[GJM] BBC E-mail: India to assist debt-hit farmers
Norman Kurland
thirdway at cesj.org
Wed Jul 12 16:57:01 MDT 2006
Dear Mr. Ram Prasad,
Here's what I posted on this discussion forum on 6/27/06:
Dear Ram Prasad,
In your opinion, would the principles of economic and social justice
and the logical framework of binary economics that would be applied
in healing the world through the Just Third Way paradigm be
"eFuture" or "iFuture" from the perspective of the Dhumakot/Sangliya
project? (See http://www.globaljusticemovement.org/thirdway.htm and
http://www.globaljusticemovement.org/money.htm.) I'm seeking more
clarity on the meaning of these terms.
Norm Kurland
Center for Economic and Social Justice
www.cesj.org
ram prasad wrote:
>Dear Mr Searle,
>
>I do not seem to recall the e-mail from Norman
>Kurland. But I received an e-mail from
>wesburt at juno.com which is reproduced below:
>
>Dear Ram Prasad,
>
>My thanks to Robert Searle for posting your
>message, forwarded below, to Discussion Forum
>for Global Justice. Your insightful exposition
>of the total indifference to the requirements for
>iDevelopment, of
>folks
>who promote eDevelopment;
>is the best statement of the problem I have seen
>in recent years on the Internet. I had begun to
>believe that the topic was taboo in the US, and
>not mentioned in the media or in the literature, so
>I am pleased to hear it being discussed in India.
>
>If indifference is the correct word for the attitude
>of corporate and government officials who are
>driving the process of globalization, they must be
>forgiven for the
>harm
>they do, and taught how to
>optimize the whole socioeconomic system and
>keep the whole system efficient and sustainable.
>
>My own inquiry into the common practice of
>under funding iDevelopment, is summarized
>on the attached file; Fig12m.gif. I have taken
>the liberty of adding your name and your two
>dialectically opposite forms of development, in
>the only space remaining on Fig12. I hope you
>find it acceptable and helpful. We need to
>restore the equal sign between iDevelopment
>and eDevelopment in every nation to stabilize
>the global economy in a sustainable mode.
>
>The essential point of the chart is to show how
>long eDevelopment has been promoted, and by
>whom, at the expense of iDevelopment. In my
>view, the Founding Fathers of the US put the
>emphasis on iDevelopment for an agrarian society
>from 1789 through 1898. From 1898 to date, it has
>been eDevelopment for an industrial society all
>the way, so the US has been losing its moral high-
>ground for more than a century.
>
>Kindly comment,
>
>Wes Burt
>
>
>--- robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Dear Ram Prasad,
>>
>> With respect your formula is somewhat
>>vague.
>>I recall Norman Kurland asked you to elaborate more
>>about it, or something very similiar. I do not think
>>you replied yet, I may be wrong here.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>R.Searle (a little mystified).
>>
>>
>>
>>--- ram prasad <tnordramprasad at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Dear Mr Searle,
>>>
>>>Does the social complexity formula
>>>
>>>Business = eBusiness + iBusiness
>>>
>>>Where eBusiness is the business forced on the
>>>humanity
>>>by industrial world and iBusiness is its
>>>
>>>
>>dialectical
>>
>>
>>>opposite (whatever it may mean at this stage)
>>>
>>>elaborates your point?
>>>
>>>The world has to go by eBusiness whether one likes
>>>or
>>>not. But life is not the part of eBusiness and it
>>>reacts. The reaction may be termed as iBusiness.
>>>
>>>
>>It
>>
>>
>>>is terrorism today but it can be refined by
>>>introducing science.
>>>
>>>Dhumakot/Sangliya project in the laboratory of
>>>Uttaranchal is developing science of iBusiness.
>>>
>>>
>>The
>>
>>
>>>results are being reported in hand written daily
>>>Gumod
>>>Parikrama which is being presented as columns in
>>>Hindi
>>>weeklies Pyara Uttarakhand and Parvatiya Times.
>>>
>>>Ram Prasad
>>>--- robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dear Ashok,
>>>>
>>>> I am sure there is a strong element of
>>>>truth
>>>>in what you say. However, I think sometimes we
>>>>
>>>>
>>can
>>
>>
>>>>get
>>>>too cynical for our own good. However, the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>interest
>>>
>>>
>>>>free loans concerned are a step in the right
>>>>direction
>>>>even though they probably originate from the
>>>>
>>>>
>>World
>>
>>
>>>>Bank ofcourse.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>R.Searle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- ~Ashok <lama1126in at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Dear Robert Searle:
>>>>>
>>>>> The reported act of assisting the farmers is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>more
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>out of political
>>>>> compulsions rather than showing a genuine
>>>>>redressal of economically
>>>>> starved millions of farmers in many parts of
>>>>>India. Wrong systems have
>>>>> comprehensively deprived the people of a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>better
>>>
>>>
>>>>>life and farmers in
>>>>> tens of thousands have committed suicide
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>during
>>>
>>>
>>>>>past three years on
>>>>> account of wrong government policies that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>are
>>
>>
>>>>also
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>related to allowing
>>>>> free hand to Corporate greed by governments.
>>>>>Situation of poverty level
>>>>> with hapless and resource prone communities
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>is
>>
>>
>>>>far
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>grimer than what is
>>>>> reported and much much needs to be done
>>>>>immediately. Sometimes,
>>>>> lip service statements that stem out of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>political
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>pressures and or other
>>>>> compulsions are not actually implemented or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>relief
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>comes after a long
>>>>> bureaucratic delay when enough damage is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>already
>>>
>>>
>>>>>done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of assisting farmers on peace meal
>>>>>basis,Government must
>>>>> however find the reasons of such incidences
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>>>stop the recurrence
>>>>> once and for all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Loveful regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Ashok
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Robert Searle saw this story on the BBC News
>>>>>website and thought you
>>>>>should see it.
>>>>>
>>>>>** Message **
>>>>>More info on the present situation in India. I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>would
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>recommend people if they are interested to do
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>a
>>
>>
>>>>word
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>search using something like this ...interest
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>free
>>>
>>>
>>>>>loans, asia, India, government etc...and it is
>>>>>amazing what seems to be going on in the east.
>>>>>
>>>>>I may send more data like the one sent here.
>>>>>
>>>>>** India to assist debt-hit farmers **
>>>>>Indian PM Manmohan Singh vows to help cotton
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>farmers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>facing crisis in western Maharashtra state.
>>>>><
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/5131838.stm
>
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