[GJM] BBC E-mail: The perpetual myth of free energy

[Rodney Shakespeare]

Dan,
Further to your helpful comment.  The wind exists -- its force is harnessed by windmills;  tides exist -- their force is harnessed by tidal barrages; and gravity exists -- it plays an important role in dams and hydro-electricity. Forces exist and we harness them. The examples are myriad.

And continuous magnetic forces exist -- they are very strong at close quarters.  For me the main problem is how to harness the magnetic forces which undoubtedly exist.

So -- if the problem can be solved --  perpetual motion machines are not involved nor is over-unity.

As regards Steorn, the jury has not yet reported.  Delusion is possible but fraud highly unlikely (Steorn does not ask for money and fraudsters don't make a hash of public demonstrations).  And as for hoax -- hardly likely when millions of pounds of investors' money is at stake.  

It gets down to either delusion or Steorn still producing  somehing out of the hat.

Rodney Shakespeare.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Parker" <dan.parker at globaljusticemovement.org>
To: <discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [GJM] BBC E-mail: The perpetual myth of free energy


>I don't know why both sides in the debate
> state a perpetual motion machine would
> contradict the conservation of energy law.
> 
> It's pretty basic that the earth is not an
> isolated system in thermodynamic terms.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Searle" <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: <discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:43 AM
> Subject: [GJM] BBC E-mail: The perpetual myth of free energy
> 
> 
> Robert Searle saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you
> should see it.
> 
> ** Message **
> More recent light on Steorn.
> 
> R.Searle
> 
> ** The perpetual myth of free energy **
> Electrical engineer Professor Sir Eric Ash visits Irish company Steorn which 
> claims to have developed a "free energy" device.
> < http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/technology/6283374.stm >
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