[GJM] Is Money Obsolete?

Richard D. Foley rerailer at earthlink.net
Sun Mar 11 19:20:29 MDT 2007


See attached poem in pdf "3Death to Money.pdf" by Richard Foley






Steve Consilvio wrote:

>
> On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:24 AM, 
> discussion-request at globaljusticemovement.net 
> <mailto:discussion-request at globaljusticemovement.net> wrote:
> Dan Parker wrote:
>
>> As well, as to say I'm wrong in my assessement because *just labour* 
>>
>> is necessary to make the difference is akin to saying to someone that 
>>
>> their life has no value (i.e. the person spending most of their 
>> waking hours
>>
>> at work now).
>>
>
> There is not a problem with anybody's labor, per se, but how we 
> "value" labor (which determines what we value.) Elvis Presley, for 
> example, earns $20,000.00 an hour, even though he is dead, because of 
> the privileges certain people get for their TYPE of work above the 
> labor of a different type. We cannot be a society "where all men are 
> created equal," where privileges like this are regarded as 
> "commonsense," and are imbedded in the law.
>
> To put it another way, it is the accounting system that is nuts, not 
> the people. The people are only destructive because it is impossible 
> to make your numbers balance, and destructive (of others and the 
> environment) behaviors are the most profitable. 
>
> "We, us, and them" are all the same person. Everyone gets paid by an 
> institutional organization, either directly or indirectly by churches 
> and NGO's, Government or businesses. The individual can only get money 
> AFTER it flows through one of these organizations, and after it flows 
> out of the Federal Reserve. However, "wealth" is created by labor, not 
> by organizations. An organization cannot create wealth, it can only 
> "organize" human labor. Money, and profit are not wealth itself, they 
> are just numbers within the accounting system. 
>
> Because of consumption, most wealth (labor) is consumed immediately, 
> but the accounting system endures significantly longer, (unforgiven 
> debts, etc.,) because profit is a numerical transaction, and people 
> want to retain "advantageous" numbers. With the persistence of debt 
> and poverty, there is also the persistence of Inflation within the 
> accounting system as well. In my view, it is Inflation that is driving 
> everyone to destructive behaviors of self-survival. (The Interest 
> Mechanism) The only way to escape rising costs of living is to shift 
> these costs to someone else (and thus to another institution.) We all 
> end up playing the part of Scrooge, but we are battling a million 
> other Scooges. There is no way anybody can win in the long term 
> because it is impossible to cost-shift perpetually. The million 
> Scrooges (and inflation) will always win. Everybody and every 
> institution gets to experience loss. Thus, the system is rigged to 
> make everyone a loser. The appearance of winners and losers is an 
> illusion. Those moving up will eventually lose, and those that endure 
> the most are those with government privileges (artists and inventors 
> and landlords,) but they still have to live in an inflationary economy 
> with increasing levels of paranoia and pollution. They cannot escape 
> the blowback, either. 
>
> Inflation is related to all our political and social and environmental 
> problems. Why do the numbers grow? If the organizations have a budget 
> crisis, then the people must have one as well. Rather than seeing 
> inflation as a separate phenomenon of "the marketplace" we should see 
> it as a result of the marketplace. Since inflation is a man-made 
> phenomenon, the question then is how? In fact, it is not just 
> Interest, but it is profit as well that creates inflation. Both 
> involve the math 2+2=5. (A bust is when 5=2+2) The battle of the 
> Scrooges cannot end until we change what we "value" and how we value 
> things. All labor must be regarded as equal if men are to be equal.
>
> Another way to look at it: We are all suffering equally in a system 
> that doesn't work because we share common ideas. If we change our 
> ideas in regard to the thing that makes us suffer (money) then we can 
> all enjoy the beneficial changes equally. Using money as an incentive 
> (pollution credits, bribes, punishment,) simply perpetuates the 
> importance of money and the need for money downstream. We need to get 
> back to the idea of organizing labor for the common good and 
> commonwealth, but it needs to be a change the individual can do 
> without an institution, because the institutions are powerless just 
> like everyone else.
>
> The net effect is that we are all paying for the sins of previous 
> generations. They indoctrinated us into their madness (as they were by 
> their parents.) We can either repeat the same mistakes or correct them 
> for the benefit of the next generation. One thing is sure, if the 
> individual is unwilling to change, then there can be no change in 
> society. In the case of Interest, people only need to change how they 
> handle their surplus. It is a very easy change to make, since in most 
> cases the money is already at risk. People need to risk changing the 
> world, rather than just gambling pointlessly. The individual has to 
> lead, not the institutions.
>
> peace,
> Steve Consilvio
> www.behappyandfree.com
>
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