[GJM] True or False?

[Steve Consilvio]

The government creates currency.  I create money.

What the government wants to collect is money (labor,) but once  
currency is in its possession again, the government cannot separate  
the difference between money and currency.  Neither can most people  
for that matter.

The government also creates money, too, which is an integral part of  
the problem, (or the absurdity) which then forces everyone to create  
money. Creating money is what profit and inflation represent.

If perhaps the government only created currency, then maybe men could  
use money as a system of barter that works.  But once the government  
introduces profit, the system must grow to collapse.  To be more  
historically accurate, the government introduces debt, not profit.   
Every new government is indebted to a financial ally.  The chains of  
the past are never cut loose.  To service the debt, there must be  
profit, and so the dominoes must follow.  Since the government is in  
debt, it wants a share of people's profits.  Once profit is  
introduced, the role of the currency is destroyed, everybody must  
prey on one another to satisfy the government.  However, profit would  
still cause problems even if the government were better at its role.

Imagine, for example, that the pay rate for everyone was $8 a day.   
Everyone was paid the same for work, whether they were a brain  
surgeon or a street cleaner.  As a result, every product would cost  
some fraction of $8.  If a car represented 50 hours of labor, then it  
would cost $50.  Land would be free, since no labor was used to make  
it.  For that to be possible, the use of money as a commodity would  
have to end.  The government has less power than the universities and  
unions and personal pensions financially, but the power to kill keeps  
them afloat.

In any case, creating a solution is different from diagnosing what is  
wrong with the current system.  What we have today is a gigantic  
ponzi scheme going back thousands of years.  Everybody is cost- 
shifting, trying to get new players to "believe," so they can take  
advantage of them.  The generation gap is really a marketplace gap  
between reality and fiction.  Money and currency represent an  
intellectual agreement.  How we count is the problem, not what we are  
counting with; the existence of currency, to date, means that we also  
think we need money (profit,) too.

I'm not sure I explained myself as well as I would like, but the  
overlap between money and currency is a lot like the overlap between  
religion, politics and economics.  One effects the other, even though  
they are different.

peace,
steve
www,behappyandfree.com

On Oct 15, 2007, at 6:22 AM, discussion- 
request at globaljusticemovement.net wrote:

> I don't think Steve understands the difference
> between currency and money.
>
> Dan

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