[GJM] BBC E-mail: India to assist debt-hit farmers

ram prasad tnordramprasad at yahoo.co.in
Sat Jul 15 09:59:45 MDT 2006


Dear Mr Kurland,

The formula we are using and the work you have asked
us to read do not contradict each other.

We are considering any factor as a complex factor
comprising the real part and its dialectical opposite 
as the imaginary part.  Science is the strength of the
real part and science has to be come strength of the
imaginary part.

In the case of development the real part is the
reality around us.  The imaginary part does not exist
at present.  Dhumakot/Sangliya experiment is the first
attempt.  Its experience will will make us to identify
parameters and dimensions of the iDevelopment.
eDevelopment has a motive force of refining the
process of industrial development.  

Future has no real or imaginary parts today.  We know
that eDevelopment is active and alive.  It will lead
to some change in the near future.  That change will
make us to proceed in iDirection.  This is precisely
what Dhumakot/Sangliya experiment will do.

Ram Prasad  
--- Norman Kurland <thirdway at cesj.org> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Ram Prasad,
> 
> Here's what I posted on this discussion forum on
> 6/27/06:
> 
>     Dear Ram Prasad,
> 
>     In your opinion, would the principles of
> economic and social justice
>     and the logical framework of binary economics
> that would be applied
>     in healing the world through the Just Third Way
> paradigm be
>     "eFuture" or "iFuture" from the perspective of
> the Dhumakot/Sangliya
>     project?  (See
> http://www.globaljusticemovement.org/thirdway.htm
> and
>     http://www.globaljusticemovement.org/money.htm.)
>  I'm seeking more
>     clarity on the meaning of these terms.
> 
>     Norm Kurland
>     Center for Economic and Social Justice
> 
> www.cesj.org
> 
> 
> ram prasad wrote:
> 
> >Dear Mr Searle,
> >
> >I do not seem to recall the e-mail from Norman
> >Kurland.  But I received an e-mail from
> >wesburt at juno.com  which is reproduced below:
> >     
> >Dear Ram Prasad,
> >
> >My thanks to Robert Searle for posting your 
> >message, forwarded below, to Discussion Forum 
> >for Global Justice.  Your insightful exposition 
> >of the total indifference to the requirements for
> >iDevelopment, of 
> >folks
> >who promote eDevelopment;
> >is the best statement of the problem I have seen 
> >in recent years on the Internet.  I had begun to 
> >believe that the topic was taboo in the US, and 
> >not mentioned in the media or in the literature, so
> 
> >I am pleased to hear it being discussed in India.  
> >
> >If indifference is the correct word for the
> attitude 
> >of corporate and government officials who are 
> >driving the process of globalization, they must be
> >forgiven for the 
> >harm
> >they do, and taught how to 
> >optimize the whole socioeconomic system and 
> >keep the whole system efficient and sustainable.
> >
> >My own inquiry into the common practice of 
> >under funding iDevelopment, is summarized 
> >on the attached file; Fig12m.gif.  I have taken 
> >the liberty of adding your name and your two 
> >dialectically opposite forms of development, in 
> >the only space remaining on Fig12.  I hope you 
> >find it acceptable and helpful.  We need to 
> >restore the equal sign between iDevelopment 
> >and eDevelopment in every nation to stabilize 
> >the global economy in a sustainable mode.
> >
> >The essential point of the chart is to show how 
> >long eDevelopment has been promoted, and by 
> >whom, at the expense of iDevelopment.  In my 
> >view, the Founding Fathers of the US put the 
> >emphasis on iDevelopment for an agrarian society 
> >from 1789 through 1898.  From 1898 to date, it has 
> >been eDevelopment for an industrial society all 
> >the way, so the US has been losing its moral high-
> >ground for more than a century.   
> >
> >Kindly comment,
> >
> >Wes Burt
> >
> >
> >--- robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Dear Ram Prasad,
> >>
> >>         With respect your formula is somewhat
> >>vague.
> >>I recall Norman Kurland asked you to elaborate
> more
> >>about it, or something very similiar. I do not
> think
> >>you replied yet, I may be wrong here.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>R.Searle (a little mystified).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--- ram prasad <tnordramprasad at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Dear Mr Searle,
> >>>
> >>>Does the social complexity formula
> >>>
> >>>Business = eBusiness + iBusiness
> >>>
> >>>Where eBusiness is the business forced on the
> >>>humanity
> >>>by industrial world and iBusiness is its
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>dialectical
> >>    
> >>
> >>>opposite (whatever it may mean at this stage)
> >>>
> >>>elaborates your point?
> >>>
> >>>The world has to go by eBusiness whether one
> likes
> >>>or
> >>>not.  But life is not the part of eBusiness and
> it
> >>>reacts. The reaction may be termed as iBusiness. 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>It
> >>    
> >>
> >>>is terrorism today but it can be refined by
> >>>introducing science.
> >>>
> >>>Dhumakot/Sangliya project in the laboratory of
> >>>Uttaranchal is developing science of iBusiness. 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>The
> >>    
> >>
> >>>results are being reported in hand written daily
> >>>Gumod
> >>>Parikrama which is being presented as columns in
> >>>Hindi
> >>>weeklies Pyara Uttarakhand and Parvatiya Times.
> >>>
> >>>Ram Prasad
> >>>--- robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>Dear Ashok,
> >>>>
> >>>>         I am sure there is a strong element of
> >>>>truth
> >>>>in what you say. However, I think sometimes we
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>can
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>get
> >>>>too cynical for our own good. However, the
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>interest
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>free loans concerned are a step in the right
> >>>>direction
> >>>>even though they probably originate from the
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>World
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>Bank ofcourse.
> >>>>
> >>>>Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>R.Searle
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--- ~Ashok <lama1126in at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>Dear Robert Searle:
> >>>>>   
> 
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