[GJM] Sustainibility Index, Ecological Safety, Transfinancial Economics and Monotheistic Framework and

Thu Jul 27 07:04:29 MDT 2006

Dear Robert,

  I would like to seek your attention for transformation of ecologically hostile megacities..New Delhi itslef is turning into a mega city..hi-tech ecologically sustainable cities with green energy is quite far fetched..There are many who believe ..Frank Feather is one who wrote on the basis of projections of Toffler..

  I still feel that we may not have full scale replacement of  petro-modern transportation and communication systems..

  Thats why I am calling for uniform application of Sustainability Index for consumption and production patterns..There are real climate change evidences..Please consider my advocacy for global adoption of prayer 5 times a day in the light of such evidence.. we can not seek ..

  It is true all technoethusiasts are not immoral..Bill Joy however called for regulation of run away technologies ...

  Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam

robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
  Dear Mukhtar,

I do not see why alternative forms of clean,
cheap, and renewable energy cannot be created in
high-tech eco-vilages after the petroleum age. 

Moreover, I cannot see why technoenthusiasm should 
lead to immorality. It can also lead to morality
depending on the character of the people..

Regards,

R.Searle.

--- Muhammad Mukhtar Alam 
wrote:

> Dear Robert, 
> 
> Please do an energy audit for this so called
> eco-villages. Do they last the
> petromodernity?...what happens to them after we have
> exausted petroleum ?..
> 
> I look for a future with renewable resource based
> livelihoods...
> 
> I am quite wary of technoethusiasts..who just wish
> to continue exhibitionist consumption with dancing
> bars, resorts, dens of gambling ,adultery ,usury and
> homosexuality..
> 
> 
> Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
> 
> earle wrote:
> Dear Muktar,
> 
> In the article I am referring to what might be
> termed HI-TECH eco-villages. These could involve
> bartar, or not. I would also suggest like the rest
> of
> the people here to visit the following website.
> 
> www.thevenusproject.com
> 
> 
> It contains images of futuristic designs, and
> eco-friendly communites. It is absolutely
> fascinating.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> R.Searle
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Muhammad Mukhtar Alam 
> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Robert,
> > 
> > Greetings for peace,
> > 
> > I was reading you proposals again and I have
> > following objections:
> > 
> > Ecovillages do not funds..There are many villages
> > in India where barter is still practiced and it
> had
> > been there for eons..People needed to change
> > agricultural produce and forest produce for the
> > essentials such as salt and others..All the
> villages
> > that are targets for nonrenewable resource based
> > consumption are and were ecologically sustainable
> > village all over the world..I do not understand
> > therefore the need of meney for creation of
> > eco-villages..However, that is relevant for the
> > non-renewbale resource based behemoths with
> > skyscrappers that need to be transformed in
> > ecologically sustainable spaces..I will appreciate
> > if you could see the attached paper for the same
> as
> > I have used my concept Sustainability Index for
> > examining the history of consumption and
> production
> > pattern across the world and then called for
> global
> > adoption of culture of prayer for getting in teh
> > required transformation..We need this to be done
> > quickly. I have suggested this to many and there
> > are
> > agreements for the same as we need to prepare
> > ourselves from the man made ecological and nuclear
> > disasters..
> > 
> > Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
> > 
> > robert searle wrote:
> > Note: forwarded message attached.
> > 
> > 
> > Dear All,
> > 
> > I hope this message has been transmitted.
> > 
> > R.Searle
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>
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> 21
> > Jul 2006 16:56:11 -0400
> > To: meetingplace at imagicomm.com
> > From: Miles Michael 
> > Subject: [Easier-Fundraising] Transfinancial
> > Economics
> > 
> > As they say, this is like deja vu all over again.
> > Mr. Searle, except for the opening paragraphs,
> > posted exactly the same piece in a previous forum.
> > 
> > I wish he had condensed it to include (and perhaps
> > amplify) those sections which applied directly to
> > this forum. Oh well!
> > 
> > At 8:29 AM +0100 7/21/06, robert searle wrote:
> > 
> > >Dear All,
> > >
> > >I believe in the next two to three decades or so
> > that NGOs would be partly, or largely funded with
> > new unearned money. This would be created
> > responsibly without the need for fundraising.
> > Inflation would be controlled by advanced computer
> > technology. This I know sounds completely new, and
> > alien to all of you.
> > 
> > As you will see, while I think there may be some
> > promise in the idea of "printing" money to satisfy
> > "worthy" needs, it is often said that the devil is
> > in the details--and I have some serious questions
> > about the details. Based on his own presentation,
> it
> > appears that he has serious questions as well
> about
> > as yet un-resolved details, the resolution of
> which
> > may render the whole paradigm unworkable.
> > 
> > >This is a summary of a research, and development
> > project concerned with Transfinancial Economics,or
> > more simply TFE. Essentially, it revolves around
> the
> > concept that new unearned money could be created
> > responsibly where there is a genuine need.
> > 
> > There is no question about there being many
> genuine
> > needs. The unanswered question is who makes the
> > decision about what is and is not a genuine need.
> > Looking at the governmental budgets now, it is
> clear
> > that the decision making process if flawed --
> > although we may disagree on what is genuine and
> what
> > is not.
> > 
> > >What follows is a deliberately simple, and
> > non-technical account of how this could be
> achieved
> > without hyper-inflation. So-called "facts and
> > figures" are not included here but ones own
> > independant intelligence should be able to see the
> > massive social,economic, and political
> implications
> > of TFE.. which incidently is also known as
> > Non-Taxation in this context, or Non-Taxation
> > Monetary Reform.
> > 
> > Perhaps we need to distinguish between taxes and
> > fees for service. I'm of the general opinion that
> > people should pay for the goods and services they
> > receive, no matter which individual or agency
> > provides them. It may be that we can evolve to the
> > point where all that's needed by any person can be
> > produced entirely without labor as an input. In
> that
> > case, money might not be necessary. Until then?
> > >1.LEGAL ACCESS TO FINANCIAL POWER, AND
> > >DECENTRALISATION.
> > >
> > >There are three types of organizations that could
> > benefit from the responsible creation of new
> > unearned money. They are:-
> > >
> > >i) National Democratic Governments: Instead of
> > raising direct, and indirect taxes AN INDEPENDANT
> > PUBLIC AUTHORITY, OR EVEN SOME KIND OF A PRIVATE
> > FINANCIAL INSTITUTION KNOWN AS A CENTRAL TREASURY
> > BANK would have powers to create new unearned
> money
> > in a measured way.
> > 
> > If I remember, I'll take the liberty of
> capitalizing
> 
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