[GJM] [Intertax] Taxation, and So-Called "Re-Distribution" is Out-Dated Trash Thinking.

[robert searle]

  Dear Carol,

           Ofcourse, land, and labour (REAL RESOURCES)
are very important indeed. Without them money would be
utterly worthless. But, there has been too much
emphasis on the importance of limited resources rather
than mainstream capital which actually is the POWER
that CONTROLS their use, or misuse.

Incidently, TFE is not the panacea of all social,
economic, and political ills. Yet, it goes one hell of
a way to solving many of them via a new and
revolutionary understanding of money. With greater
intelligence, and creativity much can be achieved by
using less in novel ways. This is essential for our
survival as a race.


Going back to land as I am sure you realize as the
population grows, and grows this vital resource would
diminish. What is the answer? Here, is the
following.....

i)The development of new sustainable housing that
makes the most use of space.Ofcourse, ideas such as
this already exist in the hands of enlightened
architects.

ii)The creation of artificial islands using in part
resources from the sea bed. Something like this has
been happening in Dubai where there is to be a special
community for the wealthy.

iii) The creation of floating islands, or "ships" on
which sustainable communities could exist on. I
believe something like this has been, or is being
constructed. Unfortunately, as far as I understand it
this "project" is targeted at wealthy customers.

iv) Sustainable underwater cities, towns, and villages
could be created.

v) Colonization of space, and terraforming of planets
with sustainable communities.


As you can imagine much of the above requires massive
capital injections. With TFE the whole process is
speeded up. Yet, some of the above projects via the
present financial system would probable be unable to
fund such schemes via venture capitalism. The risks
involved would be enormous, and any compensation would
be likewise. With TFE the process is greatly eased
with the aid of commercial grants, subsidies, and
interest free loans. As soon as such enterprises
become self-financing, and show profit they  should
only be eligible for borrowing to bring about further
expansion.




I would also suggest you go, and see the Venus Project
founded by Jacque Fresco. He has some fascinating
models, and ideas for the future notably drawn from
technocracy, and transhumanism

  www.thevenusproject.com


Regards,

Robert Searle




v) --- Carol Wilcox <carol.wilcox at labourland.org>
wrote:

> Robert, I am amazed that someone who asks us to
> believe that he has the
> solution to all the world's ills is totally
> oblivious of the importance of
> land. In its simplest conception, the economy
> consists only of land and
> labour.
> 
> Carol
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "robert searle" <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "Carol Wilcox" <carol.wilcox at labourland.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Intertax] Taxation,and So-Called
> "Re-Distribution" is
> Out-Dated Trash Thinking.
> 
> 
> >
> >      TRANSFINANCIAL ECONOMICS GOES BEYOND
> TAXATION,
> > AND RE-DISTRIBUTION, AND CAN LEAD TO GLOBAL
> JUSTICE.
> >
> >
> > Dear Carol Wilcox
> >
> >         I fail to see why land has to be
> "...essential
> > for social justice...." What is far more important
> is
> > an advanced system of finance which
> > can do the following.
> >
> > i) fully finance the public sector without raising
> > taxes.
> >
> > ii) fully, or partly finance NGOs using new
> unearned
> > money to ensure that democracy flourishes, and
> becomes
> > more pervasive as never before. Moreover, this can
> > lead to poverty alleviation in a number of ways
> alot
> > quicker, and efficiently  than via redistribution
> of
> > existing financial wealth. This ofcourse would
> come
> > about through the agency of NGOs, and governments.
> The
> > only limits are ofcourse natural ones which are
> > effective planning, and resources (eg. land!!!!)
> >
> > iii) fully, or partly finance the productive
> private
> > sector via commercial grants, and interest free
> loans
> > notably in the area of simple, and complex forms
> of
> > sustainable technologies. It is NOW becoming more
> of a
> > race against time to save the planet, and a new,
> and
> > super-powerful financial system is desparetely
> need to
> > do the job...
> >
> > iv) to influence as never before the commercial
> > interests, and strategies of the transnational
> > corporations to become environmentally friendly,
> and
> > to promote social, and economic justice. This can
> be
> > undertaken via  massive grants, and interest free
> > loans which would steer them in the right
> direction.
> > It  would be to their own advantage as their
> > shareholders would EXPECT them to reform with
> these
> > very powerful business incentives.
> >
> > This would be largely impossible to implement in
> the
> > present competative capitalist system. As far as I
> > understand it TNCs do already receive grants but
> in
> > TFE there can be far greater capital investment if
> it
> > leads to a more just global system...
> >
> >
> > With TFE it would be possible to do any of the
> > following at record speed:-
> >
> > i) TNCs where, and whenever necessary could have
> their
> > goods, and services subsidized if they cannot make
> > high enough profits. This could come via special
> > business NGOs which would be concerned with 
> "ethical"
> > capitalism..
> >
> > ii) Those gargantuan TNCs concerned ofcourse with
> > fossils fuels, and the arms industry could be
> taken
> > over by irresistable  friendly (or hostile)
> takeover
> > bids. They could then be converted into a
> something
> > which is more in keeping with responsible
> capitalism
> > that takes the environment, and other ethical
> factors
> > into serious (and indeed "profitable")
> consideration.
> > Again, this could be undertaken by special
> business
> > NGOs along with governments if necessary.
> >
> > iii) Depending on how they adapt to the new
> financial
> > order TNCs could become less of a target for NGOs
> to
> > do with fairer wealth distribution. However, the
> > latter would become more powerful, and their
> influence
> > on the public opinion would become much stronger
> > because of their greater funding via new unearned
> > money. This also ofcourse implies that TNCs can be
> > treated on an equal playing field with the more
> > powerful breed of NGO.
> >
> > All this is revolutionary, and mind-boggling stuff
> as
> > you can imagine, and well-worth researching, and
> > developing properly if we are serious about
> > social,economic, and political change...otherwise
> we
> > are on the road to nowhere.
> >
> > Land Valuation Tax is just another difficult, and
> slow
> > way of achieving social,economic, and political
> > reform. TFE goes way beyond such old world
> thinking to
> > something more advanced.
> >
> >
> >
> >        THE POPULARITY OF TRANSFINANCIAL ECONOMICS,
> OR
> > NON-TAXATION MONETARY REFORM.
> >
> >
> > It must be remembered that unlike other monetary,
> and
> > economic reforms TFE stands the best chance of
> success
> > in the present competative capitalist system. It
> also
> > can allow for banks to continue creating
> super-normal
> > profits because new unearned money would be
> created by
> > an independent public authority depending on how
> much
> > business they can generate. In other words, we
> would
> > have cheaper or free serviceand no interest on
> loans.
> > TNCs would also benefit hugely, and most of them
> would
> > be willing to fund campaigns for TFE NGOs to make
> sure
> > that tax, and interest free economies can become a
> > certain reality at record speed.
> >
> > At the present time, I am coming to the conclusion
> > that interest free monetary reform is largely
> going
> > nowhere. Though it may have the high moral ground
> they
> > are unlikely to succeed . However, if you offer
> > something "positive" to banks, and TNCs in which
> they
> > could create greater profits BUT at the same time
> have
> > the right commercial incentives to become largely
> > "ethical", and responsible then you are backing a
> > WINNER. This could then lead onto financial
> > "revolution" in which both the rich, and more
> > importantly the poor would become winners too.
> >
> > I know some left-wing NGOs would find the above
> > distasteful as they are still trapped in the
> mind-set
> > of redistribution, and the politics of envy. We
> need
> > to grow up, and understand that there is a more
> > advanced way of doing things. Ironically, TFE
> COULD
> 
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