[GJM] Too Optimistic

[Muhammad Mukhtar Alam]

Dear Marguerite ,
   
  Starting the dialogue in the new year with the old response . Your account on the birth of Christianity is wrong. Jesus PBUH was a messenger .His mother, the wife of Pharaoh,wife of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) were all pious women submitting to the will of Allah...who is niether begotten not beget. 
   
  I would like to request you to see them in the light of the communications through the last prophet. Please also see the analysis of the structures of domination in monotheistic ,atheistic and polytheistic perspectives . You may have a look at hte conceptual organisation posted at http://muhammad_mukhtar|_alam.tigblog.org where I have analysed structures of domination.
   
   
  I am sure you will realise the difference in the Islamic perscpective and the perspective of some who call themselves "Christians" without realising that Jesus was a Muslim..one who submitted to the commands of Allah.Muslims do not consider Jesus to be the son of God.
   
  I hope you will change the understanding of Islam in the light of this information and more information. It is difficult to change sometimes but still for those seeking right guidance, there are blessings.
   
  With best wishes 
   
   
  Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
   
  

marguerite hampton <ecopilgrim at aabol.com> wrote:
  I received three comments on "Too Optimistic" 

Thanks to Marilyn, Dan and Sharon for their input. 

Due to time constraints, I'm going to answer only 
Marilyn's question here from my point of view. 

Hope others will comment on Dan and Sharon's views. 

eco 


From: Marilyn Nyborg
Date: 01/12/07 17:56:55
To: ecopilgrim
Subject: Re: Too Optimistic?


The question perhaps is how do we motivate people to work it from the inner
as well as the outer? One would THINK conscious beings would use their
consciousness to work on the outer outcome in the world.

Blessings and you go girl! M

eco: Marilyn, statistics show that only about 25% of us are "whole brain"
thinkers, fully in touch with reality. Let's consider that each hemisphere
of the brain processes information differently and 
the majority of the people today have been taught, through education and the
dogmatism of 
religion, to use/emphasize only one side or the brain, the result would be
an unbalanced society out of touch for the most part with reality, wouldn't
it? 

This is quite detailed and complex, so I'm going to be very brief here --
But, if we go back to the Neolithic Age and study the goddess society as has
Riane Eisler, then we learn that in the Neolithic and Paleolithic ages there
existed a "peaceful matriachially -based partnership society" in which whole
brain thinking was the norm. Eisler's book, "The Chalice and the Blade"
traces the research of archaeologist Marija Gimbutas, (and others) as she
surveyed thousands of sites in and around Mesopotamia and especially in
Crete. The findings reveal a very advanced society which lived in
apartment-style buildings which featured indoor plumbing -- not as
sophisticated as today's, but superior to much of what followed. And the
artwork was far advanced 

This peaceful society was overrun by both Hebraic tribesmen and Aryans. The
goddess society ended as mainly, Kurgan men, who were of a warrior mentality
gained control over the world at that time using violence to accomplish
their end. The Kurgan's emerged out of what today is known as Russia. 

Thus began the "dominator paradigm" which served to overlay a new
consciousness upon humanity. This consciousness emphasized left-brain,
linear thinking as the men of that day destroyed the goddess and created a
male god and his son as supreme beings. Thus Christianity was born. The
goddess continued on in the form of the Virgin Mary, but her status was
greatly denigrated from that of the goddess "the giver of life 

The dethronement of the goddess was marked by blood; and as Gimbutas writes
in: "The Language of the Goddess" 

"is the greatest shame of the Christian Church". The witch hunt of the 15th
- 18th centuries is a satanic event in European history in the name of
Christ. The murder of women accused of witchcraft escalated to more than
eight million. . . .The use of any means of physical and psychological
torture to force confessions out of the accused was allowed. . . .This was
the beginning of the dangerous convulsions of androcratic rule which 460
years later reached the peak in Stalin's East Europe with the torture and
murder of fifty milllion women, children and men."

So, as I have written previously, Christianity did not come easily to the
world but was forced upon it
through the use of hideous means of torture. Something that has too easily
been forgotten as the reign of terror under androcratic rule continues to
this day. 

As I wrote above, this is the simple version and I shall treat it much more
elegantly and in multi-dimensional form in "The Sacred Quest". But the task
that lies before us today is to integrate both hemispheres of the brain, and
unite together equally the male and the female aspects of our beingness, so
that we become "fully conscious" and thus able to make multiple choices
overriding the basic in-built narrow choice of "fight or flight". Then, we
can once again live 
in a balanced society which may move forward into peaceful co-existence. 

So, I don't believe, Marilyn, that it is a matter of "inner" or "outer" --
it is more a matter of coming home -- acknowledging and embracing the
totality of who we really are. 

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From: Dan Robinson
Date: 01/12/07 15:56:29
To: marguerite hampton; twilken at mbay.net
Subject: Too Optimistic?


>Juan Santos writes: ....... [Al Gore] seemed oblivious to irony,
>saying of the US, "Our natural role is to be the pace car in the race
>to stop global warming." The feel good approach Gore pushes is dead
>wrong: Economic growth and saving life on Earth are not compatible
>goals. Industrial civilization isn't harming the Earth, it's killing
>the Earth. The system has long since passed the limits of growth - it
>can't be sustained. The Millennium Ecosystem Assessment, a four-year
>analysis of the world's ecosystems sponsored by the Worldwatch
>Institute, showed that 15 out of 24 ecosystems essential to human
>life are "being pushed beyond their sustainable limits," toward a
>state of collapse that may be "abrupt and potentially irreversible."
>These ecosystems and the civilization that is killing them are both
>approaching an endpoint. People are calling Al Gore's An Inconvenient
>Truth the most terrifying movie you will ever see - but really,
>Gore's film is a soft sell, one that underestimates the dangers we
>face and that veils not only the root causes of global warming, but
>the drastic military responses the US is planning in the event of an
>abrupt shift in the climate. Call it Category 4 denial.

I agree, but maybe Gore has a better idea of what the public can
accept, for now.

>Gore ignores the real problem. Global heating isn't "caused" by CO2,
>it's caused by industrial production and those that profit from it -
>capitalists in oil, gas, coal, electricity and automobiles, among
>others. And the system isn't "broken," no matter what Gore claims.

Then maybe we could pass the buck by going further back and saying
that global warming is caused by evolution of life on earth, just as
death is caused by birth and divorce by marriage. I think this may be
the reason we haven't, provably, heard from ET, because they don't
stay around long enough when they reach our level of technology. But I
tend to think CO2 also plays a part. By "isn't 'caused' by CO2" did he
mean CO2 doesn't have the cognition needed to be an intentional cause?

Of course what humans do here and now is the only part of this chain
of events that we're able to affect. I feel that for quite a while the
severity of global warming will depend on how much effort and
sacrifice we're willing to make, and how soon. Considering the
positive feedback effect, like with compound feedback debt, the effect
of each person's lifestyle can make a big difference in the future,
and the possible results are much wider, in both directions, than most
people see.

Dan Robinson

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Good Day,

There is a perspective that this is a political rally to get
sponsors for politicians such as Gore who use fear tactics like
insurance companies do. Acts of nature verses acts of god is even on
the agenda. So we have the pessimist doctrine professors such as Mike
Aubry at Cuyamaca College that says this is a hoax, a political hoax by
a politician who has never graduated from any environmentally conscious
accredited institution.

Seems to be a part of the primary and secondary grade curriculum though.

The animated movie, "The Ice Age I, II and what III?" is profiting out
of this concept too.

The DVD, "The Secret" is a good positive thinking motivational film to
purchase on the web for about $29.00. Energy vibrations affect the
higher self, if you think you will be late for work you probably will
be.

Investigate and do a one page essay on just your issue and concerns
described in detail using proper references and disprove these scare
tactics and change our universe!

Feel Good!
Sharon


 
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