[GJM] The Money Question

[E. Crockett]

--- Muhammad Mukhtar Alam <mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Dear Marguerite,
>    
>   Corporations and men owning them have more money
> generated from the usurious finance system. Allah
> has granted them the wisdom to use. If they do not
> use if for their own loss in the long run. Lots of
> poor and innocent all over the world are suffering
> as there are governments supporting the cuase of
> usurious finanance system .
> 
> marguerite hampton <ecopilgrim at aabol.com> wrote:
>   Urban wrote in part: 
> 
> 
> 
> Face it, we're screwed as long as the corporate
> bottom 
> 
> line is to create the greatest possible return for
> 
> shareholders in the shortest possible time.
> ironically
> 
> i think corporations are the answer, but
> corporations
> 
> with an entirely different agenda. But thats a long
> 
> harangue for another time. i hope somebody picks up
> 
> the thread of not so much focus on what a good
> system
> 
> would look like, but HOW TO GET THERE from HERE
> 
> ////URBAN
> 
> 
> 
> Urban, since the corporations control more money
> than
> 
> any other entity in the world, even god; and also
> control all 
> 
> of the financial systems that administer it,, it
> appears that 
> 
> some very powerful force must come into play in
> order to 
> 
> "upset the apple cart" so to speak. 
> 
> 
> 
> It also appears the only force powerful enough is
> the
> 
> double whammy of both economic and ecological
> collapse,
> 
> which will create chaos of a large enough magnitude
> to 
> 
> allow new systems to emerge with the successful
> one's
> 
> being like the "cream on milk" rising to the top. 
> 
> 
> 
> So, IMHO, it seems appropriate to focus attention 
> 
> toward new system designs, so when the opportunity
> arises.
> 
> we-the-people will be prepared to implement them. 
> 
> 
> 
> It also seems appropriate to have a number of
> proposals in 
> 
> the planning stages so that they can be tried on a
> smaller 
> 
> scale, so as to ensure their viability. 
> 
> 
> 
> I mean really, would we want to implement a
> large-scale plan
> 
> such as Robert Searle is proposing over on the
> Global Justice 
> 
> list prior to knowing that all the bugs have been
> worked out? 
> 
> What a disaster that could be. Perhaps trying out
> different 
> 
> systems in aggragated groups of small communities
> could 
> 
> offer a testing ground to detemine what works best
> in the best
> 
> interests of all concerned. 
> 
> 
> 
> And, then as I've mentioned previously, what type of
> energy 
> 
> system(s) are in place will play a huge role in how
> the monetary 
> 
> system is structured won't it? 
> 
> 
> 
> And, what type of system(s) is implemented will
> largely 
> 
> depend upon at what level of consciousness the
> majority of the 
> 
> population is operating at. I mean, whether we are
> still at Stage
> 
> 2 -- the "me" only stage; or whether we have been
> able to progress
> 
> to Stage 6 - (being in a state of universal
> consciousness) as a 
> 
> society. Universal consciousness meaning that a
> large proportion 
> 
> of the collective has been able to achieve the state
> of being of the 
> 
> "holographic mind" in which the individual or group
> mind is receiving 
> 
> more sensory input and therefore aware of more
> information 
> 
> upon which to base intelligent decisions. 
> 
> 
> 
> Anyway, just some ideas to play around with. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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