[GJM] debt/compound interest system,wasting unimaginable amounts of energy; not to,mention people's lives...PLEASE ADVISE ME???
EcoTort
ecotort at gn.apc.org
Tue Jul 31 17:38:44 MDT 2007
Many thanks Dan, I had a quick look and it looks good, will look further
when I get time after eviction of my theatre....
cheers from Nick (+:
Dan Parker wrote:
> There are several books that contain analyses of
> this issue.
>
> One of many is at
>
> http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~roehrigw/kennedy/english/
> <http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/%7Eroehrigw/kennedy/english/>
>
> Dan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* EcoTort <mailto:ecotort at gn.apc.org>
> *To:* Discussion Forum for Global Justice
> <mailto:discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2007 4:02 PM
> *Subject:* [GJM] debt/compound interest system,wasting
> unimaginable amounts of energy; not to,mention people's
> lives...PLEASE ADVISE ME???
>
> *is this correct, or am I completely deluded?
> please would the GJM forum correct my ignorance on this matter...
>
> cheers (+:
>
>
>
>
> roughly :-
> 1)one third of a person's wages goes to pay the mortgage,
> 2)one third is tax,
> 3)and the remaining third you get to spend...
>
>
> 1)if you borrow, say £100,000
> over 40 years as a mortgage
> to buy a house,
> you pay back roughly £400,000....
>
> this means that
> roughly two thirds
> of the third of your wages
> which is paying the mortgage
> is paying interest on that loan.
>
>
> 2)the bank of engalnd is a private company
> the government granted the **bank of engalnd **a license to print
> money **
> the government borrows money from the bank of england,
> the government pays interest on that loan.
> that interest is paid out of the third of your wages which is
> paying tax to the government.
> **
>
> 3)if you buy (for example) a china cup in a shop:-
>
> a)someone has borrowed money from the bank
> to set up a quarry
> to extract the china clay
> from the earth:
> they are paying interest **to the bank** on that loan
>
> b)someone has **borrowed money from the bank
> to buy a lorry
> to transport the china clay
> to the factory
> which makes the cups:
> **they are paying interest **to the bank** on that loan
>
> c)**someone has **borrowed money from the bank
> to set up **the factory
> which makes the cups:
> **they are paying interest **to the bank** on that loan
>
> d)**someone has **borrowed money from the bank
> to buy a lorry
> to transport the cups to the wholesaler:
> **they are paying interest **to the bank** on that loan
> *
> *e)**someone has **borrowed money from the bank
> to set up the wholesale business:*
> *they are paying interest **to the bank** on that loan
> *
> *f)**someone has **borrowed money from the bank
> to buy a lorry
> to transport the cups to the retailer:*
> *they are paying interest **to the bank** on that loan
>
> g)**someone has **borrowed money from the bank
> to set up the retail business:*
> *they are paying interest **to the bank** on that loan
>
> h)all of those people from a) to g) above...
> are paying interest to the bank on their mortgages.
>
> all these interest payments to the bank
> are coming out
> of the purchase price
> of the china cup....
>
> if we add **all these interest payments** together
> we find
> that
> on average
> conservatively speaking
> 50% of the price
> of ANY item we buy
> is due to interest
> being paid to the bank.
> **
> HENCE:
> **1)one third of a person's wages goes to pay the mortgage
> (ABOUT 75% OF YOUR MORTGAGE THIRD IS PAYING INTEREST TO THE BANK)
> 2)one third is tax
> (SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 10-20% OF YOUR TAX THIRD IS PAYING INTEREST TO
> THE BANKS)
> 3)and the remaining third you get to spend...
> **(ON AVERAGE, ROUGHLY 50% OF THE PRICE OF ANY MONEY YOU SPEND
> FROM YOUR SPENDING THIRD **IS PAYING INTEREST TO THE BANKS)
>
> ADDING 1), 2), AND 3) TOGETHER:
> WE FIND THAT WELL OVER HALF OF EVERYONE'S WAGES IS PAYING INTEREST
> TO THE BANKS, ON LOANS OF 'VIRTUAL MONEY' WHICH DOES NOT REALLY
> EXIST...
> *
> *
>
>
>
>
>
> Dan Parker wrote:*
>> *Agreed Rodney; and in the meantime there is lots to do*
>> *in regards to our debt/compound interest system *
>> *wasting unimaginable amounts of energy; not to *
>> *mention people's lives.*
>>
> *
> *
>
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