[GJM] [Intertax] Taxation, and So-Called "Re-Distribution" is Out-Dated Trash Thinking.

[robert searle]

--- Ole Lefmann <olefmann at tinyonline.co.uk> wrote:

> Robert,
> 
>  
> 
> Please be aware that I have not followed the
> discussion from the beginning.
> 
> See below.
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>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: robert searle [mailto:dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk] 
> Sent: 11 November 2006 11:50
> To: olefmann at tinyonline.co.uk
> Subject: RE: [Intertax] Taxation,and So-Called
> "Re-Distribution" is
> Out-Dated Trash Thinking.
> 
>  
> 
> Dear Ole Lefmann,
> 
>  
> 
>            I agree entirely with what you have said
> 
> but what you are suggesting is essentially
> unrealistic
> 
> for the present time. I will try, and makes this
> 
> clear.
> 
> 8 days before the fall of the wall between East- and
> West- Germany it seemed
> unrealistic.


  RS. Yes, you are right but you are talking about
wholesale change to something which is limited (LVT),
and more importantly requires a total change in
peoples attitude, and character for something like
that to succeed.
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>  
> 
> 1) TFE is transitional system from the competative
> 
> greed of capitalism to something much fairer.
> 
> Do you think it will abolish the great inequity of
> MONOPOLY CAPITALISM that
> has developed progressively in Europe during 700
> years and is disseminating
> over the globe.


RS. Probably not but at least monopoly capitalism as
you put it would be ameanable to reform with powerful
financial inducements notably in connection with
sustainability. 
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>  
> 
> 2) However, TFE recognizes the simple truth that
> banks
> 
> and corporations are too powerful to change.
> 
> Power in democracies is a question of making the
> majority of people
> understand that they will benefit from  the change.
> 
> Christianity spread around the world in relatively
> few centuries.
> 
> Communism spread around the world even quicker; it
> took power several
> places; in Cuba and few other Latin American nations
> successfully.


RS. Remember that banks and coporations are NOT
political idealogies, or systems. They are concerned
with making as much money as possible. It is
rediculous to equate them with democracies.> 
> Electronic messages should speed up the time it will
> take.
> 
>  
> 
> 3) As such it now believes in the need for the
> 
> positive engagement, and dialogue with banks, and
> 
> corporations. 
> 
> If you want to abolish the great inequity - don’t
> delay the progress by
> cooperation with the suppressors. It looks
> suspicious and weakens the
> supporters’ engagement.


RS. This is vitually impossible to do as they are too
powerful. Moreover, most right thinking people would
agree to me. More importantly, it would take too long
to do, and humanity, and the planet does not have
enough time.
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>  
> 
> 4) This would increase the chances of the
> introduction
> 
> of an interest, and tax free economy as they would
> be
> 
> more willing to help fund transfinancial NGOs, and
> 
> influence politicians, and businessmen.
> 
> Do you mean interest free and tax free economy?
> 
> Does NGOs mean Non Governmental Organisations?


RS. Yes, tax, and interest free...and yes, NGOs means
Non-Governmental Organisations of which there are
several types not discussed.
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>  
> 
> All they do is to secure their Monopolistic position
> and their supporters’
> engagement.



RS. If it means the survival of the planet, and
humanity  we have little choice in the matter.
Ideally, it should not been done this way but time is
running out..........
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>  
> 
> 5) It must be remembered here that banks could have
> 
> the interest on their loans created by new unearned
> 
> money issued by independent public authorities
> 
> licensed to do so. 
> 
> Sounds interesting – sounds like Dr. J W Smith in
> “Money – A Mirror Image of
> the Economy”


RS. TFE offers a far more powerful alternative to the
above reference which is more likely to succeed.
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>  
> 
> 6) To try, and bring about interest monetary reform
> by
> 
> opposing the banks, and corporations is largely a
> 
> waste of time. 
> 
> An interest monetary reform is not the goal, but a
> side effect that will
> speed up the reform.
> 
>  
> 
> 7) Though the above are radical most people would be
> 
> willing to support the introduction of TFE as it
> would
> 
> be socially, economically, and politically very
> 
> popular indeed.
> 
> It sounds like it is just before it is implemented.


RS. Maybe so for many hopefully!
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>  
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> 8) Though banks would still make super-normal
> profits
> 
> governments would still be able to have new unearned
> 
> money created for them by an independent public
> 
> authority.
> 
> How to control inflation?

RS. This is all explained in the work in progress
paper on TFE which is to be updated, and the like.> 
>  
> 
> 10)It is vital that humanity switches to an
> interest,
> 
> and tax free economy in the shortest possible space
> of
> 
> time.
> 
> You mean interest free and tax free economy? Will
> you collect the rent of
> monopolies / privileges, or how will you raise
> public revenues?


RS. New unearned money is created to replace taxation,
and inflation is controlled electronically via bank
computers.> 
>  
> 
> 11) Not only would banks, and corporations be more
> 
> financially  empowered  in TFE but more importantly
> 
> NGOs concerned with social, economic, and political
> 
> reform would be financed as never before. They would
> 
> be able to challenge vested interests if there is an
> 
> ethical need. This is the concept of the Equal
> Playing
> 
> Field (EPF). 
> 
> How will TFE finance anybody?
> 
> NGO = Non Governmental Organisations?


RS. Already explained.
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>  
> 
> 12) Such challenges though would diminish to a
> certain
> 
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