[GJM] #10 John Gelles On The Inner Structure Of TOP (The Optimum Policy)
Wesley S. Burt
wesburt at juno.com
Wed Oct 25 12:30:38 MDT 2006
Hello again Charles,
It has been a long while since you wrote:
Shalom, Wes. You were right about the tithes.
You are right, Charles, in your message below.
I should have written:
.... can claim "mission accomplished" only
in the cases of Japan and West Germany.
Thanks again for your comments, Charles.
The systemic defect in human affairs has
been preserved for 2981 years; first by the
Jews, then by the Catholics, then by the
Muslims, lastly by the Protestants,and
presently by the WHIPs in all five (including
Humanism) of our Western religions. Only
the Swiss appear to have secretly corrected
the defect for 200 years, the US for a century
as an agrarian solution as in the days of Moses,
and the industrial solution in Japan and West
Germany seems to have lasted only three decades.
I am a fool for thinking my visual-aids could
break the taboo preserved for 2981 years by
the principle of Subsidiarity (a welfare-net instead
of an adequate investment in human development).
Kind regards,
Wes Burt
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:28:32 -0500 Charles <yacob at datasync.com> writes:
"Wesley S. Burt" wrote:
Dear John Gelles and all of Warren Buffet's idiots, Again our paths
cross and no one comments on how closely we approach agreement.
Icompletely share your 19 Oct 2006 assertion to lists VOW and cyber-soc
that to restoreour society to good order requires both; a subsidy to
raise wages, and, cost-plus pricingto assure enough production for a
sustainable prosperity. Your eloquent post of 22 Oct 2006 expanded your
subject to include US policy in Iraq, and included an expert article by
Michael Rubin which concluded as follows:"Exit strategies might seem
easy, but--like the 1989 Taif Accords and the failure to topple Saddam in
1991--they are irresponsible and replete with long-term consequences.
What is needed in Iraq is reconsideration of the resources and arameters
conducive to long-term victory, not a repeat of short-term solutions that
will almost certainly fail.
Michael Rubin, editor of the Middle East Quarterly, is a resident scholar
at the American Enterprise Institute.
This item is available on the Middle East Forum website, at
http://www.meforum.org/article/1034
~~~~~ End excerpt from Michael Rubin ~~~~~
Your writing, John, and that of Mr. Rubinraises a fundamental question
that is notbeing addressed any where in the mediaor on the Internet.
That question is: howcan the US Establishment hope to provide democracy,
liberty, and justice to the Middle East and elsewhere in the worldif they
do not first provide democracy,liberty, and justice to American
citizensand taxpayers as an example? Thenumerous US examples of "nation
building;"beginning with the reconstruction of theformer Confederate
States in 1865 andcontinuing through the Spanish Coloniesand the 1930s
Depression to the presentoccupation of Iraq, can claim
"missionaccomplished" only in the cases of Japan and Germany.
Greetings Wes,
I am sending this to you. You can send it out to the groups if you
want to.
You gave a very fine rebuttal and I appreciated that someone finally
made the points
that you made.
However, I disagree on one point in your rebuttal. In my view your
statement "[the
US] can claim 'mission accomplished' only in the cases of Japan and
Germany." Had
Turban not had Eisenhour put Patton on a lease your statement would be
true for Japan
and Germany. But by holding Patton back, the Rusks won the war with
Germany and
we fully repatriatiated the Rusks. We helped slightly in Germany, but
unlike Japan,
German repatriation was primarily due to German ingenuity. We sent [I
forget his name]
to Japan to teach them "just-in-time inventory" and quality control --
which we have
failed to use. IBM tried with their "COPICS" soft-ware but failed at it.
Also bear mind that the Rusks entered the Pacific war near the end
and wanted
Japan very much. This time Turman did not put a lease on Mac Arthur
until the General wanted to clear the Rusks out of China. The mold had
already been set that attacking the
Rusks is a no, no -- so the "Old Solider" had to fade away. In addition,
since then all of
our military moves have had to cleared by a high Ruskie General beginning
with Korea
and Viet Nam. Which, by the way, is why the US cannot win a guerilla
type war.
Shalom,
Charles
In view of our 2981 yearold Christian principle of "Subsidiarity,"which
proscribes the full capitalization ofhuman development, the three
decadeeconomic miracles of Japan and Germanywere just that, miracles. But
as even Warren Buffet's idiots know by
now, any subsidy to raise wages above thepoverty level has been
proscribed for 2981years; first by the Jews, then by the Catholics,then
by the Muslims, lastly by the Protestants,and presently by the WHIPs in
all five (includingHumanism) of our Western religions. Only afterWW-I,
The 30s depression, WW-II, and theholocaust did Japan and the Euro
nationsadopt subsidies proportioned to the numberof dependents supported
by a worker, toenable their three decade long economicmiracles. It seems
strange to me that ofour five Western religions only the RomanCatholic
Church has followed ThomasPaine's proposal of a "family wage" in
theirpublished literature since 1891. But I neverhear the "family wage"
mentioned by Catholiccitizens of the United States or Catholicmembers of
Congress. Perhaps we will hearmore about the "family Wage" as the
HolyRoman Empire is restored in Europe. As to cost plus pricing, each of
the corporations
I worked for between 1947 and 1985 (General
Electric and nine defense contractors) calculateda competitive price by
adding a 30% of sales
markup to their direct manufacturing cost. That isto say, a competitive
price = Mfg. cost divided by0.70 to secure the 30% gross margin required
tocomfortably cover the preproduction costs ofengineering and
development, the fixed costsof executive compensation, and a 10% of
salesaverage profit from 1947 to 1987 as shown bythe attached
Fig15Hixson.gif. You are absolutely right, John, when you say:
"If we can perform the engineering feats
all around us, we can reconcile prices,
wages and profits. It's not rocket science
or brain surgery. It's simple stuff -- and we
did it (and do it) nearly every time we really
have to (or perish)." But equally interesting,is the fact that we have
been doing it for atleast a century in the world's private sectorsto
create a seem less global economy withlaissez faire free markets and free
trade thatworks quite well for the private sectorcorporations only,
because the nationalprivate sectors have satisfied the
technicalrequirements for free markets. You areright in saying: "the
magic of laissez fairefree markets and free trade is a myth." Butthe
magic has been realized by our privatesector corporations only; while our
nationalgovernments, with the exception of the Swiss,continue to violate
the "simple stuff" thatwould enable the magic in our public sectors. If
we want to bring together people of Faithand people of Reason so that
issues may bedecided by forceful majorities, rather than 49-51 splits of
the voting public, we need a betterconceptual framework than the common
Left-Right arguments. Such a framework mustinform the voting public of
both our historicalevolution and those "Laws of Nature and ofNature's
God" that have remained constantwhile we were evolving. I have heard it
saidthat human nature has not changed over thelast ten thousand years, so
some of the factsin our oldest history book must still be valid. The
conceptual framework presented inattached Figures 7, 8, and 9 of file
Fig7-9k.gifhas survived twelve years of exposure on theInternet, and has
not been matched anywhereon the Internet or in the Media. Every one
hashis own sources for verifying the historicalaccuracy of the Whole
Divine Law. But thegeometric relationship between preproductioncosts, no
load or fixed costs, and variableproduction costs as illustrated in
figures 8and 9 are the key to stable free marketsoperating with minus 1%
inflation and plus 1%unemployment, as experienced by Japan andGermany
during their economic miracles. Theincreasing workers margin shown in
Figure 9,as production increases, assures that workerswill be driven to
intense competition instead ofcooperation, until the fixed costs of
subsistenceare capitalized to the same extent that we havecapitalized the
fixed costs of universal educationin our public sector. Just as
preproduction andfixed costs have been capitalized in our privatesector
corporations since Henry Carter Adamsexplained increasing returns to
scale in his 1887paper, Relation Of The State To Industrial Action.
Again, John, how can we establish democracy,liberty, and justice in the
Middle East if we willnot even discuss restoring it for Americans athome?
The US enjoyed stable free marketsoperating with minus 1% inflation and
plus 1%unemployment from colonial times until the1890s as an agrarian
nation, so who objectsto restoring that mode of economic operationat home
and abroad for an industrial nation? Kind regards, Wes
Burt~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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