[GJM] BBC E-mail: India to assist debt-hit farmers
robert searle
dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jul 13 01:34:09 MDT 2006
Dear Ram Prasad,
I am glad we now have greater clarification
concerning your formula.
R.Searle
--- ram prasad <tnordramprasad at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Dear Mr Searle,
>
> I do not seem to recall the e-mail from Norman
> Kurland. But I received an e-mail from
> wesburt at juno.com which is reproduced below:
>
> Dear Ram Prasad,
>
> My thanks to Robert Searle for posting your
> message, forwarded below, to Discussion Forum
> for Global Justice. Your insightful exposition
> of the total indifference to the requirements for
> iDevelopment, of
> folks
> who promote eDevelopment;
> is the best statement of the problem I have seen
> in recent years on the Internet. I had begun to
> believe that the topic was taboo in the US, and
> not mentioned in the media or in the literature, so
> I am pleased to hear it being discussed in India.
>
> If indifference is the correct word for the attitude
>
> of corporate and government officials who are
> driving the process of globalization, they must be
> forgiven for the
> harm
> they do, and taught how to
> optimize the whole socioeconomic system and
> keep the whole system efficient and sustainable.
>
> My own inquiry into the common practice of
> under funding iDevelopment, is summarized
> on the attached file; Fig12m.gif. I have taken
> the liberty of adding your name and your two
> dialectically opposite forms of development, in
> the only space remaining on Fig12. I hope you
> find it acceptable and helpful. We need to
> restore the equal sign between iDevelopment
> and eDevelopment in every nation to stabilize
> the global economy in a sustainable mode.
>
> The essential point of the chart is to show how
> long eDevelopment has been promoted, and by
> whom, at the expense of iDevelopment. In my
> view, the Founding Fathers of the US put the
> emphasis on iDevelopment for an agrarian society
> from 1789 through 1898. From 1898 to date, it has
> been eDevelopment for an industrial society all
> the way, so the US has been losing its moral high-
> ground for more than a century.
>
> Kindly comment,
>
> Wes Burt
>
>
> --- robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Dear Ram Prasad,
> >
> > With respect your formula is somewhat
> > vague.
> > I recall Norman Kurland asked you to elaborate
> more
> > about it, or something very similiar. I do not
> think
> > you replied yet, I may be wrong here.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > R.Searle (a little mystified).
> >
> >
> >
> > --- ram prasad <tnordramprasad at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Mr Searle,
> > >
> > > Does the social complexity formula
> > >
> > > Business = eBusiness + iBusiness
> > >
> > > Where eBusiness is the business forced on the
> > > humanity
> > > by industrial world and iBusiness is its
> > dialectical
> > > opposite (whatever it may mean at this stage)
> > >
> > > elaborates your point?
> > >
> > > The world has to go by eBusiness whether one
> likes
> > > or
> > > not. But life is not the part of eBusiness and
> it
> > > reacts. The reaction may be termed as iBusiness.
>
> > It
> > > is terrorism today but it can be refined by
> > > introducing science.
> > >
> > > Dhumakot/Sangliya project in the laboratory of
> > > Uttaranchal is developing science of iBusiness.
> > The
> > > results are being reported in hand written daily
> > > Gumod
> > > Parikrama which is being presented as columns in
> > > Hindi
> > > weeklies Pyara Uttarakhand and Parvatiya Times.
> > >
> > > Ram Prasad
> > > --- robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Ashok,
> > > >
> > > > I am sure there is a strong element
> of
> > > > truth
> > > > in what you say. However, I think sometimes we
> > can
> > > > get
> > > > too cynical for our own good. However, the
> > > interest
> > > > free loans concerned are a step in the right
> > > > direction
> > > > even though they probably originate from the
> > World
> > > > Bank ofcourse.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > R.Searle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- ~Ashok <lama1126in at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Robert Searle:
> > > > >
> > > > > The reported act of assisting the farmers
> is
> > > > more
> > > > > out of political
> > > > > compulsions rather than showing a genuine
> > > > > redressal of economically
> > > > > starved millions of farmers in many parts
> of
> > > > > India. Wrong systems have
> > > > > comprehensively deprived the people of a
> > > better
> > > > > life and farmers in
> > > > > tens of thousands have committed suicide
> > > during
> > > > > past three years on
> > > > > account of wrong government policies that
> > are
> > > > also
> > > > > related to allowing
> > > > > free hand to Corporate greed by
> governments.
> > > > > Situation of poverty level
> > > > > with hapless and resource prone
> communities
> > is
> > > > far
> > > > > grimer than what is
> > > > > reported and much much needs to be done
> > > > > immediately. Sometimes,
> > > > > lip service statements that stem out of
> > > > political
> > > > > pressures and or other
> > > > > compulsions are not actually implemented
> or
> > > > relief
> > > > > comes after a long
> > > > > bureaucratic delay when enough damage is
> > > already
> > > > > done.
> > > > >
> > > > > Instead of assisting farmers on peace meal
> > > > > basis,Government must
> > > > > however find the reasons of such
> incidences
> > > and
> > > > > stop the recurrence
> > > > > once and for all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Loveful regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Ashok
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert Searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > Robert Searle saw this story on the BBC
> News
> > > > > website and thought you
> > > > > should see it.
> > > > >
> > > > > ** Message **
> > > > > More info on the present situation in India.
> I
>
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