[GJM] #14 Replies to #13 Brad Edmonds On TOP And TWP

marguerite hampton ecopilgrim at aabol.com
Thu Nov 16 11:53:50 MST 2006


Wes Burt wrote in part. : 



For the rest of humanity another policy,

rather less than optimum, has been the

SOP (standard operating  policy) since

the King of Judah, Rehoboam, abandoned

TOP in B.C. 975 (I Kings 12) and destroyed

the Biblical Empire of Israel which had its

apogee of wealth and power under Kings

David and Solomon.  Call this SOP "the

wrong policy" (TWP) for convenience. 





Eco comments: 



Whoah -- just a minute here.  Wes, there 

has been a revival of "gnosticism" recently

and I have been exploring it with those who

have been researching the "truth" of the 

Bible or Tanakh for years.  



While we are exhorted by the Church to 

accept the Bible on faith, there are so many

contradictions in it it makes it  impossible 

for any sane person who has not been brain-

washed to do so.  



One of these stories is of King David and 

Solomon. -- Didn't David sleep with Bathsheba

another man's wife?  And weren't two children

conceived from this "unholy" union. And, as the 

story goes, one of the children was not allowed 

to live while the other "bastard child" Solomon

 -- blessed by God -- was given a life of luxury.  



Isn't the Bible and the story of Jesus supposed

to be about "God-based ethics"? Here, we have

an example of God committing infanticide. 



Also, today's historical research, verified by 

archaeological finds and as carbon dating, etc., 

show that many of the events in "the Good Book" 

simply could not have taken place as described -- 

the story of King David and Solomon among them. 



I have come to the conclusion, Wes, in reading 

your diatribe and charts that you base many of

your findings on the "Pauline doctrine" which was

put in place by emperor Constantine at the Council

of Nicea, and, therefore are recommending that we

continue to follow the doctrine of the Holy Roman 

Church which was designed as a "social engineering

tool" to control the masses for the purpose of 

skimming money off of the efforts of their labor in

order to benefit the church.  A church which was a

front comprised of the aristocrats and priests in order

to accomplish this end and now remains in the name 

of "Literalist Christianity".   



It is becoming more and more apparent that the form 

of Christianity, as practiced by Pagans, prior to the 

Pauline Doctrine, was a natural form of spirituality 

which more closely parallels that of Eastern religion. 

What the Pauline Doctrine did was to create a duality 

as it denied quantum physics and created an artificial 

world in which humanity became separated from its 

source -- the natural environment. 



Let's get off of this "kick" which you are promoting in the 

name of the Simultaneous Policy, which from my point-of-view 

simply continues to promote the "status quo" in order that 

the elite may continue to remain in control.  I resent the 

manner in which you continually attempt to maintain control 

of FixGov and now this list, by the manipulative techniques 

you use to do so.  Indeed, John Bunzl, the founder of The 

Simultaneous Policy, is by his own admission a member of 

the elite.  And I notice much simularity between SP and 

what you are promoting here in that almost one one seems 

to understand either.



Perhaps, both Literalist Christianity and the GMS have lost 

their appeal and the world is now asking for some 

honest truth so that we may move forward into the future

in wholeness and devoid of politics.  



So, rather than the "claptrap" you keep trying to promote 

here, Wes, let's get down to the nitty-gritty of things as they 

are and figure out:



1.  The true state of the world in terms of;



     a.  Number of persons in the world's available laborforce

     b.  Number of person's needed to supply all of the

goods and services for the world's population.

     c.  Amount of critical resources available for 

consumption and use for conversion into products

     d.  What products are mandatory in terms of survival of the greatest
number of people on earth

     e.  What are our energy resources and how can we best utilize them --
what products most need to be produced? 

     f.  How shall these products be produced? when, where and by what
means? e.g. technology or human labor? 

     g.  What serves the best interests of humanity -- war production or
production that advances human and planetary well-being?  

     h.  What type of financial system serves in the best interests of all
of humanity? local or international? 

In the first, monetary control is placed in the hands of many -- under the
second it remains in the hands of a few.



There are a lot more questions here, but this should do as a start. 



marguerite 





     

    



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