[GJM] Is Money Obsolete?
Richard D. Foley
rerailer at earthlink.net
Sun Mar 11 19:20:29 MDT 2007
See attached poem in pdf "3Death to Money.pdf" by Richard Foley
Steve Consilvio wrote:
>
> On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:24 AM,
> discussion-request at globaljusticemovement.net
> <mailto:discussion-request at globaljusticemovement.net> wrote:
> Dan Parker wrote:
>
>> As well, as to say I'm wrong in my assessement because *just labour*
>>
>> is necessary to make the difference is akin to saying to someone that
>>
>> their life has no value (i.e. the person spending most of their
>> waking hours
>>
>> at work now).
>>
>
> There is not a problem with anybody's labor, per se, but how we
> "value" labor (which determines what we value.) Elvis Presley, for
> example, earns $20,000.00 an hour, even though he is dead, because of
> the privileges certain people get for their TYPE of work above the
> labor of a different type. We cannot be a society "where all men are
> created equal," where privileges like this are regarded as
> "commonsense," and are imbedded in the law.
>
> To put it another way, it is the accounting system that is nuts, not
> the people. The people are only destructive because it is impossible
> to make your numbers balance, and destructive (of others and the
> environment) behaviors are the most profitable.
>
> "We, us, and them" are all the same person. Everyone gets paid by an
> institutional organization, either directly or indirectly by churches
> and NGO's, Government or businesses. The individual can only get money
> AFTER it flows through one of these organizations, and after it flows
> out of the Federal Reserve. However, "wealth" is created by labor, not
> by organizations. An organization cannot create wealth, it can only
> "organize" human labor. Money, and profit are not wealth itself, they
> are just numbers within the accounting system.
>
> Because of consumption, most wealth (labor) is consumed immediately,
> but the accounting system endures significantly longer, (unforgiven
> debts, etc.,) because profit is a numerical transaction, and people
> want to retain "advantageous" numbers. With the persistence of debt
> and poverty, there is also the persistence of Inflation within the
> accounting system as well. In my view, it is Inflation that is driving
> everyone to destructive behaviors of self-survival. (The Interest
> Mechanism) The only way to escape rising costs of living is to shift
> these costs to someone else (and thus to another institution.) We all
> end up playing the part of Scrooge, but we are battling a million
> other Scooges. There is no way anybody can win in the long term
> because it is impossible to cost-shift perpetually. The million
> Scrooges (and inflation) will always win. Everybody and every
> institution gets to experience loss. Thus, the system is rigged to
> make everyone a loser. The appearance of winners and losers is an
> illusion. Those moving up will eventually lose, and those that endure
> the most are those with government privileges (artists and inventors
> and landlords,) but they still have to live in an inflationary economy
> with increasing levels of paranoia and pollution. They cannot escape
> the blowback, either.
>
> Inflation is related to all our political and social and environmental
> problems. Why do the numbers grow? If the organizations have a budget
> crisis, then the people must have one as well. Rather than seeing
> inflation as a separate phenomenon of "the marketplace" we should see
> it as a result of the marketplace. Since inflation is a man-made
> phenomenon, the question then is how? In fact, it is not just
> Interest, but it is profit as well that creates inflation. Both
> involve the math 2+2=5. (A bust is when 5=2+2) The battle of the
> Scrooges cannot end until we change what we "value" and how we value
> things. All labor must be regarded as equal if men are to be equal.
>
> Another way to look at it: We are all suffering equally in a system
> that doesn't work because we share common ideas. If we change our
> ideas in regard to the thing that makes us suffer (money) then we can
> all enjoy the beneficial changes equally. Using money as an incentive
> (pollution credits, bribes, punishment,) simply perpetuates the
> importance of money and the need for money downstream. We need to get
> back to the idea of organizing labor for the common good and
> commonwealth, but it needs to be a change the individual can do
> without an institution, because the institutions are powerless just
> like everyone else.
>
> The net effect is that we are all paying for the sins of previous
> generations. They indoctrinated us into their madness (as they were by
> their parents.) We can either repeat the same mistakes or correct them
> for the benefit of the next generation. One thing is sure, if the
> individual is unwilling to change, then there can be no change in
> society. In the case of Interest, people only need to change how they
> handle their surplus. It is a very easy change to make, since in most
> cases the money is already at risk. People need to risk changing the
> world, rather than just gambling pointlessly. The individual has to
> lead, not the institutions.
>
> peace,
> Steve Consilvio
> www.behappyandfree.com
>
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