[GJM] Fair Trade and the global moral order

Muhammad Mukhtar Alam mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 11 02:36:15 MDT 2006


Dear Robert, 
   
   
  I donot think we need to be hopeless about the change .It is more important to take the right position. If you have read the holy Quran, you would have read the story of the son of Noah (PBUH) and the wife of Lot (PBUH). There are verses where Muhammad (PBUH) has been instructed not to worry about the rejectors of the communications as guidance is from Allah..
   
  You appear to be suggesting that let us give in to machinations of the atheistic neo-liberal capitalists and seek doles from the banks ..created for multiplying the usurious money..NGOs and coalitions against poverty can only campaign..but there has to be more politcal force for change.
   
  Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam

robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
  Dear Yaseen,and Co,

Whether we like it, or not the competative
capitalism of today is too well entrenched for any
real change. It is largely useless to talk about
fairer cooperative type capitalist systems involving
better wealth distribution if we are SERIOUS ABOUT THE
SURVIVAL OF HUMANITY, AND INDEED, THE PLANET ITSELF.
Time is against us.

In Transfinancial Economics we have important
solutions.

i) Present day competative capitalism would become
much more powerful BUT finance for smaller companies
in the way of business grants, and interest free
grants would become more accessible as never before.

ii) As already explained future NGOs concerned with
fairer wealth distribution would become very powerful
as never before. The reason being is that they would
have the necessary capital created as new unearned
money so that they become a much greater influence on
public opinion through their various campaigns.

The above would probably result with a Positive
Engagement of Banks,and Corporation rather than via
Negative Engagement. The former was explained in a
somewhat superficial, and incomplete manner onsite.
Yet, I still feel it is the way forward......IF AGAIN
WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THE SURVIVAL OF HUMANITY, AND THE
CONTINUANCE OF THE PLANET AS WE KNOW, AND UNDERSTAND
IT.



R.Searle





--- Yaseen wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> As Ros notes below, we believe that many of the
> ideas we need for the future are already around.
> Fair trade, of course, is one of these ideas, and it
> contrasts sharply in its moral foundations with that
> other idea of free trade. The one is moral, the
> other immoral.
> 
> The morality of fair trade, we believe, is based
> on principles of responsibility on the one hand, and
> mutuality on the other. The immorality of free trade
> is based on greed and justified by a competitive
> dogma about markets; the winners need feel no
> remorse for the losers. The struggle between
> responsible mutuality and irresponsible competition
> pervades history, and we have the history of moral
> development to look to for evidence of the moral
> underpinning of fair trade. To illustrate:
> 
> As Confucious put it 2,500 years ago;
> 
> "What Heaven has conferred is called The Nature;
> an accordance with this path is called The path of
> duty ... When one cultivates to the utmost the
> principles of his nature, and exercises them on the
> principle of reciprocity, he is not far from the
> path. What you do not want to be done to you, do not
> do to others."
> 
> and Muhammad over a thousand years later;
> 
> "Woe to every BACKBITER, Defamer!
> Who amasseth wealth and storeth it against the
> future!"
> 
> "The DESIRE for increasing riches occupieth you 
> Till ye come to the grave"
> 
> Woe to those who STINT the measure ... in the
> balance ye should not transgress.
> Weigh therefore with fairness, and scant not the
> balance."
> 
> We are now another 1400 years into history: and
> the question of the ages is still before us; which
> ideology will underpin our relations as humanity
> moves decidedly into an era of global
> interconnectedness; will it be fair trade or free
> trade?
> 
> Ian Brown
> 
> Rosamund Stock wrote:
> These are the latest details of our
> conference:
> 
> This is our next conference. We'd really
> appreciate any help with publicising the event, if
> you could circulate the details that would be great.
> 
> 
> FAIR TRADE AT THE CROSSROADS
> After Nestle, where next?
> 
> A conference at the London School of Economics
> www.thenetworkproject.org.uk/conference.htm
> 
> 28th OCTOBER 2006, 11-4
> Contact: 0845 458 0610; r.e.stock at lse.ac.uk; or
> register online.
> 
> A conference about the challenges and
> opportunities that have come with the success of
> Fair Trade.
> 
> Speakers: Claude Moraes, MEP
> Paul Chandler, Chief Executive, Traidcraft
> Whitni Thomas, Triodos Bank
> Meredith Cochrane, Fair Trade Foundation
> 
> The Network Project researches and develops the
> political dimension
> to recent social innovations.
> We are a small group of enthusiasts who believe
> that many of the ideas we need
> for the future are already around.
> 
> Rosamund Stock
> Conference Coordinator
> 
> Attached EleafletFT.doc and FTflyerFT.doc
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