[GJM] the issues facing the global peACE move$ is simple as abc?

premilla dixit prem.dixit at verizon.net
Tue Nov 20 22:33:58 MST 2007


Copy of letter I sent to VoteVets USA who have set up a web-site where
constituents can hear from all the USA presidential candidates.
> Brandon Friedman
> Iraq and Afghanistan Veteran
> Vice Chairman, VoteVets.org
> Editor, VetVoice.com

Dear Brandon Freedman,

Among the many military voices who spoke for the rights of the soldier and
the veteran of America¹s many wars‹which he led‹there is none like General
Smedley Butler to tell it like it is. He called war a racket then (as it is
now), anticipated the second world war on the heels of the first due to the
in-your-face-evidence, mourned the war millionaires created at the
exorbitant cost to the war veteran and soldier (death, maiming,
psychological trauma,  destruction of families and capacity for livelihood,
and the ultimate exploitation, abandonment at his hour of need upon his
return ³home², to the ³nation² that sacrificed his life); and called for the
abolition of war, and the conversion of the military industrial complex to
produce goods for people¹s needs.

WHAT HE SAID IN 1935 HOLDS MORE TRUE TODAY THAN EVER UNDER CONDITIONS OF
CLIMATE CHANGE, ECOLOGICAL COLLAPSE, AND HUMAN REFUGEE STREAMS IN THE TENS
OF MILLIONS LIKE NEVER BEFORE, 80% OF WHOM ARE WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

It seems like war has a purpose : to kill as many of the poorer classes of
every nation and traumatize the women and children and drive them into the
human ³trafficking¹ market which is burgeoning today. What a fabulous
contribution of ³western civilization² to human life on earth!

WAR: PRODUCTION FOR WAR, WAR, CLEAN UP AFTER WAR-- earths ecosystems are
saying Œwe give up, cant take the exploitation of the human Œway of
life¹‹and war!¹  In less than 70 years we have been destroying at
exponential rates ecosystems like not seen in 65 millions years! And war is
at the center of our destructive way of life, our weapons are increasingly
eroding of ecosystem relationships.

The climate is changing at an enormous acceleration with its own toll on
ecosystems‹and war is spewing-up fossil fuel waste into our damaged climate
cycles, like there is no tomorrow.

So exactly what are VoteVets asking the USA presidential candidates to do?

To set by example, ³facts on the ground² as the military likes to say, a
whole new paradigm shift for the world:resource use and
scientific/technological application and production to meet human needs; no
more build up for endless war?

After all, it is the USA, leading the world to war, compelling even the
poorest nations to embed in the globally booming military industrial complex
at enormous cost to the well being of their people.

So while I deeply admire and respect the thousands of people of conscience
in the USA military we need a million smedley butlers who will do more than
speak and write the truth, WHO WILL ACT ON THE TRUTH.

In this election, the whole truth about America¹s wars must be put on the
table for the USA electorate, and none better to do it than veterans. It is
not as though a conversion program is outlandish and unachievable‹it is
planned, the technology and political will is mobilized the world over and
will catch a fire coming from the USA, most especially in the light of the
MILLENIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS(MDG¹s).
The eminent Lester Brown has PlanB  up on his web-site‹you could link to it
and to the whole globe of conversion plans--
You could link to the Institute for Policy Studies and inform your circle of
friends and supporters that a lot of money waits to be made in the paradigm
shift (from war to peace production) and the demand for ecologically sound
technology is way beyond the supply‹instead of being veterans of illegal
wars you could be veterans of a conversion economy.

Please make this USA election real for our children¹s children. We are in
the last three years of the UN Decade for Non-Violence for our Children
2000-2010(an initiative of the Nobel Peace Laureates); we are in the last
years for meeting the MDG¹s (2015); we are ADULTS BUILDING A WORLD OF BROKEN
PROMISES FOR OUR CHILDREN, LEADING BY WRONG EXAMPLE.

Isn't it time politics faced our will and non-violent power than that we
cow-tow to the violent power of war profiteers?

Best Wishes in your valiant work. May all the military institutions of the
world fall away from human civilization like dead skin, long over-due for a
sloughing-off because we have been dying under its carrion weight.

Its time to emerge as the shining creations we are of our Christian, Muslim,
Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Jain, Zoroastrian, Bahai, and multiple other faith
systems‹even our ³scientific/technological² religion systems of ³rational²
thoughts. May our daily thoughts be anchored in the golden rule :DO NOT DO
UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD NOT HAVE OTHERS DO UNTO YOU, may our words flow in
line with this framing thought, and may our actions follow accordingly. May
our hands and feet cleave to our sides, held there by our towering
consciences should an order come to break our adherence to the Golden Rule.
It is about time in the human world that our actions and aspirations
translate one another.

In Solidarity,
Premilla


On 11/7/07 8:40 PM, "viktor zolotenko" <zolotenko at yahoo.com> wrote:

> based on some ideas of "steve".
> To: steve at behappyandfree.com
> stART with 'empathy' of the 'others'? e.g., poor
> people.
> the issues facing the global peACE move$ is simple -
> the problem[s] has been shown in a number of ways.
> 
> global systems of finance [credit & debit] are corrupt
> &
> rotten to the core - i attach some tech & an outline
> of a system of ethics based on 'elements of justice',
> CUP, 2006.
> 
> the next step, is to FIX global systems of education
> in the areas of lit&num in business ethics - COMMON
> ideas that TRANSFORM, without bias, across ALL
> codes/languages, BASED on the "art of war", delux
> edition, penguin, with THE key idea from the art of
> peace=be biased for the weak in all SOCIAL contracts &
> trade [beware of liers who use 'weak' to abuse this
> attitude e.g., "human rights" groupies]. the focus
> should be on GIVING power to 'locals' who have
> INTEGRITY & COURAGE & potential for 'competence' in
> any area of functional duty].
> 
> do i think gov has the WILL & power to do any thing
> e.g., "world bank"? no. russia, china, japan, germany
> and some other states MAYBE. i have my doubts about
> sarcasm of france [he thinks he is two chip$$ off the
> napoleon block STock].
> 
> so, we know WHAT the problem is & below i have a TECH
> solution that will work. the issue is not whether the
> problem can be solved, the issue is do [at least some
> key players] have the WILL & muscle to MAKE='force'
> the changes on the global system of eco-genocide?
> 
> this is a FIRST step to avoid a global disaster of
> even more pain than at present.
> 
> the key issue that faces this blog site is "who are
> the editors" and who decides who can play the 'game'?
> 
> it is common practice for 'greed' to spoil any
> "happyand free" group via 'spies' - thus, i always
> assume i talk/write to an enemy, as a matter of
> course.
> 
> if u wish to cheer me up [a good idea at any time for
> any one], why not comment on one of my papers?
> 
> a. this is a tech spec for a global system of justice:
> 
> http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2007/000040.html
> 
> b. this is a spec for a global system of ethics based
> on the work of the dalia lama:
> 
> http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2006/000163.html
> 
> c. it would be better to comment on the issues i raise
> rather than banal generalities.
> Subject: able=able*pie in any sky rye as a lie group
> or troop? 
> To: abel at lightnet.co.uk
>     a. thanks, i agree.
> 
> i can be very simple and direct.
> 
> so, i will take your views as 'fair'.
> thank u,
> for your precision,
> and fair & reasonABLE 'order'
> i.e., after all,
> u are the editor.
> 
> so, i think i might send u another
> set of linked ideas.
> 
> the first step must be simple
> e.g., u=i?
> 
> i attach some ideas that u may find useful.
> 
> as a general matter, the human species is in deep poo;
> and as a result, so is all life as we know it.
> 
> the usa and the west have become the key reason why
> this is so i.e., greed of no bound, arrogance of
> 'intelligence' & a dose of revenge on an 'as required'
> basis per 911 wars. greed does not play by any rules
> that are in the public domain.
> 
> at a basic level, we need a common set of ideas to
> serve as a basis for 'fair trade'.
> 
> at the moment we have systemic and entrenched greed
> across the globe. human history is not very 'pretty',
> including oz & usa [who seem to think that 'we have a
> "special" place on the global stage BASED on ideas of
> rights & fair play].
> 
> to single out ANY
> sect/cult/group/state/nation/sex/'race' etC
> is an error of fact
> i.e., {greed arrogance revenge}=evil is blind to
> sex/race/time...
> 
> further, people with this mind 'virus' are not easily
> moved by evidence, facts or reason i.e., a threat is
> often the only thing that gives FORCE to any
> negotiation in any conflict. kids are often 'killed'
> via a mind control social system - some groups are
> better at building "them versus us" than other
> groups/sects. the basic strategy is the "art of war",
> with some 'flair' of any given sect/cult/...
> 
> there is no value in any debate with a HARD
> fundamentalist of ANY creed or breed i.e., reason has
> no room to play with ideas and a FEASIBLE solution
> space for a FAIR [contingent] result.
> 
> b. see some ideas below.
> 
> some ideas on going to "global justice"
> a. some ideas on ethics, govern=manage
> http://www.globaljusticemovement.net/pipermail/discussion_globaljusticemovemen
> t.net/2006-May/003363.html
> b. this is a tech spec for a global system of 'fair'
> markets & some tech fluff to 'confuse the 'enemy'
> http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2007/000040.html
> C. the key problem we have is that greed has the
> resources & 'command & control' structures in place at
> a global level.
> 
> further, any attack on part of this
> system can be diverted into a waste basket with ease
> via legal or illegal means [who defines what is
> 'torture' or illegal actions when u have gwb+cronies
> in place?]. those who write/interpret/enforce and
> determine the flow of 'facts'/idea$/timing determine
> the result$.
> 
> the only real hope is to convince people in power that
> it is in THEIR best interests to adapt.
> 
> i know many of the senators in usa via pbs with jim
> lehrer [biased but i am very good on tone & context &
> key ideas].
> 
> the usa polly system is corrupt & rotten to the core -
> corps + lobby groups plus entrenched arrogance of your
> academics and centres of 'governance' are crucial
> issues. further, the media is dominated by a small
> number of voices [who are very biased & selective
> about what info and data is put on the public domain].
> 
> europe is no better.
> 
> in my view, western polly systems have become the
> globe's worst night mare - i kid u*not.
> 
> i have put my views on these matters on the public
> domain that u can check on "victor kacala" - i add one
> below [from senator bartlett[oz] web*sight].
> 
> it is simple, i can USE my system but cannot build it
> via softwire. greed has a habit of KILLING any and all
> that stand in the road e.g., mlkJNR.
> 
> it is almost certain that asio & afp have Œtabs¹ on me
> [even if they think i am a bit of a Œfruit-cake¹]. i
> made a lot of noise in canberra [e.g., applied for
> polly asylum to russia]; my guess is that afp & asio &
> ruddock [bless his evil heart], Œknow¹ any or all of
> my emails etc.
> 
> i am very useful to them, either way u look at it. i
> create some options that may be useful to them.
> 
> i am very familiar with the way power works in many
> dif social contexts.
> 
> what if some could build an AI machine? how much would
> it be worth? how many people would want such a
> machine?
> 
> so, i have no intent on pulling my stuff into a
> coherent whole - there is no way any one could squeeze
> it out of me [by design by i] but i can & will use it
> going foward.
> 
> my key weak points is lack of quality info [rather
> than views] - thus, i value the views of [say] chomsky
> above cheney/rumsfeld etc. there is three basic ways
> of lying: omit & modify & add.
> 
> great liers lie by telling one lie that cannot be
> confirmed or refuted.
> 
> or, they CONTROL the capacity of any one
> telling/giving evidence that contradicts the lie[s].
> e.g., pbs or abc [j.lehrer or "by design"/rn resp'].
> 
> every time you or any person gets into a given program
> [say within the menu of abc/rn programs], you DESIGN a
> verbal-emotional-pic/fig SToRY with sound drawn from a
> variety of sources.
> 
> the big stage [via tone] is set by the presenter and
> varying levels by Œresearchers¹/producers/gathers of
> data.
> 
> the whole story can be Œtwisted¹ at a number of stages
> e.g., false info/data at a crucial moment in story.
> 
> while your basic plot is premised on ³by design², the
> reality is that the PROCESS of abc/rn programs is a
> [set of] story linked to the basic notion of Œdesign¹
> of a set of linked ideas [on p.zone] or a physical
> outcome of a design process, in any given domain you
> specify.
> 
> in a similar way, i am a designer in the area of
> social systems, with a focus on education, health &
> finance/treasury [debit/credit systems - within a risk
> management framework]. of course, my skill set has
> been built around the idea of an adaptive control
> system [per electrical or chemical engineer, say] with
> valid, accurate, timely, relevant info to guide action
> by one or more people [in order to coordinate ACTION
> or in+action=wait].
> 
> i have built and tested my systems in a treasury
> management context e.g., bank systems are CR$P=SH*T
> across the planet i.e., management decision systems &
> metrics are a self&serve nonSENSE!
> 
> a teacher or a coach or a manager has a lot in common
> with a control system with feedback e.g., this email.
> 
> ³players should have the ATTITUDE that ³i did my
> best²" - that way players can judge them selves and
> ask the coach for help [or others] on an as required
> basis.
> 
> this way the coach acts as a manager of resources for
> players, rather than direct play[s] like a footy coach
> OR a teacher. of course at times the coach MUST make
> the 'best' moves for a player[s] via inter & intra
> exchange, within a 'final' goal of doing as well as
> possible with the resources available, over time.
> 
> in fact, many teachers lack this notion of managing
> the process, rather than control the players. the best
> people to Œunite¹ & focus the players on a task, are
> other players [in private & privacy]. if there is a
> dif of view between players, then the coach can act as
> a moderator/editor on an as required basis.
> 
> thus, great teachers have a lot in common with great
> coaches i.e., get the players to do what they want to
> do within the constraints of basic skills & com
> skills.
> 
> routine can be the death of creativity & a pos passion
> on the field of play.
> 
> god delusions on any play thing at any*time
> 
> the reason is that science & ANY religion are DIF is
> that science has a conceptual MAP to guide REASON,
> based on a set of data, to GUIDE a [set of]
> beliefs/views about physical or social exchange.
> 
> religions have a 'story' that does not, nor can they
> ever be, based on scientific 'method'. sadly, many
> scientists in astronomy have gone into the fairy land
> of a 'story' that can NEVER be either confirmed or
> denied by some sort of evidence. astronomy of the BIG
> bang is pure religion & has no evidence except that
> contrived on the basis of HUGE leaps in some physical
> theory.
> 
> the concept map in ANY & ALL religions is a Œgood¹
> book that guides action & reason [often subject to a
> well-placed mystery & MIRACLE!] in a social system -
> thus, we must make a distinction between social
> science & physical sciences in terms of the QUALITY of
> the evidence & conceptual map[s] to guide inference
> about the area of interest e.g., human body.
> 
> religion has the same general focus on ¹social¹
> exchange systems - the bible & koran & etcŠ are
> written by ¹sub-gurus¹ based on the ideas and life [as
> they see it] of the BIG*%*guru. since people make
> errors in form & content, a good book to guide action
> is a mere story at best, or a HUGE lie at worst. this
> is NOT to say that modern gurus are bad/evil people -
> we are all in a prison of our history & social
> constraints over time.
> 
> C. education & design of mind & reason
> 
> e.g., elements of design of any mind & DEAD +DINGOES+
> 
> what is ¹spirit¹? e.g., soul?
> 
> i heard a guru on the religion report [abc/rn] talk on
> dawkins book & series about "the root of all evil".
> 
> there was a claim that there is no conflict between
> science & religion [in this instance, judaism or
> christianity, in all its various forms & sects].
> 
> people often state that buddhism is a Œreligion¹,
> whereas in fact [based on the ideas of d.lama in
> ³beyond dogmaв it is a theory [with some evidence] of
> mind that has a goal of ³self² happiness.
> 
> there was a key error in the views given by our guru
> [i basically agree that dawkins is a dill who seeks
> fame & fortune]. he claimed that science & religion
> have FAITH as a basis.
> 
> science has EVIDENCE, via some measurable value [with
> error], as support for a conceptual map within a given
> area of research [such as biology, physics etcŠ -
> maths is not really a ¹science¹ and might properly be
> classed as a Œreligion¹=a very useful religion for
> science].
> 
> fundamentalists of ANY description [e.g., maths guru,
> physics theorist, high*PRIEST ETc] have a CLOSED frame
> of reference e.g., i/WE are the world gurus in THIS
> domain. where is the potential for debate?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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