[GJM] Unity of Religious Ideals

JoAnne Van Datta vand at efn.org
Wed Sep 6 13:24:28 MDT 2006


Muhammad Mukhtar Alam wrote:

> Dear Robert, Complementing the sustainability concerns and other 
> raised in the mail of Marguerite , I would like to request to think 
> further on post *perto-modern age..*
> *I hope you understand..*
> ** 
> *Dear Marguerite..*
> ** 
> *While agreeing with the distress narrations,,I do not agree with your 
> understanding of Islamic societies ..as you have indulged in 
> homologation for /religion and religious systems based on the 
> understanding the 'hierarchical church'.../*
> *//* 
> */If you read the Quran, you will find that those who believe need to 
> exhort each other for judgements based on the standards of "piety" 
> only../*
> *//* 
> */The book as is there on the link of library at 
> /**/www.witness-pioneer.org/* <http://www.witness-pioneer.org/>
> *//* 
> ** 
>
>
> */robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk>/* wrote:
>
>     Dear Marguerite,
>
>     I agree with alot of your sentiments. I
>     cannot answer in detail at the moment. However, you
>     might like to visit the Venus Project. com in which
>     advanced technology can be human, and eco-friendly.
>     You will be pleased to know that it does not believe
>     in the necessity of money,or competative capitalism as
>     we understand it today. I regard Transfinancial
>     Economics as A TRANSITIONAL SYSTEM to such advanced
>     forms of social, economic, and political interaction.
>     This is something I do not think you full understand.
>
>     I am hoping you might write an entry on Wikipedia
>     about Holodynamics presenting all the key aspects in a
>     short but easy to read form without sacrificing the
>     major, and minor of the subject (plus key terms). You
>     will be doing all of us benefit.
>
>     R.Searle
>
>
>
>
>     --- marguerite hampton wrote:
>
>     > Robert, in this posting it asks re: corporations and
>     > their
>     >
>     > role in today's world.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > If we look closely at corporations, their success is
>     > based
>     >
>     > on the production of excess for sale as a first
>     > priority for
>     >
>     > the continued success of world trade. However, we
>     > are
>     >
>     > beginning to realize that world trade is not
>     > sustainable.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Coupled with production of excess for sale as first
>     > priority
>     >
>     > rather than production for self and community first,
>     > we then
>     >
>     > begin to realize that this is the driving force
>     > behind the
>     >
>     > unprecedented world migration taking place at this
>     > time
>     >
>     > with over 100 million people on the move as of 1997
>     > and
>     >
>     > possibly many more today as people are forced off of
>     > their
>     >
>     > lands to make way for corporate interests both
>     > industrial
>     >
>     > and agricultural. This practice increasingly
>     > deemphasizes
>     >
>     > the human being.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > And, of course, much of this is also caused by the
>     >
>     > replacement of human labor by technological advances
>     >
>     > which are more and more favored by the corporations
>     >
>     > as it allows them to make more profit since
>     > technology
>     >
>     > can be written off as capital expense and labor
>     > cannot.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > But, as we discussed previously, the migratory
>     > lifestyle
>     >
>     > may be a more natural one that is condusive to earth
>     >
>     > preservation rather than the current
>     > agriculturally-based
>     >
>     > one on tilling the soil and monocropping along with
>     > the
>     >
>     > excessive raising of beef cattle to feed a
>     > relatively
>     >
>     > small portion of the world's population. And which
>     > is
>     >
>     > accompanied by mechanical production of goods and
>     >
>     > services.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > It appears that in order to regain a balanced
>     > perspective
>     >
>     > it is imperative that we return to life based in
>     > small
>     >
>     > community endeavors where production for self and
>     >
>     > community is respected as the first order of the day
>     > as
>     >
>     > it revers life; whereas corporatization is about
>     > death.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > For those pondering this, I highly recommend Dr. Jay
>     >
>     > Earley's book: "Transforming Human Culture - Social
>     >
>     >
>     > Evolution and the Planetary Crisis" In this book,
>     > Dr.
>     >
>     > Earley argues that certain ground qualities were
>     > present
>     >
>     > at the beginning of our social evolution, e.g,
>     > natural living,
>     >
>     > community, equality, vitality, and a sense of
>     > belonging.
>     >
>     > However, as the human family sought more power in
>     > the
>     >
>     > world emergent qualities, e.g., technology, rational
>     > thinking,
>     >
>     > and social order -- including the powerful Global
>     > Monetary
>     >
>     > System -- arose and suppressed the basic qualities
>     > in such
>     >
>     > a way as to cost us our health and wholeness. Early
>     > suggests
>     >
>     > that the way forward is to integrate the basic and
>     > emergent
>     >
>     > qualities so as to create a healthy balance.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Biologically-speaking, we are not prepared to handle
>     > advanced
>     >
>     > technology as it was not a part of our world at the
>     > beginning
>     >
>     > of our social evolution. Due to this factor, we have
>     > become
>     >
>     > disproportionately dissociated from our natural
>     > environment
>     >
>     > and have become the destroyers of it.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > The basic qualities largely represented the feminine
>     > and the
>     >
>     > feminine was very much suppressed as the figure of
>     > the male
>     >
>     > god arose to head up the hierarchial structure of
>     > religion. For
>     >
>     > this the world is paying a terrible price.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > The role of the woman in society and in "patterning"
>     > the triune
>     >
>     > brain is extremely important in forming the natural
>     > "Christ - like
>     >
>     > consciousness" that is inherent within each human
>     > being from
>     >
>     > point of conception.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > For those seeking a way home, I cannot recommend Jay
>     > Earley's
>     >
>     > book highly enough.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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>
>
>     Friends,  In the interest of the evolution of human consciousness,
>     I heartily recommend the book: _The Unity of Religious Ideals_ by
>     Mursheed Hazrat Inayat Khan.  Perhaps this visionary work can help
>     tune Mohammad and Marguerite closer to a resonant wavelength.  I
>     will try to make time to select pertinent passages from it, as
>     well, as it is an historic effort toward inclusive wisdom. 
>
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