[GJM] Fw: [FixGov] Fw: Long reply from MR (short this time!)

[mary rose]

Urban writes in part: "you look to solve a collective problem by changing individuals. (reprogramming our subconscious)"  

mr:  Oh no, I look not to reprogram anyone.  It is for the individual to choose to reprogram his/her self -- whether or not to look deeper into one's own psyche and choose to go to a higher level of consciousness is "the sacred quest."..  It is for the individual to choose -- that is what is sacred. All I can do is to attempt to walk my path as my "full potential self" and in so doing, perhaps others may choose to walk with me. . And, by walking with one another openly and caringly, we may perhaps, through our entanglement, learn from one another. 

There is nothing to be taught but much to be learned.  

I am holding the field for the fullest potential to unfold in this event now in the best interests of all concerned. .

with love and in gratitude for all that you do, and for all that we do together.

mary rose       


----- Original Message ----- 
From: lurban kohler 
To: FixGov at yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FixGov] Fw: Long reply from MR (short this time!)



--- On Mon, 4/28/08, mary rose <maryrose333 at att.net> wrote:

MR: "Oh dear, I left the cap off the tooth paste tube again,didn't I?" 

Urban: MR, that was your total, off-list response to my note saying you look to solve a collective problem by changing individuals. (reprogramming our subconscious) --unless you are talking about some kind of collective subconscious? I, (Urban) asked what was the organizing principle behind collective human activity. Everyone knows Urban believes money is our de facto organizing principle, and that it is a trap, as recently discussed on fixgov with Clem C.

So MR, the response above shows your usual dismissive attitude about the work people are doing and the conclusions we are reaching regarding the possibility our problems are rooted in how we "do money." Being this way, whether you intend to or not, you seem to want to steer discussion away from certain basic realities. Why?

Urban

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