[GJM] A Report on the Global Financial Meltdown Meeting?

robert searle dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Apr 19 11:53:08 MDT 2008


Dear Peter, and Rodney....et al,

          Thank you for your cooperation on this
matter. Peter as usual made some excellent notes on
the meeting, and they are interesting to read.

R.Searle.


--- Peter Challen <peterchallen at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Sorry - I pressed a button too soon.
> Here the full contribution.
> Peter
> 
> My informal report on the recent conference by
> Global Vision 2000. lies
> below. It has been approved by Moeen Yassen and seen
> by all the speakers, so
> I feel safe in sharing it. A much fuller account in
> expanded papers will
> eventually be available.
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> 
> 
> *GLOBAL FINANCIAL MELTDOWN, SOCIO-ECONOMIC INJUSTICE
> AND WAR: CAUSE AND
> REMEDY – April 5th 2008 'Seeking an alternative
> holistic diagnosis and
> prescription!*
> 
> Welcome and Opening Speeches
> 
> *1. Moeen Yaseen*                 Global Vision 2000
>   *Money terror is
> creeping up on us *
> 
> Dogma – ritual – habit – build up against dynamic
> evolution
> 
> A TV documentary programme called Market Meltdown on
> Islam Channel to be
> prepared for broadcasting in May 2008. A copy will
> be sent to Global Vision
> 2000. We're here to share knowledge in search of
> solutions – demystifying
> economics and finance, claiming experience, study
> and application, no
> distanced expertise. It's a strong agenda – no one
> can sit on the fence!  Truth
> and justice are our vision.
> 
> Various media and at least 6 Muslim and Western
> journalists were blocked
> from coming by their editorial departments e.g. BBC
> World service, Al
> Jazeera, Iranian State TV broadcasting (IRIB, IRNA),
> Press TV and Jazeera
> Magazine.  The Saudi British elite magazine
> mentioned indirectly stated
> privately that the agenda was strong and there was a
> need to take sides as
> either an enemy or friend of the State. This was a
> wrong way to perceive
> matters as the issue is about taking a stand on
> truth and justice. They also
> stated that making money was their main focus! At
> least he was open about
> it. Having said that he was open to publish certain
> "rational and logical"
> contributions.
> 
> *2. Murad Qureshi*   Greater London Authority
> Assembly member
> 
> In London one in four are employed in finance.
> London complements what
> happens in New York
> 
> Economics is not a science but the examination of
> relationships of lenders
> to borrowers
> 
> *Tectonic plates are shifting in the financial world
> while London needs* £10
> bn for the Olympics, £20 bn for Cross Rail and £6bn
> for flood
> defences.  Regulation
> is a must.  Sovereign funds and Islamic liquidity
> play a significant role
> and Sharia funds are developed to attract these
> funds into the 'conspiracy'.
> 
> 
> 
> *3. Lindsey German* - Left list Respect Coalition
> Mayoral candidate.
> 
> A third of all housing deals fall through. Social
> unrest lies ahead under a
> 10% increase in the cost of rice and other food.
> Cost growth in all
> commodities.  UK the 4th richest country but many
> are living in declining
> economic conditions.  £3 billion spent on War while
> the poor, pensions and
> schools are suffering.
> 
> Immigrants built the city and have the same rights
> in its life. The need for
> action is urgent.
> 
> 
> 
> *4.  John Rees* - Stop the War Coalition Convenor
> 
> *Paradigm shift required* as the global society
> enters recession and the
> present paradigm of the neo-libs is seen to be in
> disarray.  First we
> banished the Keynesian post war model, now the
> neo-con model is falling
> apart too.
> 
> Economist a good read of reality because it is for
> an enclosed readership
> and so more honest. Agreeing with very little, the
> account is the harsh
> reality. The boom-and-bust cycle has not ended
> despite the hopes Gordon
> Brown and every 10 years for five centuries it has
> continued identifying
> systemic fault.
> 
> Finance is a brain matching capital to labour  –
> nonsense!
> 
> Economic rules of staying within the discipline
> don't work – all society
> affected.
> 
> *We must be against the competitive economic,
> capital and military system
> and seek democratic control by the majority. A
> massive shift to it can be
> achieved - it needs communities of collaboration *
> 
> 
> 
> Sadly at this point these three opening speakers had
> to leave on business .
> 
> 
> 
> *5   Tarek El Diwany*  - Islamic Finance  "*Why are
> we all in debt?"*
> 
> 
> Central bank power has led us all into debt. The
> deceit of usury and 'inter
> esse' (period in between) is a semantic nicety, like
> calling gambling
> gaming! The transition which followed in
> Christianity is now developing in
> Islam. Islamic banking is a sham. We must tackle the
> fraud of money
> creation. We must face and defeat the world of debt
> in the interest of
> people.
> 
>  Angola's $261 billion now $1144bn
> 
> UK $829 now up $2268
> 
> USA $3501 now $7891
> 
> Debt to GDP ratio from 1.4 to 2.15
> 
> Enormous wealth manifest in profound inequality. We
> must forbid the fixing
> of gain in advance and loans must be set against
> full reserves.  3618bn in
> sight deposits  168,166 in promises.
> 
> Horrendous developments in debt. Honesty about this
> would cause collapse,
> say the public communicators.
> 
> We are trapped in a monopolistic and destructive
> system.
> 
> Banks benefit of all interest created out of nothing
> since Patterson started
> the BofE
> 
> The USA constitution stated only gold and silver as
> the standard - Gold
> holds its value – better than paper.
> 
> In 1914 the British Bradbury was created and then
> lent into the system.
> 
> [All Philip Green's BHS shops on one level at the
> Mall - he took £1.2
> billion return and with a wife in Monaco pays no
> tax!]
> 
> 
> 
> *6   Canon Peter Challen*       CCMJ/GJM
> 
> *"Nothing short of a proposal that works for
> everyone 
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