[GJM] BBC E-mail: The perpetual myth of free energy

[Dan Parker]

Agreed Rodney; and in the meantime there is lots to do
in regards to our debt/compound interest system 
wasting unimaginable amounts of energy; not to 
mention people's lives.

Dan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rodney Shakespeare 
  To: Discussion Forum for Global Justice 
  Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [GJM] BBC E-mail: The perpetual myth of free energy


  Dan,
  Further to your helpful comment.  The wind exists -- its force is harnessed by windmills;  tides exist -- their force is harnessed by tidal barrages; and gravity exists -- it plays an important role in dams and hydro-electricity. Forces exist and we harness them. The examples are myriad.

  And continuous magnetic forces exist -- they are very strong at close quarters.  For me the main problem is how to harness the magnetic forces which undoubtedly exist.

  So -- if the problem can be solved --  perpetual motion machines are not involved nor is over-unity.

  As regards Steorn, the jury has not yet reported.  Delusion is possible but fraud highly unlikely (Steorn does not ask for money and fraudsters don't make a hash of public demonstrations).  And as for hoax -- hardly likely when millions of pounds of investors' money is at stake.  

  It gets down to either delusion or Steorn still producing  somehing out of the hat.

  Rodney Shakespeare.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Dan Parker" <dan.parker at globaljusticemovement.org>
  To: <discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
  Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 2:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [GJM] BBC E-mail: The perpetual myth of free energy


  >I don't know why both sides in the debate
  > state a perpetual motion machine would
  > contradict the conservation of energy law.
  > 
  > It's pretty basic that the earth is not an
  > isolated system in thermodynamic terms.
  > 
  > Dan
  > 
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Robert Searle" <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk>
  > To: <discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
  > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:43 AM
  > Subject: [GJM] BBC E-mail: The perpetual myth of free energy
  > 
  > 
  > Robert Searle saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you
  > should see it.
  > 
  > ** Message **
  > More recent light on Steorn.
  > 
  > R.Searle
  > 
  > ** The perpetual myth of free energy **
  > Electrical engineer Professor Sir Eric Ash visits Irish company Steorn which 
  > claims to have developed a "free energy" device.
  > < http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/technology/6283374.stm >
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