[GJM] Global Climate Change and the culture of prayersforminimsing the use of Machines

Thomas Greco -- CIRC2 circ2 at mindspring.com
Fri Nov 3 20:56:47 MST 2006


Thanks, Martin. Good answer.

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From: "Martin Hattersley" <hattersleyjm at interbaun.com>
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [GJM] Global Climate Change and the culture of
prayersforminimsing the use of Machines


> Obviously, it means staying in a continual state of prayer about
everything
> that crosses our path. It derives from a conviction that all that occurs
in
> our world, whether it seems good or bad, is in some way an outworking of
the
> Divine will. It contrasts with the Manichean view of the universe, where
God
> is continually at war with Satanic powers.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas Greco -- CIRC2" <circ2 at mindspring.com>
> To: <mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com>; "Discussion Forum for Global Justice"
> <discussion at globaljusticemovement.net>
> Cc: <editor at amarujala.com>; "David" <davidsoori at fsmail.net>; "mohammad
> yousaf" <y_mohdsweden at hotmail.com>; <editor at nawaiwaqt.com.pk>; "Ghulam
> Muhammed" <ghulammuhammed3 at gmail.com>; <editor at pakistanlink.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [GJM] Global Climate Change and the culture of
> prayersforminimsing the use of Machines
>
>
> 5 time may not be enough. St. Paul says one must "pray without ceasing."
> What does that mean?
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
>   To: Discussion Forum for Global Justice
>   Cc: editor at amarujala.com ; David ; mohammad yousaf ;
> editor at nawaiwaqt.com.pk ; Ghulam Muhammed ; editor at pakistanlink.com
>   Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 05:39 AM
>   Subject: Re: [GJM] Global Climate Change and the culture of prayers
> forminimsing the use of Machines
>
>
>   Global Climate Change and the culture of prayers for minimising the use
of
> Machines
>
>   Dear Robert and Marguerite,,
>
>   I would like to draw your attention again to the commands for prayer in
> the holy texts..
>
>   We already have empirical evidence for the impact of faith based
practices
> on stress . Albert Pepitone has established that..There are innumerable
> texts and practitioners of prayer and meditation..I would like to suggest
> globalising the communication for adotion of prayer. Commands for prayer 5
> times a day needs to be followed by all..We can very envisage the
ecological
> benifits..To wit..Muslims are not the patron of bars and dancing halls and
> all that is exhibitionists..Pious men and women across the religions are
> following and advocating austeristy...Environmentalists and all are
calling
> for transformation of consumption and production pattern..I have argued
for
> global adoption of the commands of Allah for prayer 5 times a day.. There
> are commands for prayer in Bible,Torah, Guru Granth and all the texts..Men
> and women reverred across the cultures are those who have been practioners
> of prayer and fearless..
>
>   With warm regards
>
>   Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
>
>
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>   marguerite hampton <ecopilgrim at aabol.com> wrote:
>     Message: 2
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>     Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:27:59 +0000 (GMT)
>
>     From: robert searle
>
>     Subject: Re: [GJM] Global Climate Change and the Machine
>
>     To: Discussion Forum for Global Justice
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>     Dear Marguerite,
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>
>
>     I think you are naive in thinking that
>
>     somekind of world catastrophe would seriously change
>
>     society into a more cooperative form of capitalism. As
>
>     soon as the economy bucks up again there will always
>
>     be those who want to go back to competative wheeling,
>
>     and dealing.This perverse aspect of human character is
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>     not only found in business but also in education,
>
>     sport, the arts, et cetera. It is not going to
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>     mysteriously die even if we lived in small eco-type
>
>     communities...
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>     R.Searle
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>     Eco (marguerite) replies:
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>
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>     My dear man, if I am naive then surely your accusations
>
>     are those of the pot calling the kettle "black".
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>
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>     Don't you understand to what depths global climate change
>
>     will effect the world economy? Predictions are that the
>
>     world will never recover economically from this type of event.
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>     The global financial system cannot help but be shattered
>
>     into a million pieces as billions of people worldwide are
>
>     forced to migrate to different areas to escape both the
>
>     heat and cold as well as ocean rise as glacier melt takes
>
>     place on an international level. There will be nothing left
>
>     of our present social order.
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>
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>     The only saving grace will be the ability to start "local
>
>     economies" using the knowledge of people like Thomas H.
>
>     Greco, Jr. author of MONEY - Understanding and Creating
>
>     Alternatives to Legal Tender.
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>
>
>     IMHO, you are one of the most addicted of people I have
>
>     encountered to our present dissociated and aberrant
>
>     lifestyle I have come into contact with.
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>
>
>     In his book, MONEY, Greco writes: Community currencies
>
>     empower people by shifting some degree of economic control
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>     from remote external agencies to people within the community.
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>     Once the great migration has begun in earnest (to a great
>
>     degree we are witnessing its beginning with the current 100 den
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>     million people now in forced migration worldwide) as billions
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>     flee regions that will become uninhabitable to find regions that
>
>     will become habitable as the Arctic and Ant-artic ice melts give
>
>     way to reveal rich life-giving tundra, the current banking system
>
>     will not survive. As they are forced from their homes and places
>
>     of business, they will have no "equity from which to draw from
>
>     or borrow against to enable the purchase new homes and
>
>     businesses as these interests will become undesirable and
>
>     thus unsaleable. Humanity is going to be forced back to
>
>     square one and given another chance to "get it right this
>
>     time".
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>
>
>     As we are facing this challenge, science is also revealing to us
>
>     that the human brain, and consequently its "mind-field" is evolving
>
>     to new levels of multi-dimensional (holographic) consciousness.
>
>     Consequently, we will, as the human family, become more
>
>     "response-enabled" and thus expand our "mind-field" to embrace
>
>     new levels of consciousness which without this biological growth
>
>     and evolution of the human brain was an impossibility. As biologist
>
>     Bruce Lipton reveals, we are currently phasing out of our reptilian
>
>     brain and evolving into more awareness through use of our
>
>     forebrain. Refer to The Biology of Transcendence" by John
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>     Chilton Pearce for more comprehensive understanding of this
>
>     event and the importance of the uniting of the two halves of our
>
>     brain with the heart-brain which allows for the natural emergence
>
>     of our "Christ-consciousness".
>
>
>
>     Please, Robert, go back to your studies -- you talk about multi-
>
>     dimensional science, yet every word out of your mouth proves
>
>     how very little you understand in this regard. Understanding the
>
>     new field of "neurocardiology" is most important in this regard.
>
>     Do yourself a favor and become more informed, please.
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>     marguerite
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