[GJM] #14 Replies to #13 Brad Edmonds On TOP And TWP

[Martin Hattersley]

Marguerite -

I think your history and your theology are very much out to lunch, but 
otherwise, I agree with your sentiments.

Martin Hattersley
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From: "marguerite hampton" <ecopilgrim at aabol.com>
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Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:53 AM
Subject: [GJM] #14 Replies to #13 Brad Edmonds On TOP And TWP


> Wes Burt wrote in part. :
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> For the rest of humanity another policy,
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> rather less than optimum, has been the
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> SOP (standard operating  policy) since
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> the King of Judah, Rehoboam, abandoned
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> TOP in B.C. 975 (I Kings 12) and destroyed
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> the Biblical Empire of Israel which had its
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> apogee of wealth and power under Kings
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> David and Solomon.  Call this SOP "the
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> wrong policy" (TWP) for convenience.
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> Eco comments:
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> Whoah -- just a minute here.  Wes, there
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> has been a revival of "gnosticism" recently
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> and I have been exploring it with those who
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> have been researching the "truth" of the
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> Bible or Tanakh for years.
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> While we are exhorted by the Church to
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> accept the Bible on faith, there are so many
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> contradictions in it it makes it  impossible
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> for any sane person who has not been brain-
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> washed to do so.
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> One of these stories is of King David and
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> Solomon. -- Didn't David sleep with Bathsheba
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> another man's wife?  And weren't two children
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> conceived from this "unholy" union. And, as the
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> story goes, one of the children was not allowed
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> to live while the other "bastard child" Solomon
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> -- blessed by God -- was given a life of luxury.
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> Isn't the Bible and the story of Jesus supposed
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> to be about "God-based ethics"? Here, we have
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> an example of God committing infanticide.
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> Also, today's historical research, verified by
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> archaeological finds and as carbon dating, etc.,
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> show that many of the events in "the Good Book"
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> simply could not have taken place as described -- 
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> the story of King David and Solomon among them.
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> I have come to the conclusion, Wes, in reading
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> your diatribe and charts that you base many of
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> your findings on the "Pauline doctrine" which was
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> put in place by emperor Constantine at the Council
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> of Nicea, and, therefore are recommending that we
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> continue to follow the doctrine of the Holy Roman
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> Church which was designed as a "social engineering
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> tool" to control the masses for the purpose of
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> skimming money off of the efforts of their labor in
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> order to benefit the church.  A church which was a
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> front comprised of the aristocrats and priests in order
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> to accomplish this end and now remains in the name
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> of "Literalist Christianity".
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> It is becoming more and more apparent that the form
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> of Christianity, as practiced by Pagans, prior to the
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> Pauline Doctrine, was a natural form of spirituality
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> which more closely parallels that of Eastern religion.
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> What the Pauline Doctrine did was to create a duality
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> as it denied quantum physics and created an artificial
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> world in which humanity became separated from its
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> source -- the natural environment.
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> Let's get off of this "kick" which you are promoting in the
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> name of the Simultaneous Policy, which from my point-of-view
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> simply continues to promote the "status quo" in order that
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> the elite may continue to remain in control.  I resent the
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> manner in which you continually attempt to maintain control
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> of FixGov and now this list, by the manipulative techniques
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> you use to do so.  Indeed, John Bunzl, the founder of The
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> Simultaneous Policy, is by his own admission a member of
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> the elite.  And I notice much simularity between SP and
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> what you are promoting here in that almost one one seems
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> to understand either.
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> Perhaps, both Literalist Christianity and the GMS have lost
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> their appeal and the world is now asking for some
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> honest truth so that we may move forward into the future
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> in wholeness and devoid of politics.
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> So, rather than the "claptrap" you keep trying to promote
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> here, Wes, let's get down to the nitty-gritty of things as they
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> are and figure out:
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> 1.  The true state of the world in terms of;
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>     a.  Number of persons in the world's available laborforce
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>     b.  Number of person's needed to supply all of the
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> goods and services for the world's population.
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>     c.  Amount of critical resources available for
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> consumption and use for conversion into products
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>     d.  What products are mandatory in terms of survival of the greatest
> number of people on earth
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>     e.  What are our energy resources and how can we best utilize them --
> what products most need to be produced?
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>     f.  How shall these products be produced? when, where and by what
> means? e.g. technology or human labor?
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>     g.  What serves the best interests of humanity -- war production or
> production that advances human and planetary well-being?
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>     h.  What type of financial system serves in the best interests of all
> of humanity? local or international?
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> In the first, monetary control is placed in the hands of many -- under the
> second it remains in the hands of a few.
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> There are a lot more questions here, but this should do as a start.
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> marguerite
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