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doctor victor kacala says:
May 29th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
was there a stolen generation? there is ample
evidence, in gov files as policy, that oz was, and
sadly still is, a racially divided country.
@
however, in this case i agree, in pART with the evil
pun-dit. how about looking to the here & now starting
with aboriginal oz people as first among equals? a
good statement would be for oz to have the aboriginal
flag as the OFFICIAL oz flag - this would be a
statement of intent.
@
what should the oz gov DO? i have given an outline to
TIGA=tiger of what could/should be done in the areas
of governance & education & economics. the key step is
to get people of integrity & competence in the
relevant area of duty in a new council.
@
at the moment, white GURUS do NOT empower, but rather
subvert via corrupt payments [i.e., conservation
groups claim they are the good guys] or by taking over
admin functions or are selective in the info they
present as facts. gov should compensate, a FAIR value
for such things as lost wages & lost potential
wealth, based on average oz wealth.
etC..."@"...
this will be expensive only ONCE - this can serve as a
capital base for business as outlined by a number of
ab leaders [esp eco tourism, banking, rangers, art &
fashion etc.].
a key step is to assign ALL copy rights to ALL ab art
works AND genetic material.
ab people are genetically SUPERIOR to us white
people. how do i know? simple. 60 thousand years of
VERY harsh ethnic cleansing by the HARSH oz outback
[per Dune books].
as it turns out, some women i know seem to be aware of
this fact i.e., they had love child & got to keep the
child.
oz ab people are not inferior, they are superior FOR
the oz outback?
is this rascist? no. it is premised on evolutionAry
process, as outlined with gusto by dawkins etC
doctor victor kacala says:
May 29th, 2007 at 2:15 pm
i have just read a book called elements of justice,
2006, CUP. it might be useful if one of your
advisors read this as back ground for any debate
about justice in this arena. do some aboriginal people
lie to gain advantage? of course.
this does NOT de-value very significant social
dis-advantage that was the result of a rascist & harsh
history of gov & social systems [listen to n. bonner
first speech to parliament].
dr victor kacala says:
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:08 pm
nicely put andrew. i agree. sadly, there are many who
gain social credit by using the weak as a vehicle
for social credit [this happens globally].
the gov has failed miserably in the past, & continues
to do so. a key issue is that gov agencies are grossly
incompetent in giving the tools of power to ab people
& the great un-washed masses [sadly, at a global
level]. the quality of pollies [wrt INTEGRITY &
competence] is nothing short of miserable.
how can we improve the quality of our pollies? i have
given a number of ideas on various web sites & to
andrew. u do not have to agree, just make sure that it
is a measured response [i.e., do your research & check
key facts].
i often hear market solutions to social problems,
for ab, other indigenous people & the poor
generally.
when are the free market pundits going to learn?
[esp fat cats in gov agencies, including lab state
gov$$$].
markets are BUILT by a implicit & explicit set of
rules & associated physicAL tools. for example, a
carbon trading system [global] must be built - the
current versions i know of are a disaster waiting to
happen. sadly, well- intended incompetents, such as p.
garrot, are all passion & no system design SKILL.
i heard prof peter dixon & mckibbon on these matters
- they are NOT up to the task [dixon IS up to the task
of testing a SIMULATION of a global system - i have a
great deal of respect for his ability & people &
resources to undertake this CRUCIAL task, as a manager
i.e., he will need input from ALL major carbon trading
countries].
any design from the free market will be a social
disaster.
markets do not just appear at a global level. we
require decisive action by all players AT A GOV LEVEL,
with some SAVAGE actions against global thieves in the
finance & energy arenas.
as a first cut, dixon was spot on. a good basis
solution = taxes, some prices rises & active
promotion of energy saving at all levels of demand.
doctor victor kacala says:
June 6th, 2007 at 10:43 am
dear ken, is it a gross generalization? not at all.
how are polly candidates selected? what is the social
processes that they go thru [education & life
experience]. how dominant are the religous
influences? do they have a BASIS in ethics to support
& govern how to form policy & strategy?
thus, while one or two pollies here & there may have
COURAGE & integrity, any given polly is constrained by
the group action. within any given group/party, there
are dominant players who pull the levers of power.
these dominant players are promoted via power players
behind the scenes pulling the strings. there are many
ways to pull strings in social exchange systems,
across the globe & across time & across any party of
any description.
over the years we have seen an ever greater
concentration on money [credit in all its forms],
social guru status, and a far greater power base for
our great friend & buddy & protector, the USA. who
controls the usa? lobby groups?
so, even if the sun shone out of andrews but AND he is
the smartest person who ever lived, it would make NO
dif to the rest of the polly process. he depends on
info & data flows the same as every one else [such as
u & i]; if those data & info flows are biased, or
captive to [say] a set of elites around the globe,
then it does NOT matter how smart or ethicAl any given
polly is or is not, decisions/policies/actions will be
sub-optimal in the social sense of the word.
it is for this reason, i am so critical of terror
laws, media concentration [local & global], security
services [who act as instruments of terror, such as
cia/kgb/etc
], advisors, academia & so on.
i have lost interest in oz as an idea, after all, all
nations are a invention. our high courts lack an
imagination & fail to protect those at the bottom of
the pile from gov agencies, elites [of money or social
credit or military etc
], foreign security services,
religions [of any description] and so on.
doctor victor kacala says:
June 6th, 2007 at 12:03 pm
imagine there are two nations with the names usa &
user, who have leaders george & pewtin. pewtin &
george do not agree - the usa & user are in a strong &
weak eco position resp. george is a leader in name
only & is a person of ABSOLUTE faith in his version of
god & others give him polcy options & facts - george
thinks users are the evil people & the usa is a land
of the free & fair [at least this is his views in
public].
pewtin knows user was & has its evil elements & is
subject to attack from traitors within. over time,
the usa will be in a totally dominant position, if the
usar are allowed to complete a defence against system
against user. of course, george states we defend
against other terror nations such as abc & xyz.
what should pewtin do? pewtin knows that george is a
mere puppet for goys=we are chosen by GOD, the real
power.
if pewtin allows george to finish the defence systems,
usa will totally dominant over all aspects of tech &
eco FOREVER.
what george does NOT know is that user has a FULLY
operational system in place, ready to go. if pewtin
does not act soon, then the usar will eventually win
by eco subversion and or a nuke strike with
bunker-busters & other advanced weapons.
pewtins moral issue is: can i strike with out
becoming the very thing i attack?
yes, IFF a clear warning is given [to all GOYS].
george is clearly lying & the threat is real based on
the evidence [pewtin does not believe george when he
says that i am YOUR friend! etc
].
of course, the above is only a story, not meant to
represent any real world situation.
in a recent article i posted on the abc, i noted that
data, info & ideas are controlled by elites, at a
global level [direct & in-direct]. i have also given a
SOLUTION of HOW to fix global systems of governance. i
have given a framework of THE tech to do the job - so
far, goys have done a great job in blocking [in-direct
& direct] of these systems.
victor kacala says:
June 7th, 2007 at 10:54 am
ken=u ?:=:although I often demean our polllies
sarcastically do you actually know any personanlly
that is, or in a work environment?
i kmow andrew? there is only ONE thing i need to
KNOW about any person of any age e.g., do they have
COURAGE=integrity + a sense of fair play?.
do u know u*self? to learn some thing means to change
u or i or U&i in a pos or neg sense of the word.
i know the abc/rn is RUN by a pack of fascists? how
do i know? they modify or edit or delete my imput from
the public domain.
this is a funDAmental attack on fair pLAY & exCHANGE
in ideas between oz people.
this is as basic an attack on freedom as u can get. i
do NOT ask andrew to agree with i, i ask that he does
NOT edit or modify or delete=exclude what i think.
do i know i*SOUL? no. i know pollies by LISTENinG to
their mode of speech, & other visual forms etC & their
actIon$$$. i sawm costello last night interviewed by
the big blue on abc last night. what did i see & hear?
i heard controllED aggro from blue - costello, if u
cannot stand the heat, GET OFF THE$ AIR, do NOT waste
blues valuable time.
summary=PATHeTIKc^***I.
wrt to know any polly, person ETc
, i let my stINK
in pinKKK do the ***^i.
am i clear? mayBE notE? this gov has/is an
UN-mitigated diSAstir?
of course, wee & i could be in errOR? i try to keep my
errors small, unless i have to act*!I.
?s.
so, evil about is actually a good guy, as he forms a
counter POinT for andrew & any one else who reads what
andrew has to say [direct & in-direct] for all who
chose it so.
so, do i know any person at all? no. but, pollies
have a habit of lying via spin merchants of greed ETc,
at a global level.
it is form this reason, i want out of this SH***t hoLO
callED oz.
this CoUNTry has loST ITsss on a piLE gREED.
all rights of all that i outPUT * inPUT
:=:copy-RIGHT$$$.
mayBEE ya get the idea?
MsFuzz says:
June 7th, 2007 at 11:29 am
Victor - how could anyone get the idea?
Your last comment is - to be blunt - a rambly
incoherent burble that makes not much sense.
It also bears no relevance to the topic of this post.
doctor victor kacala says:
June 7th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
u lack an imagination. maybe u should look at
elements of justice, 2006, CUP, for some real
burble.
still, this is a common facet of vegies who think they
are smart, MSfuzz.
maybe u should look at victor kacala on google for
some thing suitable for a child?
am i clear here?
doctor victor kacala says:
June 14th, 2007 at 12:24 pm
what is THE grate tragedy in
a terrible beauty, per peter watson, 2000?
the great tragedy is that ADULTS kill the SPIrit &
soul of kids on an inter-generational basis.
why? greed, arrogance & revenge.
there have been many titles given to GURUS in human
social exCHANGE systems e.g., queen, king, duke,
count, lord, chief, and various lesser social status
RANKsss.
the trilogy is the common feature of the human species
as long as social records can record.
people often put their kids as being divine, above
other people in their social sphere/circle. thus, a
prince is the son of a king & queen - often the
prince will become king along genetic lines: put
king:=: any title of social rank or divide e.g.,
doctor=title.
this is a major error, of huge size.
i stART with the idea that:
ALL PEOPLE ARE OF EQUAL VALUE ON THE GLOBAL STAGE.
thus, any person in meet is of equal social value, in
the absence of any data or info. it very hard not to
have a pos or neg or both bias due to our unique
social history.
there is no such thing as history as defined in the
text books - ALL history is a self history, based on
facts & events as served up on the valid records, &
personAl memories of local plays in a game.
the reason i like kids far more than adults is simple:
kids know less but they know QUALITY & are far more
tolerant of difs in people [e.g., looks, colour,
dress, smell, height, weight, sex, and so on.
our social systems of rank & status are grossly unfair
e.g., in religous organs.
priests assume they KNOW due to the fact of
indoctrination at an early age. in a basic sense,
religions are the anti-thesis of REASON & justice.
we had better make the changes people, else we are all
headed into a greater hell or tragedy than is our
systems of social genocide of the human mind.
even such religions as buddhism [a theory of reason]
& science [especially social sciences] are dogma
doctor victor kacala says:
June 19th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
is evil pun-dit a rascist? in my view, no. it is
common for well-intended gurus to dis-miss the
enemys view.
this is a very well-known strategy of peace & war &
fair debate - always respect your enemy, they MAY be
right or left.
as i have said else-where, evil pundit serves as a
very useful counter point - i often agree with the
evil gal & *guy*.
evil & good have many faces, that is INDEPENDENT of
race [a doubt-FULL concept at the best of times], sex,
sexuality, state, FAmiLY etC
so, attack ideas, rather than the person.
i DO attack gurus who hold them selves out as the fair
& reasonABLE people. for example, i have john coward,
gwb, blair and some people from the ABC/rn.
i took a long handle to r. kohn with CLEAR intent &
measure - she holds herself out as some one who is
FAIR & who promotes links between religions & other
secular people, such as p. adames.
i DID attack her DUE to her guru status AND BIAS &
superior form of lies i.e., u can not attack me
because i am a NICE person. she holds a position of
great POWER on abcs religion & ethics corner - there
fore i have NO compunction in giving all that she has
EARNED!
some one on abc & this bLOG cut my comment. since i
have spent a great deal of time on fair systems of
trade in ideas & things, i think that my view should
have been allowed to stand [i COULD be wrong].
i do NOT think i am right or wrong, i think i have a
BAsic right to have my views seen/heard.
further, it is a very inFORMed view, rather than the
hysterical slander that i see on commercial stations.
doctor victor kacala says:
June 19th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
some notes on my views on FAIR public trade & exchange
of ideas. ideas form the basis for all
actions/in-action that guide u & i actions. at times
SILENCE can form tacit support for unFAIR actions. who
controls debate sets the agenda for all the sheep,
such as u & i. this has very real and often tragic
results for people at the bottom of the pile.
i saw the media report last night.
were some of the comments on commercial media
slander, vicious, racist etC?
yes.
i saw a general attack on GROUPS of people, such as
blacks, lebos, various other ME people, and so on.
i attach a comment that is an attack on the IDEAS of
some people who hold them selves out as the
moral=ethicAl gurus of OUR collective sole.
my views are similar" to p. adams, but i do NOT
reject the idea of god[s]. i reject the various
versions of god that are the basis for ALL religions
i.e., i attack ALL gurus of ANY breed or group.
this is a comment on the process of debate in the
public forum - i very much OBJECT to any
edits/modifications [even errors] or exclusion by
face less who use un-known criteria. the abc is a
CRUCIAL stone for a proper analysis & synthesis of key
social issues - if U [any!] hold u self out as a GURU
of fair & just play, then EXPECT a criticAl response.
if u cannot stand the heat, get off the air & stop
wasting our time. for example, i attacked the DALAI
lama with vigor & precision. i do NOT use the same
force against lesser light - the higher u go, the
harder i hit.
ghost writer says:
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 am
U=i.
ken says:
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:05 pm
But Phantom U too are a guru? So how does that
compute?
doctor victor kacala says: Your comment is awaiting
moderation.
November 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 am
cat got u*LIP?
i talk of the QUALITY*LIFE poTENTiAL!
so, why the deBATe#*u*=-value?
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To: papa13 at hotmail.co.uk,
MATTHEW.IRONSIDE at woodside.com.au
CC: MATTHEW.IRONSIDE at woodside.com.au,
papa13 at hotmail.co.uk, senator.faulkner at aph.gov.au,
Senator.Bartlett at aph.gov.au
please find an outline of my practical
teaching&learning below - as a specialIst
in the area,
give me a grade out of abc?
so do u*think i pass/fail?
any & all questions to my pear peer$.
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Subject: RE: see some notes wrt Senior Policy Advisor
- CRP- M013
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:03:25 +0900
From: "Ironside, Matthew M."
<MATTHEW.IRONSIDE at woodside.com.au> View Contact
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To: "viktor zolotenko" <zolotenko at yahoo.com>
Sounds like a good position to implement some of
your ideas. Of course
happy to help in any ay possible.
Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: viktor zolotenko [mailto:zolotenko at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2007 12:16 PM
To: JGentle at boystown.com.au
Cc: Ironside, Matthew M.
Subject: see some notes wrt Senior Policy Advisor -
CRP- M013
Dear Judy Gentle,
First, thank you for the information.
Second, as you may have gathered from my outline of my
cv [brief
version
sent to you] and a more detailed version that I attach
below.
Third, I have read your selection criteria and I think
I am a lot like
the boys you get into your organization. I do not
'fit' in with
standard
values in either academic [finance a'prof] or
government [treasury
management systems] or corporate finance [all greed
and arrogance e.g.,
SBCWarburg]. It is very hard to find people in these
areas with
integrity, competence and courage. If some one does
get the 'courage',
they soon end up on the social scrap heap & cannot get
a job [I know
this from hard experience] - thus, if you or I 'blow'
the whistle, we
end up as the victims. For example, if a Bundaberg
nurse did NOT have
some polly support [via media pressure], then it is
likely that "doctor
death" would be happily killing off more people to
this day. This is a
rather sad state of affairs in Oz.
Fourth, the reason I get along with kids [more so than
adults] is that
I
can empathize with them, coming from a similar
background for many of
your clients i.e., western suburbs of melbourne.
Fifth, I have worked with Maori people in NZ on
governance and
management systems for three years in the past and
have a good
knowledge
of how to speak with people from 'the fringes'. Many
of your clients
are
excluded from the big end of town right from day one
through social
context e.g., violent alcoholic parents [some thing I
can relate to
very
well, given my own family life].
Sixth, I have unique strengths in the areas of
education [lit&num in
business ethics] and design of health systems. A
health system has a
lot
in common with a treasury management system [you may
wish to speak with
Matthew above, who has more details with respect to my
'integrity',
competence and skills in the area of systems design
work].
Seventh, it is clear from my CV that I have proven
skills in a wide
range of areas developed over a long period of time -
i am an 'expert'
in the area of risk management systems & strategy.
However, my key
skill
is in the area of 'psychology' of empowerment - the
basic strategy is
to
use the skills of the clients and recursively build a
set of linked
ideas to guide THEIR decision-making processes. Thus,
I do not 'teach',
I manage the process in a fair way [such that the
'student' sees that I
give ideas to empower in a given social context
[suited to a 'student].
I see my self as a student & teacher.
8th, I refer above to M. Ironside who can confirm [or
DENY!] what I say
above. Matthew also knows of other people who are
familiar with my
views
& skills & history.
9th, my "positive notice blue card" for child related
employment is:
number=450029/1, expiry=2/3/8.
I have never been charged with any criminal offence or
have any
criminal
offences of any nature.
Tenth, and most important, I agree with your values
statement. I
particularly like the idea of PERSISTENCE with regard
to people/kids
who
'fail' to act in a fair and reasonable way [maybe they
do not know
HOW].
Given that adults in power [e.g., pollies at a global
level] act very
badly over many years [e.g., gwb at USA], I think it is
the key attitude
that is crucial for long term success.
11th, I have a current drivers license to drive a
motor car & I am an
australian citizen. I have complete document of
certificates of degrees
and academic records and commercial contracts to
demonstrate my
practical business and social skills.
At a general level, I think I am uniquely placed to
offer an attitude &
skills that your organization will find very useful.
I am happy to learn any new skills & take courses of a
formal &
informal
kind [I think I have enough formal skills?].
Going forward, I think the human species is in very
serious trouble
UNLESS we fix our systems of
education/governance/health systems and
allocation of power/resources [including ideas/info].
This view[many
seem to agree] has caused me major 'problems' in
getting work &
security
in areas where I want to work i.e., it is easy to be
'executed' in a
social sense of the word via false information.
Cheers, Dr Victor kacala.
ps I shall ring in a couple of days to see if you need
further info. I
can provide full original documentary evidence if I am
short-listed for
interview for the position.
see note that u* may cut, if u*choice?
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:54:19 +1100 (EST)
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To: senator.faulkner at aph.gov.au,
MATTHEW.IRONSIDE at woodside.com.au,
Senator.Bartlett at aph.gov.au
a.http://www.globaljusticemovement.net/pipermail/discussion_globaljusticemovement.net/2006-May/003366.html
see links to my paper at:
http://www.globaljusticemovement.net/pipermail/discussion_globaljusticemovement.net/2006-May/003364.html
b. GREED had ONE=i*SELF week#any week#U=i!
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To: LEACHJU at stgeorge.com.au
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:42:50 +1100 (EST)
From: "viktor zolotenko" <zolotenko at yahoo.com> View
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Subject: error@$=Subject: b. "u=i".July 4th, 2007 at
3:00 pm, report of "child abuse" to
SENatOR*bART+SIGHT#
To: senator.faulkner at aph.gov.au,
MATTHEW.IRONSIDE at woodside.com.au,
Senator.Bartlett at aph.gov.au
CC: senator.faulkner at aph.gov.au,
MATTHEW.IRONSIDE at woodside.com.au,
Senator.Bartlett at aph.gov.au
Subject: b. "u=i".July 4th, 2007 at 3:00 pm,
report of
"child abuse" to SENatOR*bART+SIGHT#
To: senator.faulkner at aph.gov.au
CC: info at designsciencelab.org, bob at RobertReich.org
Subject: some notes & corrections to my paper on
"ethics & governance=management"
To: info at designsciencelab.org
CC: MATTHEW.IRONSIDE at woodside.com.au,
JGentle at boystown.com.au
ethics & governance=management
http://www.globaljusticemovement.net/pipermail/discussion_globaljusticemovement.net/2006-May/003363.html
see some further note$$$,
a. below, b. i^attach C... when i send note^#$,
as i*C it, when "i" sea the see saw of life,
in U&*i*?!.
a. Subject: so, we are in deep poo!
dear kirsty*people,
i think you are a person some one can trust.
this is the most important aspect about me.
i would be ready to move as soon as an official offer
was made.
it is hard to find people who are trust*worthy;
my guess is that this is also true among UN+oz
'advisors'.
i attach a short cv that outlines my skill set.
i have a 'blue' card that indicates that i have no
criminal charges and am able to work with
'dis-advantaged' people e.g., kids.
i would be very useful to your people and timor at a
general level. if you wish to know more, search
"victor kacala" on internet?
Dr Victor Kacala, BRISBANE
please find a cv and some views on global eco-systems
and e.timor
zolotenko at yahoo.com [please email any response].
Reference: VOLUNTARY worker as an Economics Adviser
& Literacy & Numeracy in Business Ethics & System
Design Work (any area)
Could you consider me for the above position? I am
honest, reliable, adaptable, humble, intelligent and
get along with people from all walks of life. I love
kids and they seem to like me.
If you see my CV, you will find I have a wide range of
interests and skills. At a general level, I offer
superior system design skills in the areas of health
and education. I know that I can show that I satisfy
any selection criteria in system design that you
specify.
What I dont know, I am happy to learn.
SIX
Learn very quickly in a practical setting
Speed read courses and good communication skills
Design risk management systems for health care (mental
and physical)
Knowledge acquired thru general interest
Familiar with the ISO Quality Standards in health care
Keen interest to solve practical problems in health
care and education
EIGHT
I write in a simple and direct way
Superior written and verbal skills for any audience
Adapt my dialogue to suit the customer (e.g., kids)
Written two books (one on ethics and the other a
cookbook on system design in education and health
care)
some notes i made for phillip adams,
for abc, radio national [see below]:
Diary, Day Four: Balibo
doctor victor kacala Says:
October 4th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
i would like to work for some one in east timor who
can use my profile.
it is a sad reality that the west is a cess pool of
greed & arrogance.
thus, it is possible a genocide could happen again.
e.timor will get screwed by foreign corps like
others in LDCs,
such as africa, s.america, and so on. the list is very
long.
in order that this does NOT happen,
e.timor needs proper systems in health, education &
finance/treasury.
this is not possible in the west, as there are vested
interests in existing systems of GREED.
thus, unless e.timor [&other LDCs] get valid & fair
systems,
genocide will occur via economics.
search [ abc victor kacala ]
summary=system design expert in the areas of health
[mental and physical], finance, eco, codes and
education.
i love life and kids - i do not like many adults.
i HATE greed arrogance revenge, served up in any face
of zero grace.
so, do you have a job in e.timor?
October 13th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
there is a saying that the first death in any war is
the truth. i am not that interested in debate about
who did what to who and who were the masters of a
local genocide. my guess is that what helen states
is likely to be true, even if only a part truth of a
war in the making. the real villians are unlikely to
be caught. it is also clear that fretilin was armed
and used by western states [via a third party]. oz
also has blood on its hands [even based on public info
- the other info will dis-appear or be held in secret
files some where]. i have no doubt that catholic
power brokers [domestic & foreign] were key players in
genocide - of course, heavy hands on innocent people
increased the violence cycle. in the back ground, the
west security services [and foreign corps] were keen
to get their hands on gas & oil linked to e.timor -
the deals done by downer + corps + cronies makes this
clear.
oz and other western states [via UN*umbrella of
chastity and fair play] now seem set on an agenda to
exploit e.timor people again using a shield of
catholic vritue + dogma.
the end result is clear.
i see the faces of kids & adult grim pain & grimACE
inside.
a fair system of governance at a national level is
crucial, such that ALL people are included.
e.timor has the same issues as all other states &
families [such as oz & usa & etC].
a basic course in literacy & numeracy in business
ethics, in a COMMON code [language] is crucia;
this could be done in one step, with kids leading the
charge [in ENGLISH].
all terms [words] must have a common meaning suited to
a local context,
with examples in words and pic/fig to suit.
a simple FONETIC english word set would be built,
in order to increase the rate of learning.
dear kevin*oo7 & team,
well, we are all in in poo. the usa and other western
states are run by a greedy pack of elite fascists who
call them selves 'free' market gurus.
it is time to stand up for all the little people on
the global stage, including our religions of 'islam',
hindus and so on.
gwb + hos neo-con buddies and similar set the the
agenda in finance, energy, academia, 'centres' of
ethics and MARKET eco systems [under the slogan of
"free trade & markets"=No such thing] and so on.
greed is the basic premise pinned by a belief in their
own merit of "i/wee deserve OUR wealth, income and so
on".
below i attach two web-sites that is a SIMPLE &
general attack on ALL gurus thru time, religions and
elites. it is time that we put an end to this GENOCIDE
via in-direct means.
usa has military bases across the planet and has made
threats of an indirect and direct nature.
e.g., a threat to nuke the taliban by obama?!
gwb is insane with his own sense of destiny and gwb
has the support of a pack of christian crusaders who
welcome the day of 'reckoning'.
thus, the basic idea is to CUT=dis-member the notion
of the supreme ethicAL basis of these fascists - i
have done so in a decisive way.
i do not hear a squeak from some of our leading
'lights'.
some ideas on god & science & the utility of happy
spin sin for all people - an idea of a tall
fairY*tale.
http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2006/000163.html
http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2007/000040.html
some ideas on god & science & the utility of happy
spin sin for all people
i have NEVER sold any of my "art works" - many people
have simply 'taken' my work & claimed it as their own.
some aspects of my art has a very high commercial &
social=business VALUE [i.e., for ALL people].i NEVER
give away copy right ONLY a copy of my copy rights.
thus, i have given ALL my art works to some one i
trust=v.putin of russia [and, as SPECIFIED by putin,
any designated cohorts IF they are russian citizens
AND they comply with explicit and implicit 'fair'
rules that i define in my art works].
i have given DISTRIBUTION rights to abc/rn people, NOT
abc 'management' or other fascists who stalk the halls
& balls of power. thus, people such as saunders,
adams, natasha, amanda, and so on are my key players.
i have also given people at the sports team at sbs+oz
[such as les, fos, etc rights as agreed to by abc/rn
people].
doctor victor kacala says:
July 11th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
social crdeit gives power choice and power gives rise
to a social DUTY to act in a fair way - thus, my focus
on the word FAIR or just methods in social systems.
i wanted to [and have done so in an in-direct way]
DEFINE fairness in a tech way, that takes into account
human foibles [and there seem to be some loo-loo_SSS.
{ greed & arrogance & revenge } has ALWAYS won in
social systems through human social systems e.g., the
roman empire. some things do repeat across all social
groups, across time.
it takes courage & good strategy, at a global level,
to put greed in the waste paper basket - good strategy
is where each person gives on the basis of comparative
strength [one of the few ideas that work from
economics].
a small bit of info/data/act[s] from a unified group
can make all the dif e.g., the 1-percenters in sport
sum up to a lot.
i% is my system of fair trade WITH the tech to do the
job i.e., u need to think some thing is possible
[however small] before it is possible.
i have defined my soul in an open forum as
softwire in order to claim copy rights over all my
"art works" :=: any aspect of my life [this will be in
the public domain to promote DEMOCRACY=fair systems of
trade & exchange across the globe]. i gave hugo chavez
a definition of i*god that defines MY religion [see my
comments in a book called the elements of justice.
GOD is a HUMAN CREATION. thus, god exists, if u or say
it is so. i have given u my version of god i.e., a
global system of fair play in an evolutionary system
of games. thus, 'god' is spirit [I DEFINE] as a
systems of basic ideas AND the links that give rise to
such a system[s] of fair play - this will result in a
'sphere', or ball of fun, that allows for errors by
people & data & unfair actions by players.
so, i put ALL sects, cults, religions etc into the
rubbish bin - where they should be in my view. so, i
have given p. adams [L&L, abc/rn] DISTRIBUTION rights
[&cohorts] of all my art works - my views on social
matters are sufficiently similar.
i do NOT reject the idea of god, i reject YOUR [or
lack there-of] version of god[s] and offer an
OPTION[s] as given in my art works and a system[s] of
education to DRIVE social evolution, at a global
level.
v. putin, pres of russia is my SOLE inheritor to
negotiate with adams and cohorts for a long-term goal
of fair play, across ALL markets, across the globe.
this is why i designed a value [in&out] account*$$$
system [real-time].
russia and china have a basic outline of a system of
NATIONal accounts [but have invalid data input/output]
that can serve as a frame work for STRATEGIC decisions
and for the globe. national accounts systems are
'silly' and produce false signals for 'pollies' and
fat-cats who manage policy decisions.
ghost writer says:
July 10th, 2007 at 11:04 am
housing is often the single most important act of
investment, & often is seen as part of the oz dream.
this oz-DREAM has been smashed by free market eco
systems promoted by gov from both sides of the polly
fence.
the focus should be on the idea of FAIR markets,
rather than some thing that does not exist.
it is often the case that slogan makers, who act as
advisors to pollies, parade the capitalist ideal as
being a factual [i.e., do-able] goal.
it is well known by eco people of any colour that
there is no such thing as a free market.
and yet, we stILL get j. *COWARD or gwb or etc
parade
this LIE, a VEry BIG lie, as core to their polly
platform.
so, when are the people going to learn that our
pollies on both side of any fence are a pack of liers,
ANY time they talk of the free market?
another instance of the application of free market
slogans is the sale of gov utilities, such as telstra
[esp sale of DISTRIBUTION net-works].
the long term consequences of these changes are NOT
reversible, like in a car UNLESS there was a war i.e.,
violence would be the only way of over throwing
entrenched greed power systems. this is the problem
with social evolution, there social paths that lead to
a DEAD end i.e., any innovation or creative stuff is
scooped up by the elites that exist now.
now is this a small problem?
no.
some note$$$ 2-The Sports f*Actor
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Visit Time 16/09/2007 12:36 PM
Remark Name ghost#i
Subject sin as spin grin
Postcode a spec on a sky pie
Visit Time 16/09/2007 12:25 PM
Visit Time (24H) 16/09/2007 12:25
Remark some old ways to see a sea of meaning in art
design line?
i do not know the artists work - your guru from wa
seemed to give a description of myself. most art
people [critics/curators/academics] are really not any
more expert than the local plod like myself [the woman
was a disaster='curator].
in fact i listen to 'amanda', natasha, etc for your
dialogue and 'debate' - this is THE high art of
humans. so, your chat was of far more colour and
meaning that any piece of art works.
i have some comments on mind below to natasha. in
fact, i think abc/rn people [some] are better
'artists' than the so-called greats that are paraded
in museums or peddled by auction houses etc...
kids are even better at dialogue than adults - they
may know less but they say more simple and beatiful
ideas [such as a shreak of a tweek in FUN!].
a close second to speech/dialogue is writing - it
depends on who does the 'job' e.g., mark twain is pure
genius [in my view]. i am in awe of his twang in the
dialogue and the clarity of exchange between the
'players'. one key weakness that some writers fall
into is 'slang' and local meaning [such as in
'science' jargon e.g., see p.zone this weak]. jargon
and BIG words cuts down on ideas and twists in tweet
in sweep the teat?
so, enjoy any day and eveRY day#U&i*.?.
can we define the insane & sane partition? grey areas?
people are not one thing and we change over time. the
idea of sane is a matter of taste on the person who
attaches the label.
the idea of any psycho person doing this is a little
silly - they have no idea about HOW to define the
"sanity/insanity" label.
for example, i think many cults have people [kids
also] who i think are insane. indeed, one pundit
stated that it is optimal to appear insane in order to
aviod and insane social system [this will vary by
context and over time].
people do not get sane from 'more' wisdom, nor is more
knowledge progress as defined by s.rushdie on L&L.
further, people will lie=ACT in order to explain away
bad actions to their social group[s].
moreover, psycho people have a vested interest in
going along with any 'project' that suits their idea
of themselves and their gurus status as 'mind'
healers. for the most part, psycho people are buried
under silly psycho-metrics that has no substantive
basis in scientific 'method'. a classic case is that
of freund, whose work still pervades much of the
thinking in the psych arena. hence, bipolar is merely
a label that is a useful for funds from gov agencies
and gives the client[s] an out from violent actions or
words.
did i believe the woman? no. do i think she lied? yes
[we will never know]. do i think that there was
another reason for her 'delusions'? yes.
some people have assigned me such a label e.g.,
'paranoid'. this is another word for very cautious -
am i cautious? yes. i do not trust many adults but i
trust kids & animals. kids are really bad liers -
good.
a partition method to 'class' stuff is a set of rules
that allow the 'doctor' to measure stuff that is meant
to capture aberrant actions/behaviour - these rules
are often qualitative [as with a list of criteria for
schizo] and many psych people try to make their stuff
'scientific' for academic journals with some sort of
'intensity' factor.
the reality is that this is pure fluff that masks
another reality - all people will react dif in dif
social contexts and the rules that guide actions dif
over time.
sadly, much of our education systems is premised on
psycho drivel by gurus who give definitive stats on
education at all levels.
some note$$$ on a flick of vic as a stick=
luck as a casual fluck i did ruck at some ducks &
puck!
send lines at any time to the grime in prim prime?
Subject: an outline of a GLOBAL system of
education=art parts for u or i or any ARTiST u-like!
To: mediareport_rn at your.abc.net.au
Subject: an outline of a system of education
* &=Name ghostwriter
Subject justice
Postcode any stage of genocide
Visit Time 14/09/2007 11:54 AM
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Remark tutu is a person of great passion and skill
in speech - he has lost zero over the years.
i compare the lack of spirit and soul of your two
speakers [lowe & galgut] e.g., galgut="books are what
i care about". strange. i care about life & people,
rather than things that do not have 'life'. books only
have value if the books 'make people happy'.
your speaker [LA] from the previous day had a bit of
flair & a sense of fun.
sadly, the anc has become the same as many
'revolutionary' movements - the cure has been worse
than the original 'virus' e.g., rhodesia .
many white people sold up and simply moved to usa ,
oz,
uk , etc...
they retained an eco-colony and money in foreign
banks/corps and physically relocated else-where. this
sort of thing has happened many times, across the
globe, with the same basic results i.e., chaos via
greed & corrupt people packing their bags & going some
where else to start the whole business else where.
what would have happened if the power players had of
used their wealth to stop [say] aids or other aspects
of social collapse?
based on last count, 6+ million [mainly black] people
have aids in sa - this is a social genocide by
default. more-over, white players did not do enough to
prevent the spread of this virus. i was amazed at the
number of white sa people in WA, in oz.
why was it that whites were allowed to come to oz etc
but not blacks or 'indian'? they had money? fascists
had
money from a corrupt and racist regime i.e., many
rascists/genocidal maniacs simply left, using their
business links to build else-where. they left a social
vacuum and simply re-placed corrupt white faces with
black faces [on a selective basis].
These tirds now parade themselves as ethics gurus
after learning the slogans
& basic mechanics of lies and spin to serve their
greed platform^I!
lowe does not have a soul. i can hear it. while his
outline of the nuke debate was 'fair', he does NOT
offer a wider eco+polly solution/method to the solve
the "global change" 'problem'.
i note israel uses 80% solar?
why not oz? vested interests and lack of polly will
and the 'power' of a privatized electricity market[s]?
the fascists have won the day by getting the 'high'
moral ground - they then use media and guru status to
promote their own agenda.
our public servants and selection criteria for
positions of power/advisors is a crucial weakness
e.g., pollies can bias whole agenda via selecting
polly lackeys at key administrative posts.
thus, my optimal strategy is to claim polly asylum in
russia , cuba or fiji or similar.
will alp be better? it would be marginal at best and
the same at worst.
Name ghostwriter
Subject spheres of fair players?
Postcode any sphere of just p
Visit Time 13/09/2007 10:33 AM
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Remark Subject: attention leslie & literacy &
numeracy in business
i heard you on the abc/rn today.
you gave an outline of work being done by aboriginal
people for kids in nt.
if you see further information about how i can help,
see "victor kacala" on a search engine.
i would like to be able to do either voluntary work
with adults and/or aboriginal kids.
i have a blue card and i have never been charged with
any criminal offence or have any charges pending.
i attach a comment on alp policy in the area of
education and literacy & numeracy.
in the past, i have taught maori people in nz for
three years.
sent to abc/rn/"lifematters": "i heard s.smith [alp]
on education on abc/rn this morning.
ss has picked the key weaknesses in the lib-rat policy
& the core role of literacy & numeracy in business
ETHICS.
the measure of 'performance of teachers' has some very
serious problems as given bishop.
bishop has a 'closed' frame of reference from her own
social history & selective views on 'elites'.
teachers are already under extreme pressure from state
fat-cats [who clone THEIR policy as applied when they
taught].
ss should make 'small' but crucial changes in the
general area of literacy & numeracy in FAIR play or
business ethics.
the keys are to have a COMMON 'small' set of words
that can be defined in a students local context, with
COMMON crucial ideas. a useful frame of reference is
sport or games [e.g., computer] such that the teacher
adapts to the skills of the students - students should
generate 'stories' that they can relate to their own
social & family context. these stories can be adapted
by other students and/or the student as their
knowledge base evolves.
thus, teachers would NOT be assessed - the students
would generate their own portfolio for assessment [in
lit & num] on an on-going basis. this means that
students assess each other, teach each other and each
school/class/student can be assessed from a 'standard'
portfolio.
this means that standards are NOT limited in terms of
upside [and students can write songs/poems/music and
play based on their skill set]. a standard in lit &
num should be a MINIMUM, rather than a standard set by
ignorant fat-cats and elites in unis etc...].
this would take the pressure off teachers AND students
are given respect for each part they add to a class
portfolio and an individual portfolio [that can be
checked by 'independent' assessors of STUDENT work].
having content & context set by fat-cats are a central
agency [fed or state] will result in an entrenchment
of the stratified and violent society we have at the
moment.
i attach further comment below.
cheers, dr victor kacala.
ps see pearl & knight for stuff on "democratic
classrooms" - strange, democracy actually works if we
build the 'rights'/wrongs system from the grass
roots."
Subject: response to RQF=see below "some notes on
rights & wrongs of global systems"
dear mike,
the issues that face uk are the same='similar' to oz.
the abc is 'similar' to the bbc.
the key issues relate to systems of governance and
fair play on the global stage.
the has been a fascist take-over in the usa AND the
high court [to some extent this is true in oz].
these are no small matters and concern all people
across the planet.
i have some tech solutions and METHOD=strategy.
we go into a nuke war - maybe even in the short term
[e.g., within 5 or so years].
in many ways i agree with the 'terrorists' about the
facts but NOT their solutions. is it true that muslims
are treated badly [and are living with corrupt
leaders/elites and eco-colony syndrome via energy and
finance corps etc]?
yes. this has been the case for a long time -
naturally under these situations terror cells are
almost certain to brew. what if terrorists were to
develop bio weapons? this is cheap and could be done
by a focussed group in one hit i.e., across the planet
via small sealed containers, then build stocks and
then distribute and then 'let loose'.
if u think 911 was 'bad' and gave a big impetus to
'terror' laws and a cycle of revenge etc, then what
would happen if the above scenario played out? mass
hysteria. who would 'we' retaliate against.
is this likely? i think so, unless western countries
FIX very errors in attitude.
i have a 'solution' - this is a LONG-term=permanent
solution with method to get there.
Subject: some notes on rights & wrongs of global
systems
To: mediareport_rn at your.abc.net.au
title="some notes on rights & wrongs of global
systems
of power"
i heard s.smith [alp] on education on abc/rn this
morning.
ss has picked the key weaknesses in the lib-rat policy
& the core role of literacy & numeracy in business
ETHICS.
the measure of 'performance of teachers' has some very
serious problems as given bishop.
bishop has a 'closed' frame of reference from her own
social history & selective views on 'elites'.
teachers are already under extreme pressure from state
fat-cats [who clone THEIR policy as applied when they
taught].
ss should make 'small' but crucial changes in the
general area of literacy & numeracy in FAIR play or
business ethics.
the keys are to have a COMMON 'small' set of words
that can be defined in a students local context, with
COMMON crucial ideas. a useful frame of reference is
sport or games [e.g., computer] such that the teacher
adapts to the skills of the students - students should
generate 'stories' that they can relate to their own
social & family context. these stories can be adapted
by other students and/or the student as their
knowledge base evolves.
thus, teachers would NOT be assessed - the students
would generate their own portfolio for assessment [in
lit & num] on an on-going basis. this means that
students assess each other, teach each other and each
school/class/student can be assessed from a 'standard'
portfolio.
this means that standards are NOT limited in terms of
upside [and students can write songs/poems/music and
play based on their skill set]. a standard in lit &
num should be a MINIMUM, rather than a standard set by
ignorant fat-cats and elites in unis etc...].
this would take the pressure off teachers AND students
are given respect for each part they add to a class
portfolio and an individual portfolio [that can be
checked by 'independent' assessors of STUDENT work].
having content & context set by fat-cats are a central
agency [fed or state] will result in an entrenchment
of the stratified and violent society we have at the
moment.
i attach further comment below.
cheers, dr victor kacala.
ps see pearl & knight for stuff on "democratic
classrooms" - strange, democracy actually works if we
build the 'rights'/wrongs system from the grass roots.
Subject: i agree with your general views of a long
term goal=do you have the 'balls' to answer?
To: bob at RobertReich.org
dear sir,
i agree with your general outline that you gave in
abc/rn and your brief outline on abc/tv.
you lack the system design skills to deliver. further,
you have a bunch of neo-con fascists to contend with
at home & abroad.
there is a serious lack of spirit and soul in the usa
& the west at a general level=greed and arrogance is
god syndrome.
check "victor kacala" for a general outline.
you lot are simply not up to the tasks that humans
face.
in defence of elite: what makes these people think
they are the 'best'?
general=reich & company
who measures who is the best?
whose yard stick should we use? yours or mine?
i look at the results of the 'elites' across the
planet. they are all market strategy [unfair markets
that they perpetuate and entrench] and no system
design skill AND the basic strategies are premised on
"the art of war" rather than peace.
while i agreed with the general outline of reich, he &
cohorts lack the systems to DELIVER.
so, what does he know about accounting systems that
measure 'true' values, HOW does he go from his 'dream'
[i agree] from where we are now to the 'promised'
land?
in a similar way, people like sachs from NY are all
huff & puff & no brains.
so, what happens when the systems of governance and
ethics [as a core of justice & fair play] are simply
absent?
in defence of elites is merely an ex-post
justification of their own sense of destiny and greed
[they even have 'genetics' as a basis for a spurious
defence in the "bell curve".
their stats are an historical retro-fit to a set of
gurus [good strategy for the elites] as a 'scientific'
justification for their own greed.
reich is no dif.
brain dead is my summary.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
To: Senator.Bartlett at aph.gov.au
CC: contact at andrewbartlett.com
senator.faulkner at aph.gov.au
child abuse on the global systems of greed in any play
area u-like.
4/07/2007 12:34 PM doctor victor kacala: i am filing a
REport on child abuse & neglect HERE
editor, u are required under oz law to file ANY
messAGE on CHILD abuse.
in a recent poST to senator bartlett s web-site i put
some info that related to, or linked with, child
abuse.
this was cut by an un-known editor who acted as a
moderater=editor.
thus, i wish legal action against this editor who
BLOCKS my report on child abuse & neglect.
as a basis of my expert views about risks to some kids
at xyz place.
i am an expert in the area of risk management in the
education & health & finance arenas.
the basis for my claim in a public forum, NO names, is
HERE HEAR?
this is my view based on the criteria of indicators
taken from Reder, Duncan and Gray, Beyond Blame,
Child Abuse Tragedies Revisited, Routledge, 1993.
how does this affect abc health? it affects ALL the
health of people around the globe.
oz has a system of patents that follows the usa patent
system.
this system of patents is based on discovery rather
than invention i.e., dna profile is THE patent.
i am very familiar with the patent system, having
spent a huge amount of time and money on getting a
softwire public patent. the patent process is
corrupt and biased for corp thieves, who prowl the
global stage, as iff they own the globe [sadly, this
is not far from the truth].
as it turns out, the western countries seem to think
that any treaty is enforcable [e.g., wto forums].
russia told gwb & associated corrupt fascists to go
jump - i agree.
i heard wise brot on abc/rn on the law report & he is
OUR head guru to look at the ethics of bio-patents.
who is he working for? us or the corp buddy net-work
system on the global stage? based on what i heard, the
corp_$$$!
so, we have a toad who says he is an ethics guru who
is NOT ethical.
our gov is incompetent of the LOWeST oder.
Subject: some notes on evolution in social systems by
ghostwriter to p.adams [L&L]
To: admin at kevin07.com.au, media_rn at abc.net.au
some notes on evolution in social systems by
ghostwriter to p.adams
i am a social system design EXPERT - better than any
other one around. confident? yes. arrogant? no.
i heard you with stuff on r.dawkins on 'evolution'.
see meadows et al, 2005 "limits to growth: the 30-year
update":
p:167 "the most likely mode of behaviour of the model
[global] of the world model is overshoot and
collapse."
p203: "the idea that there might be limits to growth
is, for many people [in POWER], impossible to
imagine."
p:259-260 "... systems strongly resist changes in
their information flows, especially in their rules and
goals."
"Above all, it is difficult to put forth new
information in a system that is structured to only
hear old information."
"It takes courage and clarity to challenge an
established system."
p:271 "The vision [of the 'future'] must be built up
by many people before it is complete and compelling."
systems design people are a little dif to 'standard'
science egg-heads.
as it turns out, dawkins does NOT have a strong
background in the area of evolution.
evolution is a JUMP process, a lot like dirac-delta
operator [heaviside in elec' eng'].
below, i attach some detail that may inform your
thinking on various matters.
a complete outline of policy frame work for rights &
wrongs
first, the strategy of peace differs from war in many
ways.
second, even if some one follows the "art of war"
[e.g., new york bankers] the strategy book does NOT
mean that you can drive the ideas.
third, i attach my book on "THE ART OF PEACE, oo7", by
ghostwriter of an ace place in space?
some notes on eco-ethics & *justice*
dear sir,
i attach an outline of my skill set. i have
worked in the eco-systems design area for the last 30
or so years. i gave strategy and policy advice on
finance & energy & education to maori in nz.
i hate gov forms that mean ZERO, to any one except
fat-cats who know a long list of slogans, and do not
solve any problems worth solving.
so, i guess you can guess my attitude to many gov
agencies?
a song or poem for all people
"a short song as long as u*like".
key words & focUS=conTENT
play, mind, grind, fine, line
bent, spent or pent or rent, vision
sharp, park, lark, SPark?
CONtext=any u* care to lay play!?.
conDUCT=as u*chose.
title="splay in lay on my big brassy field,
or bed"
sow as i sow on your pliers of fine,
finer and finer in splines of u*line
bent as pent in a spent i would RENT,
with pace of your grace in u^ACE bent!,
sew i sew in lewd in ace in places of...
?'s.
some tech specks of eco-systems design from a global
view, based on a 'bill' of RIGHTS & WRONGS, for ALL
nations/states/people.
eco-ethics & Julian Burnside=jb & comments
there is more to a system of a bill of rights
[& wrongs] than a lst of does & don'ts, such as a list
as given in the UN or USA constitution.
let me be clear, while i refer to the ' usa ', i mean
ALL so-called advanced western countries of any
label, such as sweden , uk , france and so.
YOUR GREED & ARROGANCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN YOUR DOMINANT
FORM OF POWER & SOCIAL EXCHANGE.
before a contract of individual rights in a social
system that evolves [both international & national]
can be specified, a system of education in literacy &
numeracy in business ethics is required i.e., people
of all ages need ACCESS to fair process.
so, while JB is a person of great clarity & precision
& passion, a "bill of rights" will do zero, except
serve "unpopular" minor sections who have power
and/resources as leverage.
thus, a bill of rights is only a small part of a
"fair" society in oz - the process of defending the
'weak' against coercive power of the state [at all
level] or corps or cults etc, is a problem common to
all nations.
i would like to see a rough outline of process, set
within an oz political system and constitution, such
that such a bill of rights does not become another set
of instruments for the rich to get richer i.e., if
access by kids, adults and 'migrants'/refugees is
blocked, then the bill of rights will not serve a
purpose of a fair society.
a legal system is a social design that may be unstable
in practice, if a gov or any power group can bias
info/data/time flow, ideas or policy frame work for
business at all levels.
i have spelled out some of the factors in the design
process - first & fore most is a core basis [national]
in literacy & numeracy in business ethics. the key
aspect that must be defined is 'fair' in the face of
doubt & bias in existing systems & evolving threats of
bias in info and data flow. thus, fair speech is a
crucial stone for any fair society & system of fair
trade in a dynamic social structure. to a large
extent, 'old' data from past policy regimes is
irrelevant.
while we have known the basic features of a bill of
rights for a long time, there is no guarantee that
such a set of rights are mutually consistent or that
these rights can be defended over time.
for example, if one word is changed or a key term is
re-defined by a 'small' vested elite, then the bill of
can collapse in tyranny via corp players, cults, high
courts, gov [who select high courts, per usa ] and the
rise of military dictatorships. the threats are
numerous and the defences are 'weak' in any situation
of extreme threat/stress.
in my view, the usa bill of rights has not helped
blacks, hispanics and other 'weak players' much at all
- further, the usa bill of rights did not serve
'terror' suspects at all. thus, foreigners are simply
labelled as 'enemy combatants' or similar without any
systems of checks and balances on the executive arms
[such as usa , russia , etc].
so far, the usa and other western nations have FAILED
to lead on this matter - further, it is very unlikely
that the polly processes i know of are capable of
building fair process. greed, arrogance & revenge
DOMINATE the globalization of trade and systems of
exchange.
this is a rather dismal picture for the human race.
what the rich & poor need is a UNiFIED method and a
common ADAPTIVE way of peace, rather than the present
systems of corruption [global] and endemic greed that
festers under the banner of 'pleasure' and merit of
the gurus of strategy [who use "the art of war" rather
than "the art of peace" as given below].
so, i have made an offer to all of u, and U=ALL in
POWER have FAILED to take up the tools that i have put
into the public and private domains. academics are,
for the most part, cowards and prisoners of guru
status, journals and editors of social credit/debit
and/or jobs.
security services can BLOCK this email and even
FOREIGN nations could block exchange of ideas/data in
any nation e.g., the usa , russia , uk , etc... have
the
power to interfere in trade at a most basic level.
result? absolute tyranny going forward.
the left mean well but lack a unified and coherent
strategy going forward. for example, castro & lenin
meant well, but they became prisoners of their own
guru status and lack of strategies and people to
implement change in a fair way.
http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2006/000163.html
http://lister.itk.ntnu.no/pipermail/she_forum/2007/000040.html
and other comments that i label as the abc of justice.
so far, i have seen a gutless bunch of left and right
'activists' who claim they are fair, but never get off
their high 'moral' horse [that is in fact a goat], and
get to the first step.
thus, i see some one like bob brown and other greenies
as well intended incompetences, who have fallen in
love with their own sense of destiny. further, they
BLOCK people, such as myself, who can deliver strategy
and tech tools for all of you to fix OUR immediate
[20-50] extinction [with some few to carry the species
forward].
the human species thru time and nations and cultures
have ALWAYS committed genocide and are dynamically
un-stable [in a catastrophic sense of the word
'un-stable'].
title=some elements of mental & global eco-'health'
6/09/2007 4:01 PM ghostwriter: global systems of fair
trade - gurus who seek to save us AND make 'lots of
money!'
pilger is one of the many who make money from 'terror'
agenda.
j.pilger is an incompetent neo-fascist who hides as a
friend of 'the' people; do i believe pilger?
no.
pilger does NOT offer an option[s] - i agree with many
of his criticisms.
see n.chomsky "interventions", 2007, for better; but
he suffers from the 'defect'.
the reality is that many 'greens' do NOT offer a
viable option[s]. further, pilger et al lack the tech
skills and knowledge of system design to be of any use
to any-one [EXCEPT HIMSELF!].
films are all very good IFF they offer a viable change
in the structure of an eco-system.
further, this sort of work requires a CORE in ethics &
mode of conduct that adapts/adopts as new info/data
comes about.
can pilger DEFINE his system of ethics? no.
i attach a file from the globaljusticemovement where i
outline some of the key issues.
in the recent past, i have given you some tech specs,
that i attach below.
from meadows, 2005 "limits to growth: the 30-year
update":
p:167 "the most likely mode of behaviour of the model
[global] of the world model is overshoot and
collapse."
p203: "the idea that there might be limits to growth
is, for many people [in POWER], impossible to
imagine."
p:259-260 "... systems strongly resist changes in
their information flows, especially in their rules and
goals."
"Above all, it is difficult to put forth new
information in a system that is structured to only
hear old information."
"It takes courage and clarity to challenge an
established system."
p:271 "The vision [of the 'future'] must be built up
by many people before it is complete and compelling."
p:282 "Collapse cannot be avoided if people do not
learn to view themselves and others as part of one
integrated global society."
This is WHY i assume ALL people are family - this does
NOT mean i 'like' ALL my family. Many members of my
family are greedy, arrogant & full of venom.
www.globaljusticemovement.net/pipermail/discussion_globaljusticemovement.net/2006-May/003363.html
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or i or any ARTiST u-like!
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Name ghost writer to p.adams
Subject just mind & justice & HOW to get it!
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Remark i think you stuff today was real crap.
see why based on education & mind grind of kids aCROSS
the globe.
"The War for Children's Minds" & an outline of reason
we are all a 'prisoner' of our past & social mind
control of how & what we think to guide action or
in-action.
descartes once said some thing like "at one time in
our life we must clear all ideas out & start again".
quiet so - the problem is where do we start and how do
we rebuild our mode of reason to guide our actions &
in-action going forward.
my child-hood seems to have many common elements to
your own [based on the "talking heads program]. i saw
c.james also; i think he is a bit of dill & his poetry
stINKs. poetry is lacks power [mainly, due to the fact
that it does not have the power of rythme & ryhme &
music to support the 'idea picture]. of course, i
write poetry every now & then, more as a form of
'sacarsm' against various object of my scorn. one
exception to poetry is woody guthrie [whom dillon
imitated with great success].
religion is the enemy of reason since it starts from
the premise of 'god's word. of course, like any set of
words out of a social context, words & meaning can be
twisted to suit the person[s] who control the agenda
for kids.
in "seven up", a program on kids from a wide range of
social contexts, kids were filmed and followed forward
in time.
i am a lot like the 'small' child who wanted to be a
jockey & was running all over the place as a 7+ year
old [i had a LOT of freeedom as a child, while my mum
slept after night shift].
for the most part, tim costello is a boring prat who
has no creative edge left in his mind i.e., he is one
of the many walking talking dead.
as it turns out, it is easy to fall into this trap in
some social systems.
you got lucky p.a.
in fact, i listen to you on 'classics' versus now &
think that you have been able to fall out of love with
your social conditioning as a corp executive on spin
i.e., i think u are a vastly superior human being now
versus 10 years earlier. it is common for gurus from
any walk of life to fall in love with them-selves &
stop listening.
some education systems strip out the sole of kids via
an inert set of ideas that VERY hard to eject - this
is a form of mind kill.
i heard your second speaker and it is apparent he
mouths some useful ideas but without any sense of
importance and a strategy for making changes in social
systems i.e., he did not have a creative edge or
spirit.
sad.
it is hard to re-cover once you or your parents sell
your soul and creative edge to a social sacrifice
poST?!
for example, compare churcher & son from abc art
series - a tragedy in my view. how do i know? i can
hear it in a very direct and clear way [i am confident
that if u take the time and allow for a neg spin, you
will hear it].
still, there is not much u can do.
sadly, our school systems impose a new religion called
'education' for OUR kids. for the most part, the only
reason kids do this stuff is to climb the greasy pole
of competition in social status [as measured by
teachers who are in a prison imposed from the past
e.g., see nsw].
no where is this more apparent than with abo' kids -
ideas and method should be adapted to kids, rather
than kids adat to what the teacher imposes. kids do
have a creative edge that most adults lack.
thus, i do not like many adults esp' our pollies and
other media spin merchants in academia and the
commercial world of lies/spin bias.
b. "u=i".
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