[GJM] #14 Replies to #13 Brad Edmonds On TOP And TWP

[robert searle]

Dear MH,

       You should read the book The Jesus Mysteries by
Gandy, and Freke which reveals that the New Testaments
stories are directly taken from  certain legends about
Dionysius, and Osiris. In other words, Jesus =
Dionysius/Osiris. It is quite incredible but it is
backed up with a large amount of scholarly evidence.

As for John Bunzl (whom I actually met) I feel you are
being somewhat unfair. He is a businessman but I am
sure he is not in the same ranks of the Richard
Bransons, and George Soross of the world. I feel you
are doing him something of an injustice by claiming
that he is part of an elite. 

Moreover, I do think your comments are as usual
somewhat naive, and unrealistic. You cannot fight the
banks,or the corporations (unless you had massive
public support which is unlikely in extremis as most
of us are too apathetic, complacent, and useles when
it comes to such vital matters)as they have to be
somehow reformed in some other way...

 It does not matter whether a plutocracies exist, or
not. What matters is whether we can eradicate the
injustices of the world. The elite can remain the
elite if they are willing to go along with this. In
TFE this is possible, and more importantly there may
well be little time to change things for the good
unless we join forces in reforming the banks, and
corporations in such a way that they would themselves
benefit. More importantly, global justice, and
sustainability would be promoted at the sametime. We
need to get off our moral hobby horse, and think more
REALISTICALLY,AND YET, DIFFERENTLY..



Robert Searle





--- marguerite hampton <ecopilgrim at aabol.com> wrote:

> Wes Burt wrote in part. : 
> 
> 
> 
> For the rest of humanity another policy,
> 
> rather less than optimum, has been the
> 
> SOP (standard operating  policy) since
> 
> the King of Judah, Rehoboam, abandoned
> 
> TOP in B.C. 975 (I Kings 12) and destroyed
> 
> the Biblical Empire of Israel which had its
> 
> apogee of wealth and power under Kings
> 
> David and Solomon.  Call this SOP "the
> 
> wrong policy" (TWP) for convenience. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Eco comments: 
> 
> 
> 
> Whoah -- just a minute here.  Wes, there 
> 
> has been a revival of "gnosticism" recently
> 
> and I have been exploring it with those who
> 
> have been researching the "truth" of the 
> 
> Bible or Tanakh for years.  
> 
> 
> 
> While we are exhorted by the Church to 
> 
> accept the Bible on faith, there are so many
> 
> contradictions in it it makes it  impossible 
> 
> for any sane person who has not been brain-
> 
> washed to do so.  
> 
> 
> 
> One of these stories is of King David and 
> 
> Solomon. -- Didn't David sleep with Bathsheba
> 
> another man's wife?  And weren't two children
> 
> conceived from this "unholy" union. And, as the 
> 
> story goes, one of the children was not allowed 
> 
> to live while the other "bastard child" Solomon
> 
>  -- blessed by God -- was given a life of luxury.  
> 
> 
> 
> Isn't the Bible and the story of Jesus supposed
> 
> to be about "God-based ethics"? Here, we have
> 
> an example of God committing infanticide. 
> 
> 
> 
> Also, today's historical research, verified by 
> 
> archaeological finds and as carbon dating, etc., 
> 
> show that many of the events in "the Good Book" 
> 
> simply could not have taken place as described -- 
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> the story of King David and Solomon among them. 
> 
> 
> 
> I have come to the conclusion, Wes, in reading 
> 
> your diatribe and charts that you base many of
> 
> your findings on the "Pauline doctrine" which was
> 
> put in place by emperor Constantine at the Council
> 
> of Nicea, and, therefore are recommending that we
> 
> continue to follow the doctrine of the Holy Roman 
> 
> Church which was designed as a "social engineering
> 
> tool" to control the masses for the purpose of 
> 
> skimming money off of the efforts of their labor in
> 
> order to benefit the church.  A church which was a
> 
> front comprised of the aristocrats and priests in
> order
> 
> to accomplish this end and now remains in the name 
> 
> of "Literalist Christianity".   
> 
> 
> 
> It is becoming more and more apparent that the form 
> 
> of Christianity, as practiced by Pagans, prior to
> the 
> 
> Pauline Doctrine, was a natural form of spirituality
> 
> 
> which more closely parallels that of Eastern
> religion. 
> 
> What the Pauline Doctrine did was to create a
> duality 
> 
> as it denied quantum physics and created an
> artificial 
> 
> world in which humanity became separated from its 
> 
> source -- the natural environment. 
> 
> 
> 
> Let's get off of this "kick" which you are promoting
> in the 
> 
> name of the Simultaneous Policy, which from my
> point-of-view 
> 
> simply continues to promote the "status quo" in
> order that 
> 
> the elite may continue to remain in control.  I
> resent the 
> 
> manner in which you continually attempt to maintain
> control 
> 
> of FixGov and now this list, by the manipulative
> techniques 
> 
> you use to do so.  Indeed, John Bunzl, the founder
> of The 
> 
> Simultaneous Policy, is by his own admission a
> member of 
> 
> the elite.  And I notice much simularity between SP
> and 
> 
> what you are promoting here in that almost one one
> seems 
> 
> to understand either.
> 
> 
> 
> Perhaps, both Literalist Christianity and the GMS
> have lost 
> 
> their appeal and the world is now asking for some 
> 
> honest truth so that we may move forward into the
> future
> 
> in wholeness and devoid of politics.  
> 
> 
> 
> So, rather than the "claptrap" you keep trying to
> promote 
> 
> here, Wes, let's get down to the nitty-gritty of
> things as they 
> 
> are and figure out:
> 
> 
> 
> 1.  The true state of the world in terms of;
> 
> 
> 
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