[GJM] [Intertax] What Would YOU Really Do? 2.

robert searle dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Nov 3 12:49:02 MST 2006


--- Jersey Cycle Tours <jerseycycletours at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear All, re Robert Searle and "instinct"
> 
> A "normal instinct" only if you have learnt to hoard
> and not to share.
> 
> Only if you have learnt that "it is crap at the
> bottom of the pile, but when
> I get to the top myself then it is my turn" - (the
> public school ethos in
> olden times)
> 
> only if you never had (good quality) circle time at
> (primary) school and
> learnt to express your feelings and pay attention to
> the feelings and
> experiences of others
> 
> only if you either do not understand that those
> profits depend on social
> expenditure which you are removing funding from, or
> choose to ignore this
> fact in your own selfish interest. (selfish in a
> quasi-technical sense, not
> a loaded sense of selfish=bad)
> 
> You may say that all the above is learnt, and not
> instinct. I am not so
> sure. I think we all know deep down, and would
> discover under "free"
> conditions, that our happiness and satisfaction
> depends on others, more
> specifically our own group or groups. And I believe
> this awareness to be
> instinctual. How else do you explain the strength of
> the notion of
> "fairness" in children.
> 
> Prof. Winston's TV series about the way human minds
> work I think it was,
> showed a couple of fascinating experiments, that
> demonstrated that young
> children will make sacrifices rather than submit to
> what is "unfair"
> 
> Of course, think about a small group. If someone
> becomes known as a cheat,
> then no-one trusts them. if no-one trusts them,
> no-one is willing to work
> with them, lend them anything, etc. So, they lose.
> That is why face-to-face
> community, or something not too far bigger than it,
> is so important. You are
> far more likely to try and diddle TESCO than your
> friendly, open
> what-seems-to-be-all-night local convenience store
> 
> So, it may be the selfishness which is learnt and
> not the instinct to keep
> in balance the needs of the group and your own
> individual needs
> 
> jerseygreen
> 
> (And no, the children are not just throwing back the
> fairness training of
> adults, which in any case is usually based on "who
> had it first?" or "is
> that yours - no? - well then give it back" - neither
> of which are
> embodiments of "fairness")
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "robert searle" <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: <intertax at listen.attac.de>
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:15 PM
> Subject: [Intertax] What Would really YOU do?
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> >         If you were a super-rich businessman, or
> > woman would you not want to keep as much of your
> > profits from taxman as possible? Is this not a
> normal
> > instinct?
> >
> > I do feel Intertax is very one-sided.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Robert Searle
> >
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