[GJM] Larouche -- interest-free loans for public capital -- Kucinich and the AMI

Thu Aug 9 13:06:50 MDT 2007

Dear Steve,

1.    Are you joking?   Kucinich follows Zarlenga?  Kucinich is behoven to Zarlenga because he married Zarlengas's researcher ? Purleez.  

Forgive me for being so blunt, but you've got things back to front.  Yes, Elizabeth Kucinich was Zarlenga's researcher but if you listen to Kucinich's speech to the AMI last year there is nothing about debt-free issuance.  Kucinich has had years of fighting for interest-free loan issuance (he's doing it at this very moment since the failure of that USA bridge),  he's done everything (legislation etc) for interest-free loans for public capital projects and I am not aware of him ever supporting debt-free issuance.  Any American politician who did that would be shot to pieces by opponents as being an inflation-monger and Funny Money specialist.  Get real.

The truth is that if the AMI wants to have Kucinich's continued, public support it will not be allowed to compromise Kucinich's political positions (and the Democratic party won't allow it either).  I am not aware of any evidence that Kuciinich supports anything except interest-free loans issuance -- the same as binary economics for public capital (but binary economics also supports the much wider use of such loans).

 Have a look at the speakers at last year's AMI conference -- all the main political and intellectual power there was for interest-free issuance --  Kucinich and Ken Bohnsack, in particular.  The AMI is now having to straddle two horses -- debt-free (its previous position) and interest-free (the impact of Kucinich, Bohnsack and colleagues).  My guess is that the situation will soon be out in the open because Kucinich (as Democratic Chairman of the key committee overseeing all USA domestic legislation) is not going to risk everything for something he has never (as far as I am aware) indicated support for.  Even more relevantly, he does not need to do anything except continue with interest-free loans -- since Katrina, and now that recent  bridge etc he's on a winner and he knows it.  Why stick a knife into your own winning horse?

I  think there has been a big change in the AMI's underlying position simply because Kucinich is refusing to be identified with debt-free issuance.  At some point this matter will break out into the open -- most likely at this year's AMI conference in Chicago. So time will tell and we shall see.

Of course, as soon as I say this Zarlenga will jump in to deny it. (And isn't it strange -- he did a Manhattan Neighbourhood tv program with me in which he gave solid support to  interest-free loans for public capital -- and explained the Grade D that the American Society of Engineers is giving to public infrastructure. Harold Channer and I would certainly have noticed if he was saying anything else.).

2.   I hear a rumour that Zarlenga and Michael Hudson will be attacking binary economics-- again.  The interesting thing is -- why?  It's very odd.  You cannot accuse binary economics of supporting inflation; it is focussed on the development and spreading of productive (and the associated consuming) power to all individuals in the population. It balances supply and demand.  In other words, it is fundamentally economically sound and that, presumably, is what Zarlenga and Hudson don't like.  Hudson also has a record of not having read the main binary book (in his possession) which explains why he does not know basic basic things like binary economics uses interest-free loans.

Yes, Robert Searle naturally (and understandably given his intellectual position) thinks that binary economics does not go far enough but that is an entirely different matter.

Rodney Shakespeare.

PS.  In other emails I shall be informing the GJM of the publication of The Modern Universal Paradigm and other news about The Universal Paradigm and website information.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Consilvio 
  To: discussion at globaljusticemovement.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:59 PM
  Subject: [GJM] Larouche -- interest-free loans for public capital

  On Aug 8, 2007, at 4:27 PM, discussion-request at globaljusticemovement.net wrote:

    I have tried -- and failed -- to get American binary economists to do a link-up with Kucinich. - Rodney Shakespeare

  Kucinich's wife Susan was a researcher for Stephen Zarlenga.  In fact, that is how they met.  Love at first sight, evidently.  Since Stephen rejects binary economics, chances are the Kucinich's will too.

  Kucinich is the only politician where there is the "possibility" of his making the right choices.  (I'm not totally convinced that he "gets it" entirely.)  But the reality is that people vote for people most like themselves.  Intellectual rigor, compassion and courage are not how you would describe the average American.  You might get two, but seldom all three.  Most people are short-sighted, proud and afraid of what they don't understand, and so politicians (of  various stripes) represent that unique and limited combination, aka the status quo of politically correct.

  I have tried to engage Zarlenga in a discussion going back a few years ago, but it was as difficult as getting others here to discuss binary economics critically.  People say more with their silence than they do with their words.  Politics is the realm of True Believers.  Everybody creates their own propaganda to convince themselves, and they want to hear an echo in the faces of others.  I, of course, am a madman, nobody wants to agree with me, and I don't really care if they do.  As Paine wrote: Time makes more coverts than reason.  We are only impatient when we are in error.

  Money is not the solution (interest free or not,) money is the problem.  The more everyone tries to "make things right," the worse they make it.  There is too much love for something that isn't real.

  If you overesteem great men, 
  people become powerless. 
  If you overvalue possessions, 
  people begin to steal.

  The Master leads 
  by emptying people's minds 
  and filling their cores, 
  by weakening their ambition 
  and toughening their resolve. 
  He helps people lose everything 
  they know, everything they desire, 
  and creates confusion 
  in those who think that they know.

  Practice not-doing, 
  and everything will fall into place. - Lao-Tzu 

  peace,

  steve consilvio

  www.behappyandfree.com

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