[GJM] Systemic Balance (was: Re: #14 Replies to #13 Brad Edmonds On TOP And TWP (robert searle)
marguerite hampton
ecopilgrim at aabol.com
Fri Nov 24 16:57:34 MST 2006
Robert Searle writes in part:
d)I understand your disgust for politics, and
politicians, and just simply going your own way by
following a simple sustainable lifestyle. However, to
suggest that some "natural" and/or man-made disaster
would possibly bring about such a world out of
necessity is somehow immoral. It could well happen but
whether it would remain "self-sustaining" is another
matter. It would really depend on how devasting the
disaster was, and how damaged the former economic
system had become.
Robert, having become familiar with how the body-mind
works and the concept of the "the whole universe in a
single atom" I view the Earth as an intelligent and living
organism of which we, as humans, are a "sub-system".
As such, the "Earth system" and the "Human system"
(both are, in reality, field effects) which are in constant
communication with one another via subtle vibrational
(electromagnetic) frequencies which strive at all times
to maintain "harmonic resonance" which might also be
translated as "balance".
When one or the other of these entities gets out of balance,
the other strives through a natural and implicate order to
bring things back into balance. In the context of the "big
picture" Global Climate Change is such an orchestrated
event put on to benefit both the human family and the
Earth . Such an event opens up the opportunity for us
(the Human system) to increase our intelligence through
a learning experience. The learning experience being
that of how to bring our system back into balance again
so that the Earth may continue to provide for us.
I do believe, Robert, that you, and others, continually miss
the point that through overpopulation and excessive
consumption, it is we, the Human system, who has brought.
about the threat of our own demise.by compromisting the
Earth system in such a manner that it may not be able to
fulfill its covenant to be our life support system.
So, what is the ethical choice here? Would you, Robert
advocate that the Earth try to rebalance the system
by going into a climate change which will maximize its
efforts to revitalize itself over a few centuries, or that it
continue to suffer from the abuses inflicted upon it by
an uncaring Human system to the extent that both the
Planet and the Human system are unable to recover?
Not that the Human system intended to place its host in
such a position, but due to "mistakes," repeated over time
as part of the Human System Learning Cycle, led to
overload of the Earth System such as to put it in a downward
slide from which it could not recover if the Earth System did
not take steps to assure its own recovery.
What I feel Robert, is that you tend to take things too personally.
And life can be cruel in this context. When we take life too
personally, we live in constant fear of death. And Western
religion has for the most part placed us in a position of being
a "death cult". On the other hand, "The Tibetan Book of the Dead"
is a book on how to die gracefully and in comfort. Of course,
being much older and therefore much more mature than
Western religion, there is more wisdom inherent in Tibetan
culture and in Buddhism -- Buddhism also recognizes
Quantum Physics and Western religion for the most part
does not have as yet the capacity to do this. .
Do you understand what I am saying?
As to your comment re: "It could well happen but
whether it would remain "self-sustaining" is another
matter. It would really depend on how devasting the
disaster was, and how damaged the former economic
system had become. "
My feeling is that it will depend upon whether or not the
Human System develops the ability to take the next step
into a higher level of consciousness quickly enough so
as to act in ways that will mitigate the damage and the
suffering. .
We have to mature into the next stage of our development.
(Refer to Woolf's Six Stages of Human Development) It
appears that we are very much in the "me" stage at the
present time.
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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:30:31 +0000 (GMT)
From: robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [GJM] #14 Replies to #13 Brad Edmonds On TOP And TWP
To: Discussion Forum for Global Justice
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Dear MH,
I will reply "in brief":-
a) I am glad you have come across Gandy,and
Freke.However, I have not read their other work you
mentioned.
b) What I meant about Mr. Bunzl is that he is not one
of the tiny handful of top plutocrats with great
power. He may have "privliged" access to some of them
,and their organisations which may well be true.
However, this does not qualify him as being part of
the elite as I would understand it.
c)You are right the GMS does not care for
social,economic,and political justice...unless it
serious disturbs profiteering!!!This is why "bribing"
them to do the "right thing" is the road ahead.
Admitedly, it may not be right morally but we have
little choice, and little time. All this has already
been explained albeit somewhat simplistically in
connection with the positive engagement of banks, and
corporations in the TFE paradigm.
d)I understand your disgust for politics, and
politicians, and just simply going your own way by
following a simple sustainable lifestyle. However, to
suggest that some "natural" and/or man-made disaster
would possibly bring about such a world out of
necessity is somehow immoral. It could well happen but
whether it would remain "self-sustaining" is another
matter. It would really depend on how devasting the
disaster was, and how damaged the former economic
system had become.
R.Searle
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