[GJM] Systemic Balance (was: Re: #14 Replies to #13 Brad Edmonds On TOP And TWP (robert searle)

[JoAnne Van Datta]

 RS:
Soul intelligence has great difficulty remembering its home.
Dense clouds cover the stars.
Civilizations build and crumble in place.
The dust of that destruction work burns our eyes.
We need to live with the great longing
that purifies love and opens the eye of mystery
that sees the beginning and end at once.
Rumi   

Maybe this will help?
In good faith,
JoAnne
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robert searle wrote:
> Dear MH,
>
>         I will not be able to go into detail, but I
> feel that even if we have had some sort of global
> disaster it is unlikely to change people much at the
> end of the day. They would probably ultimatelhy go
> back to their old ways of doing things....and the
> whole cycle begins again!!
>
> I expect you have heard of the Brahma Kurmaris and
> their version of Raja Yoga. They believe that the
> world is going to experience some global disaster in
> which landmassess would disappear under the sea, and
> later re-emerge. A new civilisation would then somehow
> start! Ofcourse, there are other similiar claims made
> in the worlds mythologies notably in connection with
> the universal flood legends.
>
> Regards,
>
> R. Searle
>
>
>
> --- marguerite hampton <ecopilgrim at aabol.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Robert Searle writes in part: 
>>
>>  
>>
>> d)I understand your disgust for politics, and
>>
>> politicians, and just simply going your own way by
>>
>> following a simple sustainable lifestyle. However,
>> to
>>
>> suggest that some "natural" and/or man-made disaster
>>
>> would possibly bring about such a world out of
>>
>> necessity is somehow immoral. It could well happen
>> but
>>
>> whether it would remain "self-sustaining" is another
>>
>> matter. It would really depend on how devasting the
>>
>> disaster was, and how damaged the former economic
>>
>> system had become.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert, having become familiar with how the
>> body-mind
>>
>> works and the concept of the "the whole universe in
>> a
>>
>> single atom" I view the Earth as an intelligent and
>> living
>>
>> organism of which we, as humans, are a "sub-system".
>>
>>
>>
>> As such, the "Earth system" and the "Human system" 
>>
>> (both are, in reality, field effects) which are in
>> constant 
>>
>> communication with one another via subtle
>> vibrational
>>
>> (electromagnetic) frequencies which strive at all
>> times
>>
>> to maintain "harmonic resonance" which might also be
>>
>> translated as "balance".  
>>
>>
>>
>> When one or the other of these entities gets out of
>> balance,
>>
>> the other strives through a natural and implicate
>> order to
>>
>> bring things back into balance.  In the context of
>> the "big
>>
>> picture" Global Climate Change is such an
>> orchestrated 
>>
>> event put on to benefit both the human family and
>> the 
>>
>> Earth .  Such an event opens up the opportunity for
>> us
>>
>> (the Human system) to increase our intelligence
>> through
>>
>> a learning experience.  The learning experience
>> being 
>>
>> that of how to bring our system back into balance
>> again
>>
>> so that the Earth may continue to provide for us.  
>>
>>
>>
>> I do believe, Robert, that you, and others,
>> continually miss 
>>
>> the point that through overpopulation and excessive 
>>
>> consumption, it is we, the Human system, who has
>> brought.
>>
>> about the threat of our own demise.by compromisting
>> the
>>
>> Earth system in such a manner that it may not be
>> able to 
>>
>> fulfill its covenant to be our life support system. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So, what is the ethical choice here?  Would  you,
>> Robert
>>
>> advocate that the Earth try to rebalance the system 
>>
>> by going into a climate change which will maximize
>> its 
>>
>> efforts to revitalize itself over a few centuries,
>> or that it 
>>
>> continue to suffer from the abuses inflicted upon it
>> by
>>
>> an uncaring Human system to the extent that both the
>>
>>
>> Planet and the Human system are unable to recover? 
>>
>>
>>
>> Not that the Human system intended to place its host
>> in
>>
>> such a position, but due to "mistakes," repeated
>> over time 
>>
>> as part of the Human System Learning Cycle, led to 
>>
>> overload of the Earth System such as to put it in a
>> downward
>>
>> slide from which it could not recover if the Earth
>> System did
>>
>> not take steps to assure its own recovery. 
>>
>>
>>
>> What I feel Robert, is that you tend to take things
>> too personally.
>>
>> And life can be cruel in this context.  When we take
>> life too 
>>
>> personally, we live in constant fear of death.  And
>> Western 
>>
>> religion has for the most part placed us in a
>> position of being
>>
>> a "death cult". On the other hand, "The Tibetan Book
>> of the Dead"
>>
>> is a book on how to die gracefully and in comfort.
>> Of course,
>>
>> being much older and therefore much more mature than
>>
>>
>> Western religion, there is more wisdom inherent in
>> Tibetan
>>
>> culture and in Buddhism -- Buddhism also recognizes 
>>
>> Quantum Physics and Western religion for the most
>> part
>>
>> does not have as yet the capacity to do this.   .   
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you understand what I am saying?   
>>
>>
>>
>> As to your comment re: "It could well happen but
>>
>> whether it would remain "self-sustaining" is another
>>
>> matter. It would really depend on how devasting the
>>
>> disaster was, and how damaged the former economic
>>
>> system had become. " 
>>
>>
>>
>> My feeling is that it will depend upon whether or
>> not the 
>>
>> Human System develops the ability to take the next
>> step
>>
>>     
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