[GJM] (Premilla)Islamic Consciousness for transforming consumption pattern addressing ecolgical challenges

Richard D. Foley rerailer at earthlink.net
Mon Aug 28 14:39:36 MDT 2006


Dear Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam,

I have been observing the dialog on these subjects for quite some time 
now.  Perhaps, I and others have been making an inappropriate assumption 
regarding your point on praying five times a day.  Is it your 
recommendation that we pray, meditate, take a short period of time to 
calm and clear our thoughts in a pattern of doing so five times through 
out our day because you have come to the conclusion that a daily pattern 
of doing so is more beneficial than fewer times a day, and that more 
than five times doesn't appear to add any significant incremental benefit?

I apologize for the poorly written question.

Richard D. Foley
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Muhammad Mukhtar Alam wrote:

> Dear Premilla,
>  
> Greetings for peace,
>  
> I would like to thank you for the response and it is quite nice..We 
> have ecological emergencies...there is a need to respond in all 
> language..adoption of prayer /salat/yoga 5 times a day is important 
> for transforming cosnumption pattern..This we can see through 
> imagining the transformations ..I am writing for this based on my 
> academic exploration.. I am sure may would not get the opportunity of 
> reading across the religions /theories/movements ...as much as I have 
> ..while reaerching for the concept of World Citizenship
>  
> I would like to invite you to have a look at the conceptual 
> organisation where I have listed the concepts with reference to the 
> narratives. moral ethical universes..We need a protocol collectively 
> for global abidance..we need to ensure ecological safety..I have deep 
> regard to all the communications..but then we need one governance 
> protocol for preventing the globalisation of ecologically hostile 
> development paradigm..that accepts the following
>  
>
>    1. usurious finace system
>    2. prevention of faith based communication in the name of defending
>       'secular' and lassex fair space
>    3. adultery
>    4. exhibitionism
>    5. eclogical hostile leisure use pattern with nightlife all over
>       the world containing gambling ,prostituion,fashion show.dancing
>       halls, bars
>   6.
>
> We can see throgh mental ecological audit of the consumption 
> patterns..prayers /salat are ones that provide us connectedness with 
> eternity..and we need that for more and more men and women globally..
>  
> we can just communicate..guidance is from Allah..
>  
> Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
>
>   1.
>
>
>
>       premilla dixit <prem.dixit at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>     Dear Dr. Mukhtar Alam,
>
>     Would you, could you, DEMAND of /COMMAND the people of the world
>     to pray 5 times a day within the parameters of Islam, Hinduism,
>     Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Jainism, Zoroastrianism, Sikhism,
>     Shintoism, Taoism, Confucianism, Yoruba, Ewe, Bokongo, Bahai,
>     Rastafarian, Yazidi -- the list goes into hundreds of religious,
>     spiritual belief systems in the human world, not forgetting the
>     new ones that emerge like Falun Gong ?  
>
>     Is not your stated loving concern for the state of
>     human/ecological affairs defeated by your rigid prescription for
>     prayer drawing on Islam as the sole source of divine authority,
>      which seems to indicate an incapacity for empathy with your
>     fellow human intelligences and their inherent autonomy, inviolable
>     personal sovereignty, and the Rule of law established inalienable
>     human right to private communion with the divine?
>
>     Rigidity of all kinds and religious rigidity in particular has
>     been an instrument of state to assert the very oppressions of
>     autocratic rule that are at the root of most disruptions of
>     human/nature synergy. Using the whip of religion, despots have
>     ruled and are ruling human destiny with the grave consequences we
>     face today.  
>
>     Those of us who see the possibility of human life embedded in the
>     synergistic intelligence of creation cannot be prescriptive and
>     authoritarian, when what is required of us is to be empathetic,
>     receptive, creative, dynamic and nurturing of profound diversity.   
>
>     All power to you as you get there praying five times a day; all
>     power to me as I get there in a willed state of constant
>     prayerfulness; all power to all who get there informed by a
>     scientific-ethical humanism; all power to all who get there as
>     convinced atheists; indeed, all power to all of us to get there
>     together in a shared community of enlightened humane living with
>     all life, and with each others private approaches to "prayer",
>     even as we speak.
>
>     Sincerely,
>     Premilla Diixt
>
>      
>
>        
>
>
>
>     On 8/26/06 1:27 AM, "Muhammad Mukhtar Alam"
>     <mukhtaralam2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>         Dear Robert,
>           
>          
>           
>         I have presented the concerns for the an operational programme
>         for faith groups.I beleive for Muslims..these terms have only
>         information value and that also emanating from men and women
>         who have no regards to the communications of Allah..in these
>         matters..
>           
>          
>           
>         Having said so, I do not intend to dismiss the work of
>         nanotechnologists..I am sure there are formulations on
>         nanodynamics..all that is in motion has an explainations and
>         all that is static has an explaination.
>           
>          
>           
>         For GJM, I think the key concerns are with reference to
>         hurdles that are coming in the way for getting the
>         commonagreed transformation that is in conformity with the
>         communications of Allah..The conclusions have been also
>         reached through secular analysis..I would like Marguerite to
>         concentrate on these hurdles...
>           
>          
>           
>         Hololdynamic consciousness, nano/micro/macro dynamic
>         consciousness are just description for different span of
>         attention...That is possible with the recitation and reading
>         from the holy Book .I read Qur'an daily..I have gone through
>         the work of Dana Zohar..and I come across several men and
>         women who wish to follow some men and women who start with
>         subverting the communications of Allah// and then start
>         theorising on issues that are well explained..Allah says the
>         best knowledge is that of Quran in the matters that are dealth
>         with clearly...
>           
>          
>           
>         Marguerite, please try the Islamic consciousness with prayer
>         to Allah..I would like to request you to seek a moratorarium
>         for a while..This is important for dealing with Billions of
>         men and women who beleive in the word of Allah..People you
>         cite may be relevant only for those who are searching for
>         knowledge from atheists who are themselves wandering ..and
>         they can not ever have a consensus in atheistic and
>         polytheistic narrative..
>           
>          
>           
>         Adopt prayer 5 times a day now
>          
>         donate for poor
>          
>         believe in the oneness of God,humanity
>          
>         judge with the criterion of Allah..the Creator of all universes
>          
>          
>           
>         Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
>           
>         http://muhammad_mukhtar_alam.tigblog.org
>         <http://muhammad_mukhtar_alam.tigblog.org/>
>           
>         Delhi
>           
>          
>           
>          
>           
>
>
>         robert searle <dharao4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>           
>
>             Dear Marguerite,
>
>             Your draft seemed interesting but I think a
>             short summary of Holodynamics would be far more useful
>             than another book. No doubt you have come across
>             wikipedia, and there is no entry to the subject
>             concerned as far as I can see. Why not write one?
>
>             One of the most difficult things in writing is trying
>             to produce something in the least number of words, and
>             yet, fully explain at the same time any subject
>             CONCISELY, AND CLEARLY. In other words, a Wiki entry
>             ofcourse would be "holistic", and informative with the
>             most important aspects of Holodynamics that would take
>             little or no time to UNDERSTAND.
>
>             Most people are not really interested or have the
>             time ofcourse. But perhaps they would be if you
>             reduced your comprehension of Holodynamics (including
>             a simple clear explanation of all key terms) to small
>             "bits" of vital data..... otherwise just rambling
>             on...and on....and on.. and on without REALLY
>             explaining the subject as a whole is not going to
>             take anyone far..
>
>             Do the right thing, and present a Wiki like entry
>             here, and at Wiki...but it may prove harder than you
>             think.I know I have been there myself!! It can be
>             difficult not to ramble on...and on...and on......
>
>             R.Searle
>
>
>
>
>
>             --- Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
>             wrote:
>
>> Dear Marguerite ,
>>
>> I would like to request you to consider the
>> following:
>>
>>
>> Impact of prayer 5 times a day on the development
>> of the' consciousness' that ensure social equity and
>> ecological safety
>> Assessement of the communities of practice and
>> the ecological implications
>> ecological footprints for different communities
>> of practice
>> atheistic socio-cultural and political
>> narratives/visions and ecological implications with
>> reference to both atheistic communism and atheistic
>> neo-liberalism
>> Polytheistic practices and social and ecological
>> implications
>> Monotheistic practices and implications for
>> social equity, personal integrity and ecological
>> safety..
>> A programme for change with reference to all the
>> above as different communities require different
>> inputs..we have Muslims, atheists, Christians,
>> Budhists, Hindus,Sikhs,Jains, Zorastrians, Bon and
>> other religious groups
>> Please consider reading the conceptual
>> organisation posted in the year 2001 at
>> http://muhammad_mukhtar_alam.tigblog.org
>             <http://muhammad_mukhtar_alam.tigblog.org/>
>>
>> With best wishes and regards
>>
>>
>> Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
>>
>> marguerite hampton wrote:
>>
>> Dear Friends and Associates,
>>
>> As promised in previous discussion with Robert
>> Searle, I am
>> publishing for the benefit of this list and a few
>> other people,
>> mainly the researchers whose work I am quoting, a
>> draft portion of
>> The Sacred Quest for the Biology of Human
>> Consciousness.
>>
>> I have chosen this particular section in hopes of
>> engendering
>> greater understanding as to why, as both
>> individuals and cultures,
>> we see things so differently. And, to bring about
>> greater awareness
>> as to how we may overcome this through greater
>> understanding
>> as to what reality is, and how we can change our
>> state of
>> consciousness, both as individuals and as a
>> collective society .
>>
>> Since this is Draft No. 1 and will go through
>> several revisions, it
>> will be greatly expanded in its final form.
>> Therefore, I do request
>> that this version not be circulated beyond this
>> list. However, questions,
>> comments, suggestions and any corrections are most
>> welcome.
>>
>> For many years I have been familiar with the work
>> of Dr.V. Vernon
>> Woolf; therefore, I use it profusely as a basis
>> upon which to build
>> further insights and expand knowledge into the
>> unlimited dimensions
>> of consciousness available. I try to accomplish
>> this by integrating
>> the knowledge of as many other researchers as I am
>> able to uncover
>> into the basis he has already built for a
>> Holodynamic or multidimensional
>> viewpoint.
>>
>> As Dr. Woolf, himself has stated, this is a new
>> field of science and
>> we are only at the beginning of our exploration --
>> but the view from
>> here is magnificent and promises to become more
>> so. Let us join
>> together in co-creating this magnificence in the
>> real world and bringing
>> peace and abundance to our earth.
>>
>> with love and in peace,
>> marguerite . .
>> . . .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> THE TRIUNE CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE HUMAN MIND.
>>
>> The Implicate Order of Consciousness
>>
>> Living as we do in between bigness and
>> smallness, age and time,
>> space and hyperspace, one of the first indications
>> of enfolded dimensions of
>> consciousness comes from quantum physics. David
>> Bohm was the first to
>> conceive of the concept that everything emerges in
>> life in an implicate
>> order. A study of quantum physics indicates that
>> life does emerge according
>> to a built-in order..
>>
>> The growth of plants can be simulated in a
>> computer according to the
>> mathematics of growth patterns and emerge almost
>> exactly as they do in
>> physical reality with molecular form, i.e., atoms,
>> protein strings and so
>> forth, according to a preconceived order. (Woolf
>> - 2004)
>>
>> In Holodynamics (1997) Woolf outlines
>> how this implicate order
>> "reflects itself as differing levels of
>> development for human beings". This
>> information arose from the science of
>> developmental psychology and from the
>> patterns evident in different schools of thought,
>> e.g., medicine, education,
>> religion and philosophy. Research tends to verify
>> that human development
>> goes through six basic stages as each person
>> develops stage by stage from
>> childhood into a mature adult person with a sense
>> of moral values and a
>> comprehensive, universal perspective.
>>
>> Stages of development appear to be
>> linked to brain wave activity.
>> As noted by cellular biologist, Dr. Bruce Lipton,
>> in The Biology of Belief,
>> researchers have noted that EEG activity in
>> children reveals, at every
>> development stage, the predominance of a specific
>> brain wave.
>>
>> "For instance, between birth and two years of age,
>> the human brain
>> predominantly operates at the lowest EEG
>> frequency, 0,5 to 4 cycles
>> per second (Hz) known as Delta waves. Though
>> Delta is their predominant
>> wave activity, babies can exhibit periodic short
>> bursts of higher EEG activity.
>> A child begins to spend more time at an EEG
>> activity characterized as
>> Theta (4 - 8 Hz) between two and six years of age.
>> Hypnotherapists drop
>> their patients' brain activity into Delta and
>> Theta because these low frequency
>> brain waves put them into a more suggestible,
>> programmable state.
>>
>> The brain is amazingly adaptable, and
>> capable of learning. It
>> can also learn to improve its own performance, if
>> only it is given cues
>> about what to change. By making information
>> available to the brain about how
>> it is functioning, and asking it to make
>> adjustments, it can do so. When the
>> mature brain is doing a good job of regulating
>> itself, and the person is
>> alert and attentive, the brain waves (EEG) show a
>> particular pattern.
>>
>> In fact, research by Dr. Valerie V.
>> Hunt, holding advanced degrees
>> in both physiobiology and psychology from Columbia
>> University, and having
>> taught in these fields at Columbia, UCLA, and the
>> U. of Omaha, has been the
>> first to reveal evidence of individual signatory
>> energy fields as measured in
>> specially- built rooms, using advanced
>> instrumentation to measure heretofore
>> subtle vibrational energies of the human body
>> considered to be unmeasurable.
>> These studies go far beyond what the EEG can
>> measure. .
>>
>> The "p-brane" analogy, as put forth by
>> Paul Townsend, can be helpful
>> when this model of the Six Stages of Development
>> is imposed over each stage
>>
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