnings of
> capital."
> 
> And your continual rants are just laughable.  For
> example, the ludicrous
> point about the economy being a "zero sum game."
> 
> Just look around you my friend.  Smell the coffee. 
> Wake up.  See all the
> stuff that exists, the furniture in your room, the
> streets outside, the
> buildings, factories and farms all around you.  That
> stuff exists, and
> was created through economic activity.  It is the
> stuff of civilization.
> 
> A "zero sum" economy is the economy of mosquitoes,
> not conscious human
> beings who build from generation to generation.
> 
> Zack
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Steve Consilvio"
>   To: discussion at globaljusticemovement.net
>   Subject: Re: [GJM] Paula Gloria and Robert
> Ashford!!
>   Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:19:10 -0500
> 
>   Robert Ashford states that "once you understand
> that capital creates
>   its own capital," and that using computers has
> made it easier to make
>   money.  This is true, but not new. [snipped]
> 
> -- 
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> Money Portal
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> From: Steve Consilvio <steve at behappyandfree.com>
> Subject: Re: [GJM] #852, Steve Consilvio On The just
> war theory
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> There is nothing particularly Catholic about "just
> war theory," it is  
> simply an expression of fear.  In fact, all legal
> agreements are  
> based on fear.  If you go back and look at the
> treaties between the  
> colonies in Massachusetts and Rhode Island that were
> made by the  
> Puritans, for example, they are based on the fear of
> the Native  
> Americans.  They were too self-righteous to live
> together, but they  
> found common ground in their fears of the "savages."
>  Implied by the  
> treaty is that it is "just" to defend yourself and
> kill your  
> attacker.  This, of course, is the exact opposite of
> Jesus' teaching  
> of "turn the other cheek."  These treaties were well
> reasoned, and  
> not made under duress.  While it is understandable
> that somebody may  
> react to violence with violence in the heat of the
> moment, these  
> "learned" expressions (treaties generally) are the
> best examples of  
> the propaganda of hypocrisy.  The unwise and
> powerful are always  
> documenting their fears.
> 
> A better way to understand this is that the fears of
> the individuals  
> become the laws of public policy.  People want the
> government to  
> "protect them," so they can avoid doing the dirty
> work themselves.   
> Of course, this doesn't end the dirty work, it just
> attempts to  
> sucker somebody else into doing it  (the young
> males.)  Every society  
> always has the same group as their warriors. 
> Parents lie to their  
> kids by teaching them their own fears as truth.  The
> same would have  
> occurred in the society of "barbarians."  Every
> society is the same.   
> The colonists attacked the natives, the natives
> attacked the  
> colonists.  New neighbors or old, fear and mistrust
> always finds the  
> same expression.  Those who fear the same thing form
> a group to  
> protect themselves against the other group.
> 
> In other word, Just War Theory is an expression of
> groupthink, but it  
> is based on the fears that individuals have. 
> Because they fear  
> losing their life and property, they are willing to
> risk their life  
> and property to defend it.  This is the dividing
> point between the  
> spiritually dead and the spiritually alive.  You
> cannot tell the  
> difference by looking at a person, but the struggle
> can be exposed in  
> what they say.  Every society has this fault line,
> and even every  
> family.  (The story of Pocahontas, for example, and
> her father the  
> chief who simply wanted to kill John Smith.)  There
> are many stories  
> of those who seek to kill and those who seek peace
> in every society.   
> The dividing point is fear.  Those who love their
> enemy have no  
> enemies, whereas those who fear their enemies never
> run out of  
> enemies to fear.  The contrast could not be more
> greater, and this  
> contrast seeps into everything.
> 
> The Declaration of Independence, and Osama's lettter
> to America, are  
> both expressions of just war theory.  They all come
> down to "it is  
> better for you to die and for me to live."  Just war
> was also the  
> intellectual bedrock of Hitler's Final Solution.
> 
> Every war is the same; it is two fascist's fighting
> one another.   
> Both believe in just war.  They are actually
> battling their mirror,  
> not their opposite.  It is important to realize that
> it is not  
> countries, groups, parties, races or religions that
> go to war, it is  
> simply individuals who are afraid acting in unison.
> 
> Fear forms all public policy, which is why
> Libertarians seem so crazy  
> to the status quo of Democrats and Republicans. 
> Liberals and  
> Conservatives have codified all their fears into
> laws, whereas  
> Libertarians fear the laws themselves.  (A funny
> story: I once  
> attended the state party convention for the
> Libertarian Party.  They  
> confiscated my hand-outs and spent most of their
> time talking about  
> by-laws and taking pledges.  I never appreciated
> Orwell so much as on  
> that day.  Doublethink, groupthink and paranoia are
> the occupational  
> hazards of all public endeavors, even of this group.
>  It is very hard  
> to create a community of free-thinkers, who lack
> fear, and who have a  
> consensus.  Even Jesus couldn't do it with the
> Apostles.  They locked  
> themselves into a room after He was crucified.
> 
> All the locks and security in the world cannot keep
> out fear.  People  
> carry fear within themselves, and there is no escape
> except letting  
> it go.  Compounding the problem is pride.  People
> are proud of  
> defeating their fears, which reinforces that what
> they fear should be  
> feared.  Americans, for example, are proud of
> defeating the English,  
> slave-holders, the Germans and the Japanese, but
> look at what it took  
> to do so.  Now everybody is a slave of the federal
> government, we are  
> the colonizing imperialists, and we were more
> ruthless than the  
> Germans and the Japanese.  They only way to defeat
> somebody  
> militarily is to be more ruthless than them.  Hitler
> was an  
> inefficient killer, that is why he lost.  We are
> experts at it; we  
> drop a nuke and do in seconds what he needed years
> to accomplish.   
> The victor should be aghast at what he was capable
> of doing, but  
> instead he is proud of what he did.  Men like the
> Swift Boat Morons  
> are petrified of their mirror, and so are afraid of
> any criticism of  
> the Vietnam War.  They don't want to see themselves
> as they really  
> are (invaders,) they want to keep the fiction alive
> that they are  
> heroes, just like their mommies and daddies told
> them before they  
> left.  We need to love our parents, but not the lies
> they taught us.   
> They make mistakes just like we do.
> 
> The only good thing about war is that the ones who
> survive are given  
> a second chance.  Every war ends because the ability
> to wage war is  
> eventually destroyed.  Only the rich wage war,
> because they have both  
> the means and the motive to do so.  The tighter they
> try to hold onto  
> their fears, the more they eventually lose.  A
> closed fist is like a  
> closed heart.  It is important to recognize that the
> wealth people  
> accumulate was first also a reflection of their
> fear.  (The rich fear  
> to be poor, the poor fear to stay poor.)  The king
> lives well while  
> the peasants struggle.  Every war is a civil war,
> and it spreads as  
> other nations get involved.  The disparity in wealth
> is an economic  
> phenomenon, but its roots are in fear and legal
> contracts.  The Earth  
> belongs to God or to all men, yet men write deeds
> that claim they  
> have authority over men and land.  They use force to
> make the claim,  
> and they use force to defend the claim.  How insane
> is it to use  
> force to defend a peace treaty?  Yet that is how the
> world works.   
> There is nobody to "enforce" a peace treaty.  The UN
> is an attempt to  
> have a government that watches over all governments,
> but then who  
> will watch the UN?  The paper trail just keeps
> growing to new heights  
> of absurdity.
> 
> Without virtuous men, there can be no virtuous
> society.  The wise do  
> not need to be governed, and the unwise cannot be
> governed.   
> Religions, governments and businesses are all based
> on the same chain  
> of authority, and the authority is based directly or
> indirectly on  
> fear and pride.  Just War theory is not just
> Catholic, or just  
> applied to war.  It finds its way into politics as
> democratic theory  
> (the majority rules) and in economic theory (right
> to property and  
> profit.)  All are similarly based on "what is good
> for me is best."
> 
> It is, afterall, a pretty crazy idea to turn the
> other cheek in  
> business or politics or war.  "What will stop the
> fear, pride and  
> greed of men if I don't use my strength to overpower
> them?"  The 10  
> Commandments are rules of personal behavior.  Men
> will either follow  
> them or not, but we need to be most concerned with
> if we follow  
> them.  The public laws of men are all written as
> exemptions from the  
> commandments, just as just war theory is a
> philosophical exemption.   
> It is legal to kill men, kill babies, print money,
> make profit,  
> charge interest, evict families, imprison people,
> pollute, and  
> confiscate (tax,) under every legal system.   All of
> these things  
> have their root in trade and in the concepts of
> money and value.  The  
> rules of war are the same as the rules of trade:
> Kill first and  
> protect yourself.  While some Catholics may be
> enslaved by this  
> thinking, there is nothing uniquely Catholic about
> it.  Ideas rule  
> the world, and the same ideas (good and bad) are on
> many tongues,  
> regardless of age, position, culture, possessions,
> etc.  We are all  
> imperfect men living in an immoral world.  Bad ideas
> always arrive as  
> good ideas, by virtue of their being new (to us,)
> but eventually they  
> fail.
> 
> The commandments really do represent all the wisdom
> man has ever  
> known, or needed.  It is impossible to improve on
> perfection, but it  
> is easy to deny anything.  Just War Theory denies
> the commandments.   
> In fact, it denies the very purpose of religion,
> which is for men to  
> live in peace and plenty.  To love your enemy is the
> test for  
> salvation, but it is also good policy.  God doesn't
> want to spend  
> eternity with a bunch of frightened self-righteous
> hypocrites.  He  
> didn't tell His Son to be a warrior, and to kill
> other sons.  And  
> when God took the eldest from every family in Egypt,
> he was just  
> trying to make a point.  The Jews were probably
> hated, and respected,  
> as a result.  (Their God was real, not just a rock.)
>  Jews don't  
> follow the commandments any better than the
> Christians or the  
> Muslims, deists or atheists.  Everybody has a just
> war theory, and  
> none of them are true.
> 
> We all reap what we sow.  So I try to sow love and
> forgiveness and  
> mercy, because I want it for myself, too, and for
> everyone.
> 
> FYI: I am not saying anything new.
> "If you are willing and obedient, you will eat the
> best from the land;
> but if you resist and rebel, you will be devoured by
> the sword."
> For the mouth of the Lord has spoken. - Isaiah
> 1:19-20
> 
> Utopia awaits our acceptance.  We are in the Garden
> of Eden, but many  
> cannot see it.  We continuously re-enact Cain
> slaying Abel instead.   
> The more righteous a man is, the more jealous others
> are.  It was no  
> accident that Jesus and Socrates were condemned by a
> government.   
> Governments (ie, the people that control them) are
> as afraid of  
> virtue as they are afraid of hypocrites like
> themselves.  Between the  
> two, there is always an apostate or heretic or
> barbarian or demon to  
> "justly" kill, with a government celebration sure to
> follow.  The  
> last war always provides a justification for the
> next war.
> 
> peace,
> Steve Consilvio
> www.behappyandfree.com
> 
> On TuesdayJan 8, 2008, at 6:46 AM, discussion- 
> request at globaljusticemovement.net wrote:
> 
> >> Thanks again Steve.  Please send your comments
> >> also on the role of Catholic Social Theory in
> forming US public  
> >> policy.
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> From: "E. Crockett" <echojurist at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [GJM] Fwd: World Trade Organization -
> WTO hearings on
> 	Zeroing	dispute opened to the public
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> 
> --- robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Dear All,
> > 
> >        I was sent this piece of info by WTO. I am
> > not
> > quite sure why it was sent but it maybe because of
> a
> > comment I possibly made onsite. I am also sure
> that
> > I
> > did not subscribe to their list though I maybe
> wrong
> > but I doubt it. The email address appears to be
> from
> > the WTO en direct rather than some activist, or
> > whoever.
> > 
> > 
> > Robert Searle.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Note: forwarded message attached.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >      
> >
>
__________________________________________________________
> > Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox
> > http://uk.mail.yahoo.com
> > > From: <webmaster at wto.org>
> > Subject: World Trade Organization - WTO hearings
> on
> > Zeroing dispute opened to
> > 	the public
> > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:30:47 +0100
> > 
> > Now on the WTO website.... 
> > La version fran?aise de ce message appara?t apr?s
> la
> > version anglaise
> > La versi?n espa?ola de este mensaje viene despu?s
> de
> > la versi?n francesa
> > 
> > WTO HEARINGS ON ZEROING DISPUTE OPENED TO THE
> PUBLIC
> > At the request of the parties in the dispute
> ?United
> > States ? Continued Existence and Application of
> > Zeroing Methodology? (DS350), the Panel has agreed
> > to start its meeting with the parties on 29
> January
> > 2008 with a session open to public viewing at the
> > WTO Headquarters in Geneva.
> > > News item:
> >
>
http://www.wto.org/english/news_e/news08_e/dispute350_e.htm
> > > Summary of the case DS350:
> >
>
http://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/cases_e/ds350_e.htm
> > > More on dispute settlement:
> >
>
http://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/dispu_e.htm
> > 
> > (Click on the links or copy and paste them into
> your
> > browser.  Alternatively, you can go to our home
> page
> > http://www.wto.org and follow the links.)
> > 
> > TIP: When pages are newly published you might at
> > first have difficulty viewing them. Try clicking
> > your browser's reload or refresh button. If that
> > still does not work, try again a bit later.
> > 
> > 
> > -------------------------------------
> > 
> > OUVERTURE AU PUBLIC D'AUDIENCES DE L'OMC SUR LE
> > DIFF?REND CONCERNANT LA R?DUCTION ? Z?RO
> > A la demande des parties au diff?rend ??tats-Unis
> ?
> > Maintien en existence et application de la m?thode
> > de r?duction ? z?ro? (DS350), le Groupe sp?cial
> est
> > convenu de commencer sa r?union avec les parties,
> le
> > 29 janvier 2008, avec une session ouverte au
> public
> > au si?ge de l'OMC ? Gen?ve.
> > > Nouvelle:
> >
>
http://www.wto.org/french/news_f/news08_f/dispute350_f.htm
> > (temporairement en anglais)
> > > R?sum? de l?affaire DS350:
> >
>
http://www.wto.org/french/tratop_f/dispu_f/cases_f/ds350_f.htm
> > > Pour en savoir plus sur le r?glement des
> > diff?rends:
> >
>
http://www.wto.org/french/tratop_f/dispu_f/dispu_f.htm
> > 
> > (Cliquez sur les liens ou copiez-les sur votre
> > navigateur.  Autre possibilit?, vous pouvez aller
> ?
> > la page d'accueil (http://www.wto.org) et suivre
> les
> > liens.)
> > 
> > UNE SUGGESTION: Si vous avez des difficult?s ?
> > visualiser les pages qui viennent d'?tre publi?es,
> > cliquez sur le bouton "Recharger" ou "Rafra?chir"
> de
> > votre navigateur. Si le probl?me persiste,
> r?essayez
> > un peu plus tard.
> > 
> > -------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > SE ABREN AL P?BLICO LAS AUDIENCIAS DE LA
> DIFERENCIA
> > SOBRE LA REDUCCI?N A CERO EN LA OMC
> > A petici?n de las partes en la diferencia ?Estados
> > Unidos ? Continuaci?n de la existencia y
> aplicaci?n
> > de la metodolog?a de reducci?n a cero? (DS350), el
> > Grupo Especial ha acordado comenzar la reuni?n que
> > celebrar? con las partes el 29 de enero de 2008
> con
> > una sesi?n abierta al p?blico en la sede de la OMC
> > en Ginebra.
> > > Noticia:
> >
>
http://www.wto.org/spanish/news_s/news08_s/dispute350_s.htm
> > (de momento s?lo en ingl?s)
> > > Resumen del asunto DS350:
> >
>
http://www.wto.org/spanish/tratop_s/dispu_s/cases_s/ds350_s.htm
> > > M?s informaci?n sobre la soluci?n de
> diferencias:
> >
>
http://www.wto.org/spanish/tratop_s/dispu_s/dispu_s.htm
> > 
> > (Haga clic en los enlaces o c?pielos y p?guelos a
> su
> > explorador.  Como alternativa, puede ir a la
> portada
> > http://www.wto.org y seguir los enlaces.)
> > 
> > CONSEJO PR?CTICO:  Cuando las p?ginas est?n reci?n
> > publicadas, puede ser que al principio tenga
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> > en el bot?n de refrescar y recargar de su
> > explorador.  Si esto no diera resultado, intente
> de
> > nuevo un poco m?s tarde.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > WTO Webmaster
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Subject: a general outline of a global system of
justice e.g., aboriginal people 
To: jmacklin.mp at aph.gov.au 
    Subject: i can teach you lit & num in BUSINESS
ethics
& some ideas on pieces of peace process?

dear people,

i would like to voluntary work in the general area of
literacy & numeracy in business ethics, with a core
focus on RIGHTS & wrongs for aboriginal people.

i am a world authority in system design in the general
areas of health [mental & physical] & treasury
operations & management/governance, within a global
risk measures or "set of BONES [key ideas]".

i prefer to work with aboriginal people who have
INTEGRITY & 'force of will' to do their best, given
the resources at hand.

i have ten years teach & learn experience in academia;
five years in oz army [gunner];

15 years in industry [gov/banks/NGOs];

b.commerce [honours], master in eco & doctorate in
risk & security systems for treasury operations;

built/tested/sold and improved three treasury
management systems [WATC, NZ Treasury, SBC Warburg];

three years voluntary teaching Maori[nz] management or
governance.

for more details search { abc "victor kacala" }

e.g., 

http://globaljusticemovement.net/pipermail/discussion_globaljusticemovement.net/2007-November/004970.html

http://globaljusticemovement.net/pipermail/discussion_globaljusticemovement.net/2007-December/005035.html

http://globaljusticemovement.net/pipermail/discussion_globaljusticemovement.net/2008-January/005049.html

a. this is a tech spec for a global system of justice:

http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2007/000040.html

b. this is a spec for a global system of ethics based
on the work of the dalia lama:

http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2006/000163.html

i attach some general notes i sent to kevin rudd &
julia gillard & various other people.


see "Day Three: Chooks And Children" at:
http://www.latenightlivetimor.net/?p=19
...
One Response to “Diary, Day Three: Chooks And
Children”
doctor victor kacala Says: 

October 15th, 2007 at 10:27 am
+*************************************************+ 
it is a tragedy that the kids are treated worse than
chooks. chooks get feed to ensure they lay some eggs!
+*************************************************+

see "Day Four: Balibo" at:
http://www.latenightlivetimor.net/?p=20

5 Responses to “Diary, Day Four: Balibo”
doctor victor kacala Says: 
SH*T?
October 4th, 2007 at 2:45 pm 
i would like to work for some one in east timor who
can use my profile.
it is a sad reality that the west is a cess pool of
greed & arrogance.
thus, it is possible a ‘genocide’ could happen again.
e.timor will get ’screwed’ by foreign corps like
others in LDCs,
such as africa, s.america, and so on. the list is very
long.
in order that this does NOT happen,
e.timor needs proper systems in health, education &
finance/treasury.
this is not possible in the west, as there are vested
interests in existing systems of GREED.
thus, unless e.timor [&other LDCs] get valid & fair
systems,
genocide will occur via economics.
search [ abc “victor kacala” ]
summary=system design ‘expert’ in the areas of health
[mental and physical], finance, eco, codes and
education.
i love life and kids - i do not like many ‘adults’.
i HATE greed arrogance revenge, served up in any face
of zero grace.
so, do you have a job in e.timor?
email to “zolotenko at yahoo.com”.

October 13th, 2007 at 1:51 pm 
there is a saying that “the first death in any war is
the truth”. i am not that interested in debate about
who did what to who and who were the masters of a
‘local’ genocide. my guess is that what helen states
is likely to be ‘true’, even if only a part truth of a
war in the making. the ‘real’ villians are unlikely to
be caught. it is also clear that fretilin was armed
and used by ‘western’ states [via a ‘third’ party]. oz
also has blood on its hands [even based on public info
- the other info will dis-appear or be held in secret
files some where]. i have no doubt that ‘catholic’
power brokers [domestic & foreign] were key players in
genocide - of course, heavy hands on innocent people
increased the violence cycle. in the back ground, the
west security services [and foreign corps] were keen
to get their hands on gas & oil linked to e.timor -
the deals done by downer + corps + cronies makes this
clear.
oz and ‘other’ western states [via UN*umbrella of
chastity and fair play] now seem set on an agenda to
exploit e.timor people again using a shield of
catholic vritue + dogma.
the end result is clear.
i see the faces of kids & adult grim pain & grimACE
inside.
a fair system of governance at a national level is
crucial, such that ALL people are included.
e.timor has the same issues as all other states &
families [such as oz & usa & etC].
a basic course in literacy & numeracy in business
ethics, in a COMMON code [language] is crucia;
this could be done in one step, with kids leading the
charge [in ENGLISH].
all terms [words] must have a common meaning suited to
a local context,
with examples in words and pic/fig to suit.
a simple FONETIC english word set would be built,
in order to increase the rate of learning.
creosole is a venom bag, wrapped in a sense of pure
arrogance of
“I KNOW^*i”.
the west has a dominant mode of colonial power via
eco-genocide.
thus, creosole is just one among many who stalk
the power alleys on the global stage,
hidden under a veil of venom as verbal bile.
some file rile as a pile in i*styLE=i.

http://www.indopedia.org/CYK_algorithm.html
http://globaljusticemovement.net/pipermail/discussion_globaljusticemovement.net/attachments/20060503/cf1f9a6b/peaceethics-0001.txt

&

i check
abc "victor kacala"
on the "google"
search engine,
IFF "i am feeling lucky"
in a global CONtext,
conTEXT=CONduct="the ways & means
of the pieces and links
across spACE lace$
?'s.
send idea$ to
any one that suitSS
the set+idea$.

http://www.indopedia.org/CYK_algorithm.html
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