[GJM] Fw: Re: Beef and religion

[marguerite hampton]

 Dear Dr. Alam, 

 I have read about those you refer to below.  What you are asking me to do
is to believe in 
a "faith - based, divinized view" of history.  I much prefer a view based in
recorded history and
taken from either scrolls or inscribed tablets that reflect fact rather than
a culturally-biased view
from those who want to control and manipulate others using their "god" and
fear of death as 
tools of manipulation.  
.
I also prefer physiological and biological evidence to faith-based
culturally-biased information,
provided by those who want to use the "fear of God" along with the concept
of heaven and hell to manipulate and control.  

Neither do I want someone to have "died on the cross" for me.  I am
perfectly capable of taking responsibility for my own behavior.  

I also recognize my own "personal power" and my unlimited potential.  To 
deify/divinize" or worship someone or something is to transfer my power to
that person or thing; and to shift responsibility for my actions and
thoughts there. 

Please, do not ask me to be less than I am.  To do so is insulting. 

marguerite  .  .  .        
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
Date: 02/26/07 05:17:12
To: marguerite hampton
Cc: Discussion Forum for Global Justice
Subject: Re: Beef and religion
 
Dear Margurite,
 
Please also read about  Mary /Mariam, the mothes of Jesus, in the Holy
Qur_an. Kindly do not falsify the truth .Jesus (peace be upon him) was and
is real ( in the heaven) and her mother  Mary Peace be upon her was real.
 
 
 
Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
http://muhammad_mukhtar_alam.tigblog.org


ite hampton <ecopilgrim at aabol.com> wrote:


-------Original Message-------

From: Bill Ellis
Date: 02/25/07 10:03:51
To: marguerite hampton
Cc: Centre4Change; discussion at globaljusticemovement.net; Peace_ERA; FixGov;
GatherTheWomen; ConsilienceP
Subject: Re: Beef and religion

On 23, Feb 2007, at 6:33 PM, marguerite hampton wrote:
> For several months now, I have been working to compile "The Story of
> Beef" and its relationship to religion, ... [snip]
BE:ced
The relationship of beef (cows) to religion goes way back and way
forward.
In Mithras, the homd of St. Paul, cows were sacrificed on an alter.
Undher the alter young men gathered to bath in the blood and catch it
to drink. Paul took this practice to Christianity but turned it to
drinking human bloos -- the blood of Jesus. We still do it.

Eco: 

Bill, you are quite right. Women also bathed their faces in blood from 
the bulls sacrificed. In the Mithraic religion, the bulls were worshipped
for their virility and only the finest and largest bulls were sought out for

sacrifice. The bulls represented the "gods" of that era and it was felt 
that men could gain virility by drinking the blood of the bull. . 

Many of the traditions associated with the Mithraic religion such as 
blood sacrifice" were incorporated into Christianity as you say. For
example, The "Great Earth Mother" worshipped for millions of years 
as the "giver of life" became "Mary, The Virgin Mother" when Pope 
Constantine chose Christianity over Mithraism as the official religion 
of that time in 325, when the Council of Nicea took place -- as a tool 
to "social engineer" (enculturate) masses of people. 

Likewise, the bull then became a "human god" along with his son. The
Holy Ghost represented "human consciousness" for the ancients had 
no way of explaining at that time what they considered to be "spirit"
except through mythological representation. 
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