[GJM] Draft #32 Bill Ellis On The Inner Structure Of TOP (The Optimum Policy)
wesburt at juno.com
wesburt at juno.com
Sun Mar 4 16:58:55 MST 2007
Dear Old Friends on List FixGov, where non text is
always scrubbed.
Two interesting things happened when my Juno
software emptied the contents of all of my folders
into a single folder labeled: "restored: 02/24/07
(2795 files unread)". The first interesting thing was
that the lost draft of "#10 On The Inner Structure Of
The US Economy," appearing at the top of the twenty
three undated drafts, provided nine redundant view
points for looking at the thirty centuries old systemic
defect in our Judeo-Christian-Moslem-Protestant
culture as described on 02/24/07 in #31.
Only John Gelles replied to #31 when he wrote,
in part, on 02/25/07 "The US Economy":
Too bad we cannot get together, compromise and
and the many errors of our way:
"That is to say our errors amount to fucking
up all that Nature's God gave us when He
whispered to himself that the hydrogen he
created should evolve into something more
complex of which He might approve.
Unfortunately, Satan was behind Him, and
instantly made other plans."
John Gelles
~~~~~ End John Gelles on the first thing ~~~~~
[WSB Democracy without the law allows
concentrated power, and the drift to empire
soon follows. Satan had an easy task.
Just keep the public ignorant of the Law
from the time of King Rehoboam, BC 975, until
the second Great Depression predicted
by the financial experts on the Internet.
Each expert has a plan for surviving the
crash, but none want to discuss restoring
the law and avoiding the crash. WSB]
The second interesting thing remained hidden
until I reached the dated files, #24 through
2795, and found seven of Bill Ellis' messages
to list FixGov. All seven had been misdated
12/31/69 or 01/01/70 by some one, or some
thing, to place all seven at the top of the
#24 through #2795 dated messages as
tabulated below for your amusement, with
a few excerpts to convey a sense of the
level of systems analysis found on list FixGov.
Tabulation of "restored folder: 02/24/07 (2795 unread),
#1 through #23, undated drafts of previous messages,
including the "lost draft of #10" used in #31.
Seven messages from Bill Ellis misdated1969/70, with
contributions from John Gelles, Marguerite Hampton,
Graham Douglas, and Urban Kohler on list FixGov as
follows.
#24 of 2795: 31 Dec 1969, The Gaian Revolution.
John Gelles wrote:
> it's nice to know that Bill and Gaians see the possibility that earth's
natural and artificial systems could work well together if we were lucky
as hell. I think we will need to find experts who help us free ourselves
from the money power through prize juries and cost accounting and lots
more reform to come.
Bill Ellis replied:
Just a clarification. The Giaia theory of Lovelock and Margulis is not
about the social paradigm of people. It is a reasonably well proven
scientific theory that life on Earth is made possible by life on Earth.
For example, the oxygen in the atmosphere is maintained in the narrow
range of levels that are necessary for life. It is maintained at those
levels by living cells, and now plants, that produce oxygen. And by
physical feedback processes that remove oxygen if it gets to a too high
level and increase production if it get too low. Such feedback processes
work to keep the salt in the oceans, the radiation for the sun, the
temperature of the Earth, and other qualities of the Earth at life
sustaining levels. This is not the will of man, but the property of Gaia
(The Earth and all its life forms) -- the laws of nature.
#25 of 2795: 31 Dec 1969, renewable energy vs. zero point energy. On 09,
Jan 2007, Marguerite Hampton wrote:
> ... "Let's not let the renewable energy cartel deflect us
> from something that could be much better as the
> fossil fuel cartel has done in the interests of money." ...
#26 of 2795: 1 Jan 1970, the "New Atheists."
#27 of 2795: 1 Jan 1970, Re: Copernicus, Darwin and the cure for autistic
economics -- Kurt Cobbs y
Bill Ellis wrote:
Marguerite, we certainly are in step on the solutions and the causes. But
we come with very different postulates.
I do not think that we have to search deep into questionable science to
find the base of the solution. Quantum mechanics, free energy, zero point
energy, black holes, and other advanced and often questionable
concepts are not required. We do have to have common sense, and a minimal
faith in well accepted knowledge of the cosmos and it evolution. The
solutions have been in our field of knowledge and active in many cultures
other than the Euro American. Science is revealing some additional
concepts that gives that old common sense a more solid foundation. I've
tried to expand on that without getting too technical in a number of
essays. If anyone wishes to see and discuss those concepts they are on
URL: http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Bill_Ellis
Bill
On 08, Dec 2006, Marguerite Hampton wrote:
> ... I feel you are right about the Gaian paradigm being revolutionary
#28 of 2795: 1 Jan 1970, Re: ATTN; WOMEN AND HEART-CENTERED MEN
#29 of 2795: 1 Jan 1970, "Where do we start?"
#30 of 2795: 1 Jan 1970, Re: Re: Copernicus, Darwin and the cure for
autistic economics.
~~~~~~ End seven messages from Bill Ellis ~~~~~~
#31 dated 11/06/06. (1 file)
#32 dated 11/13/06 (8 files)
#39 dated 11/13/06
Bill's seven files were the only interesting thing
I could find in the tabulation of 2765 dated files.
#2794 dated 02/23/07
#2795 dated 02/20/17 (Notice the year 2017,
probably a type error)?
~~~~~~~~~ End tabulation ~~~~~~~~~~~~
Consultants cultivate the systemic problems and try to make the status
quo last forever. Serious system engineers search for the systemic
defects which cause human action to depart from human nature. Human
nature and the laws of nature have not changed over the last ten thousand
years. But the laws of nature have always been the proprietary knowledge
of Kings, Bishops, and Nobles. The CEOs of our corporations appear to
have reduced the law to practice in General Motors 1920s, in electric
power grids 1930s, General Electric 1940s, and the rest of the world
since the 1940s. Efficient decentralization of corporate operations has
made the US economy the envy of the world, even if it does produce too
much of the stuff most people don't want and too little of the stuff we
want and need.
But that widely observed result is not caused by faults in the money
system. It is caused by our governments not applying the same laws of
nature (financial rules) to human development that our corporations
consistently apply to capital development. What better way to drive the
public into debt and poverty than by keeping them ignorant of the
unchanging laws of nature? Where is P. J. O'Rourke, Libertarian author
of "On The Wealth Of Nations," reviewed by Daniel Gross in today's
Washington Post, and all the other Libertarians on the Internet when we
need their contribution to restoring free markets?
Of the many figures that have been on the Internet since 1994, without
being challenged, attached Figure 8i.gif most clearly illustrates how
departures from the law impair the free market and tilt the economic
playing field to favor the WHIPs. To save 3% on their tax rate, our
WHIPs have brought the US economy to its present condition, and Henry
Carter Adams was the last American economist to discuss the systemic
defect in his 1887 "Relation Of The State To Industrial Action". Are we
all on Satan's payroll?
Kind regards,
Wes Burt
TOP and TWP are cognoscible on
Dr. W. Curtiss Priest's web site at:
<http://www.epie.org/cyber-soc/default.htm>
TOP is GOOD --- TWP is EVIL
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