[GJM] Comments for Dr.Alam (Marguerite; Please exapnd the reading List) (Muhammad Mukhtar Alam)

marguerite hampton ecopilgrim at aabol.com
Mon Sep 4 21:29:58 MDT 2006


Dr. Alam wrote in part:  



Your search is like the search for "theory of everything".. I recall
StepheBibleking ..I wished you to 

see a book by Maurice Bucaulle on Quran,Bible and Sceince before you go
ahead with your work. 



Dear Dr. Alam.  Yes, in a way the Sacred Quest is a search for "the theory
of everything" -- however, 

while others have used different criteria for their search, I am focusing on
"human biology".for my 

thesis as to how the mind-field emmanates.  



Could we agree that there are several dimensions of consciousness: (1)
individual (2) cosmological;

(3) physiological/biological  (4) collective: (5) social/cultural, and (6)
spiritual, but that at the bottom 

of all fields of consciousness lies the human biological field.   



I also feel, Dr. Alam, that you are well read and extremely intelligent. 
Our differences and 

communication gaps appear to be mainly cultural in nature and could we but
develop a 

common language which unites our two views, could largely overcome any
differences IMHO. 



As to the book you mention: by Maurice Bucaulle on Quran, Bible and Science,
I feel it could

be very helpful since you indicate here that it approaches each from a
scientific view.  Is there 

a way you can provide me with a copy of the book?  



As for the Quran or the Bible, I do not wish to either include or preclude
them at this point as 

there is no specific scientific point of view brought out in either of them.
 However, that does 

not mean that some of the mythology in them does not have basis in science,
but I feel this is 

exactly what we want to carefully reveal. I have included two books
involving Buddhism which demonstrate its basis from a scientific point of
view.  In "The Universe In an Atom" the Dalai 

Lama compares Buddhism to Quantum Physics.  And in "The Quantum and The
Lotus". 

Mattheiu Ricard, a molecular biologist and now a Buddhist Monk and 
translator for The Dalai 

Lama, discusses Buddhism and Quantum Physics with acclaimed astrophysicist:
Trinh Xuan

Than, who was born into a Buddhist family in Viet Nam.  When they first met,
they began to 

compare the things Buddhism and science have in common, and in this book,
they continue 

this dialog.  It would be very interesting to do this with regard to the
Quran. 



However, I would like to make it clear that I am not interested in going
into issues related to 

morality -- and you seem very much oriented to that viewpoint. Since I am
authoring this book, 

I ask that your respect my views on this and that we stick to what science
can prove in the field of 

human biology and consciousness as we search for new meaning together. 



marguerite 



Dear Robert and Marquerite ,

 

Greetings for peace,

 

I noted some typographical mistake in my post dated 1 September, 2006. I am
correcting the same in the quoted post of mine..2

 

With best wishes and regards

 

Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam

 

robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

 

 

----- Original Message ----

From: robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk>

To: mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com

Sent: Friday, 1 September, 2006 9:10:00 AM

Subject: Re: [GJM] Comments for Dr.Alam (Marguerite; Please exapnd the
reading List)

 

Dear All,

 

Without a fuller understanding of esoteric knowledge as indicated in
Multi-Dimensional Science "New Age" ideas based on advanced physics will
always be very limited. Yet, they are a step in the right direction but like
Holodynamics (et al) will remain essentially incomplete though their
proponents would ofcourse state otherwise.

 

Moreover, MDS offers literally for the first time a system in which the
non-physical could arguably be proven indirectly via controlled experiments.
This too is a step in the right direction as far as humanity is concerned.
It has never been done like this before. With a more objective, and 
scientific" comprehension of the Unseen many existing forms of meditation,
or spiritual technologies (eg Holodynamics ofcourse in this case) would be
dramatically ENHANCED.

 

MDS is not just another invention. It is the invention par excellence on
which present science has no choice other than to adopt in the future if it
is serious about the advancement of humanity.

 

R.Searle.

 

 

----- Original Message ----

From: Muhammad Mukhtar Alam <mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com>

To: Discussion Forum for Global Justice <discussion at globaljusticemovement
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Cc: Arshi Aftab <mukhtararshi at yahoo.co.in>

Sent: Friday, 1 September, 2006 8:00:44 AM

Subject: Re: [GJM] Comments for Dr.Alam (Marguerite; Please exapnd the
reading List)

 

Dear Margurite,

 

Greetings for peace,

 

I have spent my critical time in responding to your mails and I am sure you
also have done the same..I have read quite some of the titles that you refer
I have done my disseration after looking for prescriptive and diagnostic
propositions..Your search is like the search for "theory of everything".. I
recall Stephen Hawking ..I wished you to see a book by Maurice Bucaulle on
Quran,Bible and Sceince before you go ahead with your work. There are many
notions derived from the readings of the holy texts that are not at all
correct..

 

Please also include the Holy Quran in your reading list .That is also a
text..rather a text recited and read daily by billions .Is not it important
to have a careful look..I am quite well read ..and I am in discussion also
becuase I have read books across the dsciplines, domains, religions and
ideologies..

 

Your understanding of the "Allah" is not correct as that is a word in Arabic
for the Eternal Creator ,who was niether begotten not beget..Allah is known
with several synonymous names in other laguages ..Om is a Sanskrit word.
that is used sysnomiously...Allah/.../....///the Creator of the worlds,
biologies,ecologies, systems,...that we learn to investigate is Absolute..in
the beginning and the End.

 

I would like to seek better understanding of the communications of the word
of Allah, noted in the holy texts..Please see the Holy Qur'an..There are
contexual commands with eternal implications ..at the same time there are
matters that are defined for us with reference to the origin of the Creation
It is stated that the knowledge of Qur'an is the best knowledge..I went
back to Qur'an only in 1992 .There are many who have not read the Book but
then have opinions..I would like to repeat my request to you for having a
moratorium for reading the Book..the Mother of Books...

 

Allah is not a deity..as you mention in your letter dated 27/8..Deities as
know were like as men and women with limited life..and they will be as
accountable to their deeds in their life as we are for our on the Day of
Judgement ..Worship of idols, I am sure , you know is no..no for all who
believe in the word of Allah..We can have respect for each other.. we never
have unconditional positive regard in the normal situation..in case there
are needs for mutual enjoining and exhortation..

 

I forget another point from the letter but that also showed that you were
not aware of the communications of the words of Allah..For pleasing the
rejectors of the communications, I am not sure , if even the
nanotechnological outputs for explaing the Implicate Order with a design.
will be good enough to let them say

 

no to usury..

no to adultery..

no to homosexuality

no to usurious finance system

no to exhibitionist consumption

 

therefore, it is very wise to suggest a practice that will help in
transformation of the consumption,behaivour,production pattern that is
eternally safe and ecologically secure

 

You may see a paper of mine analysing the movements across the world at www
worldunitydays.net posted for discussion at first virtual congress on world
citizenship and democratic global governane..

 

With best wishes and prayer for temporal and eternal wellbeing

 

Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam

New Delhi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

marguerite hampton <ecopilgrim at aabol.com> wrote:

 

Dear Dr. Alam,

 

Thank you for your Greetings for Peace and I return them.

 

Re: "Your responses". Please keep in mind that I am writing a book on the

scientifically-based biology of human consciousness. I have undertaken this

as a project to further explore the realm of Holodynamics which began with

Dr. Vernon Woolf. And, please remember that I am using information

gathered from scientists whose work has been validated.

 

For thousands of years, the knowledge of consciousness was "faith-based"

because science lacked the ability to examine the interactions of the human

brain and body to determine how consciousness emerged. Now we have

arrived at a time in history where new instrumentation, much of it developed

by NASA in its efforts to learn more about outer space, allows us to measure

and record the subtle energy vibrations of inner space in such a way as to

learn about human consciousness and how it has evolved over eons of time.

As the science-based paradigm emerges, many people are unwilling to go

along with "faith-based religion" as presenting a valid view of reality.
Many of

those you call "atheists" are simply looking for sound vaid premises from
which

to view the world.

 

While human consciousness was previously thought to exist primarily in the

brain, scientific research is now revealing that intelligence exists

throughout the body. And, consciousness emerges in several different forms,

particle, wave, or holodynamic (gestalt) according to how the body and the
brain

are entrained or integrated.

 

As I have iterated previously, this has tremendous implications for society;

particularly with regard to how we meet the unprecedented challenges of
today

as we fact ecological collapse and loss of our life support system. As

Albert Einstein said, "We cannot solve the problems using the same methods

that brought us here". And what brought us here is linear left-brain or
particle

thinking. Remember Dr. Paul McLean's words in Triune Consciousness as

he revealed to us that the majority of people are linear left-brain thinkers
--

thus they can only view life from a very narrow scope. We must broaden

our vision and learn to see the "whole dynamic" of any given situation so

as to be able to make viable intelligent decisions.

 

After reviewing several hundred books and articles related to this subject

over the past 6 - 8 months, I found the following to contain the most
enlightening

information backed by scientific research.

 

The Dance of Life - Dr. V. Vernon Woolf - Psychologist

The Biology of Belief - Dr. Bruce Lipton - Cellular Biologist

The Biology of Transcendence - John Chilton Pearce - Researcher

Molecules of Emotion - Dr. Candance Pert - Molecular Biologist

Transforming Human Culture - Dr. Jay Earley - Psychologist

Smart Moves - Dr. Carla Hannaford - Biologist

Infinite Mind - Dr. Valerie V. Hunt - Psychologist and Physiobiologist

Assorted articles by cellular biologist - Dr. Mae-Wan Ho

Assorted articles by neurobiologist - Dr. Paul McLean

Quantum Healing - Dr. Deepak Chopra - Medical Doctor

Assorted books by Ken Wilber, author of approximately 18 books on the study

of human consciousness.

The Universe Story - Brian Swimme, Cosmologist & Fr. Thomas Berry, Ecozoist

The Universe in a Nutshell - Stephen Hawking

The Universe in an Atom - The Dalai Lama

The Dancing Wu Li Masters - Gary Zukov - Quantum Physics

The Field - Lynne McTaggart - Researcher

Morphogenetic Fields, Dr. Rupert Sheldrake - Biologistg

t

The Web of Life - Dr.Fritjov Capra - Biologist

The Quantum and The Lotus - Matthieu Ricard - Buddhist Monk & Trinh

XuanThuan - Astrophysicist.

The Afterlife Experiments - Dr. Gary E. Schwartz - a Professor of Psychology

Surgery, Medicine, Neurology, and Psychiatry

Be Careful What You Pray For, You Just Might Get It - Dr. Larry Dossey,
Medical Doctor

 

I have not included the work of many eminent researchers into quantum
physicists here

since Dr.Woolf laid the groundwork for this field, along with that of the
world as a hologram.

in his books: Holodynamics and The Dance Of Life.

 

If you can provide scientifically-based information for this project, Dr.
Alam, I will be

happy to review it for incorporation into The Sacred Quest.

 

As to "sustainability" - The Sacred Quest is planned as a trilogy -- the
first book being

the scientific study of the field of biology and understanding human
consciousness in

all of its dimensions. The second in the series will be on maintaining the
body/mind in

peak operating condition so that we are always operating in the form of "our
full potential

self" so that we have optimum brain/mind power at our disposal. The third
book will be

on how to achieve sustainable living in our homes and communities on a world
wide scale,

as we learn how to apply what we have learned about both human and earth
consciousness.

 

We also need to be able to apply this knowledge ASAP And Dr. Woolf
designedes

Holodynamics so the effects of it could be implemented by an individual or a
group ism

almost immediately. And, as opposed to NLP, the individual does the
transformation

process her/himself. The seminars demonstrate how one may do this and how to
become

more proficient in it by developing a "more authentic self". .

 

Also, Holodynamics has been compared to all other forms of transformational
healing.

Research has shown that there are 20 different constructs of consciousness,
in the form

of both manifest and unmanifest mechanisms. Holdynamics has been designed to
reach

all 20 constructs whereas all other forms of treatment reach on an average
of only 7 - 8

constructs. At this point, Dr. Woolf's work stands alone in the field of
transformation for

the "collective consciousness".

 

I am sorry but, I do not recall making mention in my post of Bush's thousand
points of life.

 

In peace and with love

 

Marguerite



 

 

Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:01:28 -0700 (PDT)

From: Muhammad Mukhtar Alam <mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [GJM] Giftegrity and Reciprocity reposted from SynEarth

with comment from Marguerite

To: Discussion Forum for Global Justice

<discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>

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Dear Marguerite,

 

Greetings for peace,

 

I hope some of my responses will be found in order with reference to the

Consciousness of Jesus ,Peace be unto him (PBUH), the son of Mary (PBUH) and

the messenger of Allah/God/..the Creator of all the seven skies and

firmanents of Earth..I have read your propositions thoroughly and I would

like to write in detail some comments for your post on triune consciousness

consisting of particle.wave,presence dimension of consciousness..I was

comparing my own consciousness as one who endeavours to follow the

communications of Allah recorded for us through the holy books..

 

What is this thousand lights of George Bush that you refer in your post..

 

marguerite hampton <ecopilgrim at aabol.com> wrote:

Dear Marguerite ,

Tomorrow, I will go into this in great detail. When the brain is

perfectly entrained, what naturally emerges is a human consciousness that I

have begun to refer to as "the Christ Consciousness" -- it is a

consciousness that is "all-knowing and all-seeing". And, from all

apperances, can be achieved by anyone. As we go deeper into this, we will

also come face-to-face with Zero Point Energy.

In peace and with love,

marguerite

 

The Consciousness of Jesus (PBUH) was inspired with the revealation from

Allah/..God/../ ..

p-brane with dimensions are guided..

 

For us we need the guidance for acheiving those dimensions..Prayer 5 times

a day is the best instrument..Those seeking more pleasure pray more and seek

the contenance of Allah/God/...

 

 

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