[GJM] Ron Paul and the Federal Reserve

[E. Crockett]

--- Rodney Shakespeare
<rodney.shakespeare1 at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Steve,
> You wrote:-
> "Binary Economics seems to believe that we need MORE
> centralized power."   
> 
> More centralized power?  What makes you think that?
> 
> Binary economics spreads  economic power.  Binary
> democracy is the usual vote plus economic democracy
> i.e. the control over your everyday life which comes
> from having an independent economic base.
> 
> Trying clicking on www.binaryeconomics.net or visit
> the Wikipedia page on binary economics.  When you've
> done that, we can discuss further if you want.
> 
> Rodney Shakespeare.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Steve Consilvio 
>   To: discussion at globaljusticemovement.net 
>   Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:27 PM
>   Subject: [GJM] Ron Paul and the Federal Reserve
> 
> 
>   What would Ron Paul replace the Federal Reserve
> with?  This is the same arcane idea that occurred
> 200 years ago between the First and Second National
> Banks.
> 
> 
>   He will replace the old bank with a new bank, and
> pretend that the new one is "different."
> 
> 
>   Mind you, I sometimes joke that Osama missed his
> target.  He should have hit the Fed, not the WTC. 
> Who knows, maybe that is where the fourth plane was
> going, but I doubt it.
> 
> 
>   In any case, the Fed only creates currency; it is
> "we the people" that create values (including
> inflation.)  It is the valuation of items that is
> the problem, not the currency being used in the
> valuation, and that is done privately.  We the
> People already have control of our destiny, but what
> is regarded as commonsense (profit) is actually
> nonsense.  2+2=5?
> 
> 
>   Even the terrorists are good capitalists.  The
> problem is not the existence or non-existence of
> organizations, but rather the ideas that drive them.
>  Ironically, profit is a grand consensus in
> business, in government, in non-profits (Orwellian
> named) and our in personal lives.  Financial profit
> is regarded as "normal" as the sunrise. 
> Unfortunately, this consensus is a grave error.
> 
> 
>   Changing the faces on the currency and changing
> the rules of who issues it does not change our
> inter-personal relations.  Imagine if a mother
> charged her infant to nurse on her breast.  That is
> essentially what ANY currency system creates.  It is
> the theater of the absurd, and we have all been
> indoctrinated to believe it is "normal."  Of course,
> it could be worse. A father or a stranger could
> force the child to pay for suckling his/her own
> mother.  That is probably closer to the situation we
> are in.  Nobody owns their own bodies, everybody is
> living in fear.  Even the slave-masters are living
> in fear.
> 
> 
>   Intellectually, revolution is a dead end.  What
> the world needs is enlightenment.  Historians often
> claim that the American Revolution came out of The
> Enlightenment or The Great Awakening.  Nothing could
> be farther from the truth.  The rebel is a blind
> man.  And American Democracy is based on the visions
> of the blind.  Nothing can be reformed without going
> back to the source and starting all over, the way
> that Solon tried to in Athens. He was not a rebel,
> he was chosen because of his wisdom.  It isn't
> enough to abolish the Federal Reserve, we need to
> abolish the entire legal system and the ideas that
> prop it up.
> 
> 
>   The big question is if anyone is willing to change
> their view of things, or if they will clutch to
> their old ways like straws while they drown in the
> consequences of their own choices.
> 
> 
>   One idea can change the world, just as one idea
> can destroy it.  The growth of the Fed idea is the
> World Bank, the WTO, etc., a huge Big Brother-like
> apparatus based on the belief that centralized
> control is better than decentralized control. 
> Multi-national corporations and world-wide NGO's are
> a reflection of the Big Brother banking/currency
> system.  This isn't a web of equals, it is a slave
> system without the harsh elements of racism and
> chains.  Numbers are the new chains.  
> 
> 
>   Binary Economics seems to believe that we need
> MORE centralized power.  If people can't use the
> power they have now wisely, then why would more
> power make them wiser?  Like a computer, power
> amplifies mistakes.  If there is no wisdom in the
> person, then there will be no wisdom in the choices,
> regardless of how much or little power they have. 
> Rather, we must use the power we now have wisely,
> and build from there.
> 
> 
>   peace,
>   steve
>   www.behappyandfree.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   On Aug 9, 2007, at 11:23 AM,
> discussion-request at globaljusticemovement.net wrote:
> 
> 
>     Rep. Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate
> who supports abolishing the Federal Reserve.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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