[GJM] World Wide Injustice At The Local Level of Government

Thomas Greco -- CIRC2 circ2 at mindspring.com
Fri Jul 21 10:31:31 MDT 2006


I've been monitoring these dialogs for some time but have not been inclined to respond. I do not wish to get entangled in religious arguments, but here is my two cents worth, which is an item I just posted to my blog Tom's News and Views, http://tomazgreco.wordpress.com/.

"It was more than thirty years ago that I embarked upon a journey to discover the root causes of the world's problems. I think I've made some progress in that. There are so many things that separate us from one another, from God, and from nature.

I think John Lennon was inspired when he wrote the lyrics to the song Imagine. Along those lines it occurs to me that much of the problem derives from our being overly identified with inherited mindsets. Each of us is born into and indoctrinated in a particular nation, culture and religion, all of which shape and color, and even distort our perceptions of God and reality. But the true nature of God is revealed from within, not from without. The true Self, or Divine Self, cannot be realized by following ANY particular set of rules, rituals, and formulas.

I think the current wave of "fundamentalism" represents a desperate search for answers about how to live, how to avoid divine punishment, and how to guarantee one's reward in some imagined afterlife beyond death. While the various "wisdom books" can be helpful in affirming ongoing revelation, they are no substitute for it and should not be worshiped as icons."The way" cannot be contained in ANY book."

Let's try to be a little less doctrinaire and rigid and more tolerant.

Tom

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Muhammad Mukhtar Alam 
  To: Discussion Forum for Global Justice 
  Cc: Arshi Aftab ; Arshad Aftab 
  Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 12:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [GJM] World Wide Injustice At The Local Level of Government


  Dear Wes, 

  You have rightly pointed that US government needs to correct the social policy with reference to your wellargued and empirically supported propositions. I would like to however note the following for the some positions of Norman Kurland..

  We have problems due to lack of piety in many of the leaders..The issue of 'terrorism",insurgency, revolutions needs to be also addressed through ensuring distributive justice at least for the renewable resource based livelihoods..Your proposal I believe emanate from the communications of the Allah/God..and there is a need to generate a consensus for that. I have seen the commands for zakat ,sadaqa in Qura-n.I donnot think inclusion of a mere declaration of war on terrorism is sufficience for justice unless there is substantial progress in addressing the issues of social and ecological justice. G-8 meeting postponed the discussion on climate change. There is no reference for deceleration in the consumption of nonrenewable resource based services and utilities.

  ARP, I beleive ought to get more concerned with the peoples issue and address them. 

  We have this interesting convergence and I would like to incoporate the learnings..Organised religion can not be denouced without seeking the specific reformation..I have concluded for monotheistic framework for global unity..We need to focus on this rather than advancing 'nationalist' dreams that is a part of the problem as the seperation of 'church' and politics is responsible for lots of disease in polity . I would like see the "church' as a group of men and women who communicate the words of Allah..Muslims globally are part of the groups communicating for the word of Allah for temporal and eternal wellbeing. We have a world where men and women supporting the culture of prayer are in conflict with atheistic exhibitionist consumption ,behaviour and production pattern that is ecologically hostile..

  I guess , I am making some sense..Norm, I would your formulations to be more pious and more wellinformed with reference to the communications of the words of Allah/God//..///


  With best regards


  Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam


  uno.com wrote:
    Dear Norman Kurland,

    This note will acknowledge your prominent role in 
    the quest for universal justice and ask for your help 
    to integrate my simple contribution to the quest.

    Your recent responses to e-mails from Muhammad 
    Mukhtar Alam, Mr. Kaplan of  the Washington Post, 
    Ms. Premilla Dixit, Rodney Shakespeare, and Robert 
    Searle were inspiring, comprehensive, and sincerely 
    welcomed by this war weary world citizen.  My thanks 
    also to Dr. Robert D. Crane for his timely presentation 
    of your 1978 position paper, "The Abraham Federation" 
    A New Framework for Peace in the Middle East,   
    http://www.cesj.org/homestead/strategies/regional-global/abrahamfederation-nk.html, and for reminding 
    me of the universal premises on which you more 
    recently founded "The American Revolutionary Party," http://www.americanrevolutionaryparty.us/partyplatform.htm, 
    and its network of supportive think-tanks. 

    Last Sep. 2005 you responded to my note on "The 
    Biology Experiment On US Citizens," by inviting my 
    attention to two of your latest presentations.  You 
    wrote in part: 

    "Here's a power point presentation of my testimony 
    before the President's Advisory Panel on Tax Reform.  http://www.cesj.org/homestead/reforms/tax/kurland_052005.pdf.  
    And here's our Katrina Plan for Regional Rebirth that 
    is now circulating in activist circles. http://www.cesj.org/homestead/strategies/regional-global/katrinaplan050907.html

    Is there anything in either of these two pieces that 
    you would object to?"
    ~~~~~~ End excerpt from 14/09/05 response ~~~~~~

    Then, and now after you have enriched your web site 
    at http://www.cesj.org with another year's labor of 
    love for justice, there is nothing in your web site that 
    i could object to.  Neither do I find anything to object 
    to in Stephen Zarlenga's proposals for monetary reform, 
    in John Bunzl's development of a Simultaneous Policy 
    to drive elected politicians towards promoting the 
    general welfare of their constituents, nor in any of 
    the other multitude of web sites which claim to 
    promote "liberty and justice for all."  

    What I need you to do, Norman, is to help me learn 
    why all of these scholarly authors have remained 
    either oblivious of, or in complete denial of, the one simple defect in public policy which has caused the 
    failure of all US "nation building" initiatives; such as reconstruction" 1865, "Perestroika in Cuba" 1899, 
    "Perestroika in Haiti" 1915, the "New Deal" 1932, 
    the "War On Poverty" 1964, "Health Care Reform" 
    1994, Afghanistan 2001, and Iraq 2003 to date. 

    That simple defect, of course, is the failure of US 
    local governments, or any other local governments, 
    to capitalize the expense of subsistence as adequately 
    as they capitalized the expense of education for that 
    20% of the population which is in development.  The 
    effect of that failure at the local government level is 
    to bring every parenting household into the labor 
    market with "increasing returns to scale," thereby 
    making a stable and efficient operation of the labor 
    market impossible.

    At today's prices, subsistence is about $5,000/year
    and 1-12 public education is $6,500/year per dependent. 
    So the US economy is tilted against parenting families 
    in favor of the rest of the work force by about 3% of 
    GDP, about the amount of the DOD budget.  Parents 
    proudly and instinctively pay this $5,000/year/child 
    "tax."  But the unexpected consequence of This Wrong 
    Policy (TWP) is a 3% of GDP shortage of purchasing 
    power among young parenting families; a 3% of GDP 
    excess of purchasing power among the rest of the 
    population; destructive competition; and growth 
    without a natural limit of money, debt, waste, and 
    inflation.  
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Insert Fig 10c.gif ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ End Fig 10c.gif ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    This Wrong Policy (TWP) has its determined defenders 
    however, because it expands the market for debt, 
    increases unemployment to hold down wages, and 
    enlarges the welfare class to provide employment 
    for social scientists.  A few nations, and each of the 
    ten corporations I worked for had rejected TWP and 
    adopted The Optimum Policy (TOP) by the time I 
    retired in 1985; but they each regarded TOP as their 
    proprietary secret, and terminated the employment 
    of any economist, engineer, lawyer,  or politician 
    who cared enough to bring this subject into the 
    public debate. 

    Returning now, Norman, to the purpose of this note. 
    The "core values" of your interfaith Center for 
    Economic and Social Justice (www.cesj.org) are 
    splendid.  They capture the  "Principles of Social 
    Reconstruction" enumerated by Bertrand Russell 
    in his 1915 book of that title, and likewise the 
    principles invoked by the Founding Fathers in 
    their "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God," 
    as understood by the best minds of a thirty 
    centuries old agrarian society before the onset of 
    industrialization.  Recall that Franklin Jefferson, 
    and Paine had no more experience with industry 
    than Abraham and Melchizedek, but the obligation 
    of local government to its citizens remained 
    unchanged through the ages from Genesis to date.

    You write: "We, American Revolutionaries of the 21st 
    Century, stand for the preservation of the following 
    social guidelines: 

        1,  Promote Harmony in the Relationships Between 
    the Moral, Religious and Political Orders 
        2,  Strengthen the Family as the Basic Social 
    Institution of Society 
        3,  Favor a Culture of Life over a Culture of Death 
       4,   Fund and Encourage Educational Choice and 
    Responsibility of Parents 
       5,  Support Private Universal Health Insurance and 
    Reduce Costs of Funding New Medical Advances 
       6,   Discourage Judicial Activism that Threatens a 
    Just Constitutional Order
      7,  Promote Economic and Social Justice through 
    the Just Third Way 
     8,  End Wage and Welfare Slavery through Justice-
    Based Incomes for All 
       9,   Expand Capital Ownership through Capital Homesteading  
     10,   Lift Barriers to Universal Access to Money 
    Power and Broad-Based Ownership of Newly-
    Created Capital Assets 
      11,  Create a Radically More Simple and Just 
    Tax System 
     12,   Avoid Concentrations in Wealth Transfers 
    from One Generation to the Next 
     13,  Offer More Creative and Just Approaches to Global Conflict
    Resolution 
    14,   Lead the World in Restoring A Fixed and More Just Global Standard for Foreign Currency Exchange Rates 
    to Avoid Wage Arbitrage 
    15,  Expand Global Markets for Commercial Uses of 
    Advanced U.S. Technologies 
    16,   Help Accelerate Third World Development and 
    Debt Relief 
    17,  Address Global Warming and Stewardship of the 
    Global Environment 
    18,  Transform the United Nations and Global Politics 
    to Spread Economic Democracy as a Pre-Condition for 
    Spreading Political Democracy Globally 
    19,  Improve National Security by Winning the War on 
    Global Terrorism 
    20,  Change TWP to TOP in the USA first, then the 
    rest of the world.

    What is the obstacle, Norman, to enlisting public 
    opinion to correct the simple defect which has, 
    for over a century, placed these nineteen "social 
    guidelines" at risk?  Why not add TOP and make 
    it an even twenty.

    Kind regards,

    Wes Burt
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                     TOP and TWP are cognoscible on
                    Dr. W. Curtiss Priest's web site at:
           <http://www.epie.org/cyber-soc/default.htm>
                 Where do you stand on the continuum 
            between TOP and TWP (The Wrong Policy)?

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