[GJM] #14 Replies to #13 Brad Edmonds On TOP And TWP

Fri Nov 17 05:36:49 MST 2006

Dear Martin, 

  Greetings for peace,

  I would like to request for suggest for the way out of truth in monotheistic framework. What about suggesting reading from Quran on some of the theological and factual issues that has been reason of war earlier. I have been trying to communicate the need for reading from the holy Quran for resolving the issues.

  Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam

Martin Hattersley <hattersleyjm at interbaun.com> wrote:
  Marguerite -

I think your history and your theology are very much out to lunch, but 
otherwise, I agree with your sentiments.

Martin Hattersley
5929 - 189 St.,
EDMONTON AB CANADA T6M 2J1

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "marguerite hampton" 
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Subject: [GJM] #14 Replies to #13 Brad Edmonds On TOP And TWP

> Wes Burt wrote in part. :
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> For the rest of humanity another policy,
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> rather less than optimum, has been the
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> SOP (standard operating policy) since
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> the King of Judah, Rehoboam, abandoned
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> TOP in B.C. 975 (I Kings 12) and destroyed
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> the Biblical Empire of Israel which had its
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> apogee of wealth and power under Kings
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> David and Solomon. Call this SOP "the
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> wrong policy" (TWP) for convenience.
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> Eco comments:
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> Whoah -- just a minute here. Wes, there
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> has been a revival of "gnosticism" recently
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> and I have been exploring it with those who
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> have been researching the "truth" of the
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> Bible or Tanakh for years.
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>
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> While we are exhorted by the Church to
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> accept the Bible on faith, there are so many
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> contradictions in it it makes it impossible
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> for any sane person who has not been brain-
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> washed to do so.
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>
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> One of these stories is of King David and
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> Solomon. -- Didn't David sleep with Bathsheba
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> another man's wife? And weren't two children
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> conceived from this "unholy" union. And, as the
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> story goes, one of the children was not allowed
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> to live while the other "bastard child" Solomon
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> -- blessed by God -- was given a life of luxury.
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>
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> Isn't the Bible and the story of Jesus supposed
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> to be about "God-based ethics"? Here, we have
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> an example of God committing infanticide.
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>
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> Also, today's historical research, verified by
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> archaeological finds and as carbon dating, etc.,
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> show that many of the events in "the Good Book"
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> simply could not have taken place as described -- 
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> the story of King David and Solomon among them.
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> I have come to the conclusion, Wes, in reading
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> your diatribe and charts that you base many of
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> your findings on the "Pauline doctrine" which was
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> put in place by emperor Constantine at the Council
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> of Nicea, and, therefore are recommending that we
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> continue to follow the doctrine of the Holy Roman
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> Church which was designed as a "social engineering
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> tool" to control the masses for the purpose of
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> skimming money off of the efforts of their labor in
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> order to benefit the church. A church which was a
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> front comprised of the aristocrats and priests in order
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> to accomplish this end and now remains in the name
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> of "Literalist Christianity".
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>
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> It is becoming more and more apparent that the form
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> of Christianity, as practiced by Pagans, prior to the
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> Pauline Doctrine, was a natural form of spirituality
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> which more closely parallels that of Eastern religion.
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> What the Pauline Doctrine did was to create a duality
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> as it denied quantum physics and created an artificial
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> world in which humanity became separated from its
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> source -- the natural environment.
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>
>
> Let's get off of this "kick" which you are promoting in the
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> name of the Simultaneous Policy, which from my point-of-view
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> simply continues to promote the "status quo" in order that
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> the elite may continue to remain in control. I resent the
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> manner in which you continually attempt to maintain control
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> of FixGov and now this list, by the manipulative techniques
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> you use to do so. Indeed, John Bunzl, the founder of The
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> Simultaneous Policy, is by his own admission a member of
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> the elite. And I notice much simularity between SP and
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> what you are promoting here in that almost one one seems
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> to understand either.
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>
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> Perhaps, both Literalist Christianity and the GMS have lost
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> their appeal and the world is now asking for some
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> honest truth so that we may move forward into the future
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> in wholeness and devoid of politics.
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>
>
> So, rather than the "claptrap" you keep trying to promote
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> here, Wes, let's get down to the nitty-gritty of things as they
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> are and figure out:
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>
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> 1. The true state of the world in terms of;
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>
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> a. Number of persons in the world's available laborforce
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> b. Number of person's needed to supply all of the
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> goods and services for the world's population.
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> c. Amount of critical resources available for
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> consumption and use for conversion into products
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> d. What products are mandatory in terms of survival of the greatest
> number of people on earth
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> e. What are our energy resources and how can we best utilize them --
> what products most need to be produced?
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> f. How shall these products be produced? when, where and by what
> means? e.g. technology or human labor?
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> g. What serves the best interests of humanity -- war production or
> production that advances human and planetary well-being?
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> h. What type of financial system serves in the best interests of all
> of humanity? local or international?
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> In the first, monetary control is placed in the hands of many -- under the
> second it remains in the hands of a few.
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>
>
> There are a lot more questions here, but this should do as a start.
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> marguerite
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> :
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